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Reply #105 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:17pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Rubbish. There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed. Judge has done his job. "Life."

"An adult who is found guilty of murder must be sentenced to life imprisonment unless:

A life sentence would clearly be unjust in the circumstances; and
The person is unlikely to be a threat to the safety of the community when released (in which case the person must be imprisoned for 20 years)."

https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/wa/murder-homicide-offences/

Criminal law WA.

See that "unless"; that is the out. And that makes it a non-mandatory sentence.

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Reply #106 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:19pm

lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Rubbish. There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed. Judge has done his job. "Life."

"An adult who is found guilty of murder must be sentenced to life imprisonment unless:

A life sentence would clearly be unjust in the circumstances; and
The person is unlikely to be a threat to the safety of the community when released (in which case the person must be imprisoned for 20 years)."

https://www.gotocourt.com.au/criminal-law/wa/murder-homicide-offences/

Criminal law WA.

See that "unless"; that is the out. And that makes it a non-mandatory sentence.

Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.

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Reply #107 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:22pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:02pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 2:20pm:

If he got life he wouldn't get out.

In Queensland there is no "life sentence" for murder.

"Murder—also called homicide—is the wilful killing of a person with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm. However, it does not include dangerous driving causing death—the unlawful killing of a person as a result of dangerous or negligent driving without intent to kill. This is a different offence and has a maximum penalty of 14 years in prison.

If a person has a previous murder conviction or has been found guilty of multiple murders the minimum sentence is 30 years in prison.

If a person knowingly murders a police officer the minimum sentence is 30 25 years in prison."

https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and-police/types-of-crime/murder-attempted-murd...

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Rubbish. There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed. Judge has done his job. "Life."

Then, it is over to parole boards to determine if there should be an early release.

There is no parole if it's not said in the sentencing eg 25 years to life.

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Reply #108 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:23pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

Roger Roberson got life.

in reality they'll let him out on parole after 20 or 25 years , unless he's serving other sentences for corruption, extortion etc

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

Do you think Ivan molar will ever get out?

Milat is serving 7 life sentences. If he lives to 180 they might let him out Cheesy

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Reply #109 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:29pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:23pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

Roger Roberson got life.

in reality they'll let him out on parole after 20 or 25 years , unless he's serving other sentences for corruption, extortion etc

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

Do you think Ivan molar will ever get out?

Milat is serving 7 life sentences. If he lives to 180 they might let him out Cheesy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_in_sentencing

OK seems it's just nsw?

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18354 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #110 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:45pm Also Victoria, NSW, Tasmania and ACT have life imprisonment as a maximum. https://law.adelaide.edu.au/sites/default/files/docs/homicide_sentencing_backgro... Table1
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18354 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #111 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:49pm Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:19pm: Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee. But I started out in WA. But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either. No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".
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Reply #112 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:19pm:

Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.

But I started out in WA. Wink

But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either.

No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".

You can slip, you can slide, do your usual tapdance, and you get nowhere. I told you what the situation was in Qld.

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Rubbish. There are mandatory provisions that a 'life sentence' must be imposed. Judge has done his job. "Life."

Then, it is over to parole boards to determine if there should be an early release.

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Reply #113 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 5:19pm:

Jayzuz, the goal posts moved from Qld to WA. Well done, Lee.

But I started out in WA. Wink

But you didn't show I was wrong in Queensland either.

No one state was mentioned as to whether there was "life".

When I made my statement I thought it was Australia wise but it's definitely new where life is life. Therefore there is a true life sentence in Australia though it may be just in nsw.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18354 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #114 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:13pm Don't worry about the words. NSW has, according to the paper from a couple of posts ago, a maximum of life.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39010 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #115 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:13pm lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:13pm: Don't worry about the words. NSW has, according to the paper from a couple of posts ago, a maximum of life. So does Qld.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18354 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #116 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:19pm Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:13pm: So does Qld. No petal. According to the paper Queensland has a MANDATORY life sentence, You do understand the difference?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39010 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #117 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:20pm lee wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:19pm: Aussie wrote on Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:13pm: So does Qld. No petal. According to the paper Queensland has a MANDATORY life sentence, You do understand the difference? Far cough. If you cannot address me properly, I will not address you at all.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18354 Gender:	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #118 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:24pm Yes your tumescence. I was merely trying to be more friendly.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26515 Australia	Re: OzPol ought to become more friendly. Reply #119 - Feb 24^th, 2019 at 6:47pm I can't read the PDF on here for some reason. If the thread is still going in the morning I'll take a look Spot
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