Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 4
Send Topic Print
Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future (Read 6195 times)
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Jan 24th, 2019 at 11:17am
 
Even the worst lowest skilled party in Australia led by Bilious Billy is pushing the Hydrogen energy Revolution.

No doubt after seeing how all electric cars have flopped as just unsafe toy gimmicky inconveniences the dream boats in Labor decided to get behind the future of REAL HYDROGEN ENERGY.





Labor wants to make Qld 'ground zero' for hydrogen tech
22/01/2019|2min

Labor has committed $3 million to transform the Queensland town of Gladstone into the 'National Hydrogen Innovation Hub', a policy that is hoped would help curb the region’s high unemployment rate.

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten says he has a vision of using hydrogen as one of Australia’s energy sources and exports, the 'equivalent of LNG 2.0'.

The investment would form part of a Federal Labor plan to inject more than $1 billion into a National Hydrogen Plan to make Australia a ‘world leader’ in the hydrogen industry.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_5992174769001?utm_campaign=audience-mobile&u...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #1 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 11:25am
 
Suppose ScoMo will follow and back hydrogen as well.




Labor promises to 'supercharge' hydrogen industry as green groups say 'no role for coal'. Labor would allocate $1bn from Clean Energy Finance Corporation and invest up to $90m from Arena
Lisa Cox Tue 22 Jan 2019 17.01 AEDT Last modified on Tue 22 Jan 2019 17.22 AEDT

...
A $1.1bn plan announced by Labor to build up Australia’s hydrogen industry has been welcomed by environmental groups, so long as it is backed by renewable power.

Labor said on Tuesday its national hydrogen plan would “supercharge” Australia’s renewable energy industry and create thousands of regional blue-collar jobs, particularly in Queensland.

Under the proposal, a Labor government would allocate $1bn in funding from the Clean Energy Finance Corporation for clean hydrogen development and invest up to $90m from the Australian Renewable Energy Agency for research, demonstration and pre-commercial deployment of hydrogen technologies.

It would also establish a $10m Arena funding round for hydrogen refuelling infrastructure and set up a hydrogen “innovation hub” in Gladstone with an initial investment of $3m.

Labor said that the direct investment from the policy was focused on the production of hydrogen gas using renewable energy, but the platform did include regulatory reforms and infrastructure investment that could assist hydrogen production from non-renewable sources.

Arena is restricted from supporting non-renewables technology and the legislation for the CEFC prevents it from investing in carbon capture and storage.

“Developing a hydrogen industry will deliver new opportunities for manufacturing, transport and electricity generation,” Shorten said in a joint statement with other Labor ministers. “As the global demand for hydrogen surges to an expected $215bn market by 2022, Australia is uniquely placed to benefit from the development of this new, job-generating industry.”

Hydrogen gas can be made from water, coal or natural gas.

While the definitions vary, generally “green” or clean hydrogen is made from water through electrolysis using electricity from renewable energy.

“Blue” hydrogen is made from natural gas and “brown” hydrogen is made from coal.

Both blue and brown hydrogen production usually uses electricity from fossil fuels and, for this to be zero-carbon, the process must use carbon capture and storage to offset the resulting greenhouse gases.

Some of the proposed regulatory reforms from Labor would support the use of existing gas pipelines for hydrogen, support the shipping of hydrogen, and the storage of CO2 from blue and brown hydrogen production.

Richie Merzian, the climate and energy program director at the Australia Institute, said the CEFC was well placed to support clean hydrogen development and that hydrogen made using water and renewable energy was “a rare and opportune industry for Australia to transition its energy exports”.

But he said it would “be disappointing if any proposed support for the new industry would go to hydrogen made using gas or coal, on the basis of businesses making dubious promises to capture and bury resulting greenhouse gases”.

“Australia Institute research has shown the federal government has committed over $1.3bn to carbon capture and storage and has nothing to show for it, with most projects failing,” he said. “Solar, wind and hydro energy should be powering the hydrogen industry and we see no role for coal with carbon capture and storage.”

The government is literally doing nothing, call the election now Scott Donald Barnevelder Morrison!

The Australian Conservation Foundation said a $1.1bn commitment to the industry was “a win for the environment, regional communities and job creation so long as it backed by renewable power”.

“Australia has an enormous opportunity to export our virtually limitless wind and solar energy to power-hungry neighbours, particularly across the Asia-Pacific region, through green hydrogen,” said Suzanne Harter, the ACF’s climate change campaigner.

She said Australia had some of the best clean energy sources in the world and the cost of producing hydrogen with renewables had fallen dramatically in recent years.

“But in a world where we must urgently stop climate pollution to limit the damage from global warming, only hydrogen produced from clean energy sources, not polluting coal and gas, is acceptable,” Harter said.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/22/labor-promises-to-superch...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30923
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #2 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:59pm
 
Yes sockos message is to keep the gullible public totally dependent on greed incorporated for its energy needs Sad
Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
DonDeeHippy
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Cool Stuff

Posts: 2782
Australia
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #3 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 3:45pm
 
so Jules you agree with Labour this is a good idea ? Wink
Back to top
 

I am me
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30923
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #4 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 4:23pm
 
Looks like Toyota is abandoning the never ever hydrogen cars !!

Toyota and Panasonic Form Joint Venture to Make EV Batteries

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/toyota-panasonic-joint-venture-make...
Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
Frank
Gold Member
*****
Online


Australian Politics

Posts: 59247
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #5 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:14pm
 
juliar wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Even the worst lowest skilled party in Australia led by Bilious Billy is pushing the Hydrogen energy Revolution.

No doubt after seeing how all electric cars have flopped as just unsafe toy gimmicky inconveniences the dream boats in Labor decided to get behind the future of REAL HYDROGEN ENERGY.





Labor wants to make Qld 'ground zero' for hydrogen tech
22/01/2019|2min




Is this the 'final solution' ?
Back to top
 

Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #6 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:30pm
 
The Tweedle dimwit twins are buzzing around spreading their gross ignorance of all things great and small.

Wonder when Musky will quietly change over to hydrogen power ? Wonder if the suspension will still break and a wheel fall off ?

Gee won't it be good when hydrogen replaces diesel in the large trucks spewing out diesel pollution that move containers from the wharves ?


...
Running on hydrogen there will be only steam coming out of the exhausts with quick refuel and increased efficiency with a fuel cell


...
Look at that - clean as a whistle works all day long without overheating






Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #7 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:35pm
 
Frank,
actually Sth Australia is already trialing hydrogen buses and a solar +Wind driven hydrogen electrolyzer.

Silly Billy is just trying to con Nth Qld to take their mind off ADANI and a clean coal power station.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30923
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #8 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 11:03pm
 
I'm so thrilled that my future electric car won't use a single cent of sockos laughing gas Cheesy LOL
Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #9 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 10:14am
 
Tweedledumb is the epitome of ignorance of all things great and small. A success story for the FABIAN Socialists' dumbing down of Australia.

Laughing gas is actually N2O.

Note the Gay Greeny style where Tweedledumb tries to make it a personal thing. No doubt Tweedledumb will be joining the Extrenist Greeny protesters on Australia Day.


And now does coal which powers most of the Teslas running around get a new lease of life in the Hydrogen Energy Revolution ?



New Tech Converts CO2 Into Electricity And Hydrogen
By Irina Slav - Jan 22, 2019, 3:00 PM CST

...

Amid increasingly urgent calls for more radical climate change action, a team of South Korean scientists has found a way to kill two birds with one stone by converting carbon dioxide into electricity and hydrogen.

The team, from the Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology, took as a starting point of their research the fact that when CO2 is absorbed into the sea—which is where most CO2 emissions end up—the acidity levels of the water rise. As per their report, “If acidity increases, the number of protons increases, which in turn increases the power to attract electrons. If a battery system is created based on this phenomenon, electricity can be produced by removing CO2.”                                       

The system that the researchers invented very much resembles a fuel cell in which the reaction starts when CO2 is injected into the water, which contains the catalyst necessary for the reaction and the sodium metal cathode. The team reports the system has a pretty high conversion efficiency at 50 percent and has operated for more than 1,000 hours without the electrodes sustaining any damage.

Ideally, the system could be deployed to capture and convert emissions from fossil fuel-powered facilities into hydrogen, to be used in its turn as vehicle fuel. However, this is early-stage research. According to the lead co-author of the research, Professor Jeongwon Kim, “This research will lead to more derived research and will be able to produce H2 and electricity more effectively when electrolytes, separator, system design, and electrocatalysts are improved.”

It’s good to have research like that to spur further work in the field and eventually, hopefully, it’ll lead to practically applicable electricity generation systems that at the same time reduce the world’s carbon footprint. However, we will have to wait quite a while longer.

Systems such as the one designed by the UNIST scientists rely on carbon capture and storage. This approach to reducing carbon emissions has been garnering quite a lot of attention but it remains more a topic of discussion than a technology that’s being adopted widely. The reason: prohibitively high costs.

The costliest part is the capture. The Carbon Capture and Storage Association estimates the cost of capturing carbon emissions from fossil fuel burning at about US$70-102 per ton. The same association predicts these could fall to around US$40-57 over the next few years, with hopes that carbon capture technology will follow the cost-falling path of lithium ion batteries. However, it is far from certain it will work out that way.

Back in 2016, a Clean Technica author, business consultant Michael Barnard, calculated the total cost of capturing, transporting, and sequestering (long-term storage) a ton of CO2 at US$120-140. This translates into US$140-164 trillion for the capturing, transportation, and sequestration of more than 1,100 gigatons of CO2 if we are to return to CO2 levels from before the Industrial Revolution, according to Barnard.

It is in this respect that the UNIST breakthrough is very important: it eliminates the need to store the captured CO2 for any considerable length of time. Using it to produce electricity could significantly cut the costs associated with the whole carbon capture and storage affair.

By Irina Slav for Oilprice.com

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/New-Tech-Converts-CO2-Into-Electricit...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #10 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 10:31am
 
The only problem if Labor is involved is that they will create another NeverBuiltNetwork disaster as their technical incompetence is legendary.

But of course everyone knows Bilious Billy is just trying to get votes and will promise anything.





It’s A Gas : Labor’s $1 Billion National Hydrogen Plan
January 23, 2019 by Michael Bloch

National Hydrogen Plan

Federal Labor announced yesterday that under a Labor government,  $1.14 billion would be invested under a National Hydrogen Plan to make Australia a global leader in the growing hydrogen industry.

“From transforming transport, to providing secure, affordable and clean energy for industry, the potential of an Australian hydrogen industry is massive,” says Labor.

Hydrogen gas can be produced through the process of electrolysis, using electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen.  It’s an energy intensive process, but Labor says Australia’s renewable energy sector can be leveraged to produce cleaner hydrogen competitively – using wind energy, solar power and other renewables.

Under the National Hydrogen Plan:

$1 billion of funding will be allocated from the Clean Energy Finance Corporation to support clean hydrogen development. This will come from Labor’s previous commitment to double the CEFC’s capital by $10 billion.
Up to $90 million of the Australian Renewable Energy Agency’s unallocated funding will be invested to support research, demonstration projects and pre-commercial deployment of related technologies.
$10 million for funding hydrogen refueling infrastructure across the country, also from unallocated ARENA funding.
$40 million from unallocated CEFC Clean Energy Innovation Fund cash for hydrogen tech and businesses that have moved beyond R&D stage.
Implementation of regulatory reforms to support the industry.
A National Hydrogen Innovation Hub to be established in Gladstone, Queensland
Australia’s Clean Energy Council was among those generally welcoming the plan.


“Labor’s National Hydrogen Plan could create a new export industry powered by our world-class wind and sunshine, which may one day rival resource commodities such as liquid natural gas,” said Chief Executive Kane Thornton.

Hydrogen as part of a clean energy future has its issues and challenges – among them:

Green, Blue And Brown Hydrogen
A devil in the detail of Labor’s plan was mention of blue and brown hydrogen. One of Labor’s commitments involves “reforms to better support the storage of CO2 from blue and brown hydrogen production”. Blue hydrogen is created from gas and brown from coal. As SQ’s Ronald recently pointed out, coal to hydrogen is just plain dumb – and from natural gas it probably isn’t much smarter.

Green hydrogen is generally considered to be produced from renewables-powered electrolysis.

Where Would The Water Come From?
Creating a lot of hydrogen needs a lot of energy – and water. Australia isn’t exactly flush with fresh water resources, but sea water can be used. As for what to do with the salts left behind, that would be dumped back into the sea. This could create some localised salinity issues depending where and how it was dumped.

Shipping Hydrogen
Aside from the energy involved in producing it, one of the challenges of working with hydrogen regardless of its source has been transporting the gas. Back in 2017, we reported CSIRO was putting the final touches on a system enabling hydrogen to be shipped in ammonia form using existing infrastructure and then reconverted back to hydrogen at the point of consumption.

https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/labor-hydrogen-plan-mb0910/
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Sir lastnail
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 30923
Gender: male
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #11 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 10:48am
 
Export industry for what socko ? If nobody else is using it then there is no export industry !

As for labor sinking 1 bill into this  I find it ironical that they couldn't even give this local EV manufacturer an order for some of its cars to trial !!

https://www.smh.com.au/national/electric-car-maker-angry-over-import-deal-201007...

Quote:
AUSTRALIA'S leading electric car manufacturer has blasted the federal government for choosing an imported model to be Australia's first electric trial fleet.

In June, the federal Minister for Transport and Infrastructure, Anthony Albanese, announced that the government would be buying 40 imported Mitsubishi i-Miev electric vehicles as a way of encouraging the uptake of electric vehicles.

But Castlemaine-based Blade Electric Vehicles said the decision was inexplicable given that its car, the Blade Electron, was better, cheaper, and had been developed with federal government funding.

''We cannot understand why Mr Albanese has chosen to exclude the Electron,'' said Ross Blade, director of BEV.

''The federal government has spent over $100,000 of taxpayers' money on the development of the Blade Electron through the COMET (Commercialising Emerging Technologies) program. Despite the Electron meeting Australia's design standards, the federal government has chosen instead to lease a foreign product at nearly double the cost.''

Mr Blade said that Mitsubishi was leasing the i-Miev for $1740 a month for a total cost over three years of $62,640. This compared with $900 a month for the Electron, for a total cost over three years of $48,000.

Mr Blade said the Electron was a bigger car with superior performance to the i-Miev and, more importantly, could be plugged into a regular power point for recharging.

However, a spokesman for Mr Albanese, Geoff Sinclair, said the government did not choose the Blade Electron because it was not a mass-produced car and did not meet two Australian design standards, although he could not say which ones.

Mr Blade said that if the Australian government was not going to buy a locally made electric car, it stood little chance of being mass produced.

''In terms of our vehicle being mass produced, the fact of the matter is that if the Australian government is not going to buy them, then how can they be mass produced?

''It's a chicken and egg thing.''

Back to top
 

"If you take out Saddam, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region..." - Benjamin Netanyahu in 1995
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #12 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 10:58am
 
Hydrogen Power is almost here. It will squash the toy electrics.


In a smoke-choked port, riding along in Toyota’s hydrogen-powered semi
Tim Esterdahl 06.30.18 - 3:00AM PST

...
Toyota Hydrogen Trucks

Semi trucks are filthy, loud, and slow. But without them, you’d have no bread in your grocery store, no beer in your fridge, and no Amazon packages on your doorstep. No wonder Americans were fascinated when Elon Musk promised to turn the entire industry upside down with clean, quiet, absurdly fast electric semis built by Tesla.

Keyword: promised. Like the Model 3 before it, Tesla’s semi seems to be hitting road bumps, on the way to becoming real, and skeptics now wonder if will ever get here.

Fortunately for us, we don’t need to wait for Musk: Toyota has an electric semi quietly hauling freight around Southern California. Right now. It moves 80,000 pounds, runs on a hydrogen fuel cell, and puffs out pure water vapor in place of black diesel clouds. It’s called Project Portal.

Who needs Tesla? Digital Trends rode shotgun on the roads around the Los Angeles-Long Beach Port Complex area to see if hydrogen is up to the task of heavy hauling.

BUCKLE UP
Toyota doesn’t make semis. So rather than reinventing the wheel – or all 10 of them – Toyota engineers modified a Kenworth, a vanilla-looking semi you’d blow right past on the interstate without batting an eye. But climb inside this one and it becomes clear you’re not dealing with an ordinary diesel anymore. For starters, there’s the miniature shifter. Borrowed from Toyota’s petite hydrogen-powered Mirai, it looks like a pencil compared to the 2×4-like shifter in an ordinary semi. And that’s just the beginning.

Juice here comes from the fuel-cell stack, which combines hydrogen with oxygen to generate electricity, emitting only water.

The retrofit had Toyota engineers pulling out the diesel engine, tearing out most of the interior and dash, and building a custom storage container for four high-pressure hydrogen tanks and two 6-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion batteries – that’s smaller than you would even find in a Nissan Leaf. Unlike Tesla’s battery-powered semi, juice here comes from the fuel-cell stack, which combines hydrogen with oxygen to generate electricity, emitting only water. An electric motor cranking out 670 HP and 1,325 lb-feet of torque holds its own beside the 600 HP Cummins diesel you might find in an ordinary T660.

This electric motor is connected directly to the driveshaft and turns the massive axles. Pretty simple powertrain conversion. That is after Toyota made its way through a seemingly unending mass of wires connecting the electric motor, battery, hydrogen fuel cell and stacks together. These wires are massive in diameter.

The sound of the truck firing up, or lack of it, immediately gets your attention. “One of the things I noticed when I first started driving on the streets is how I can hear the suspension,” said Danny Gamboa, one of the professional drivers Toyota contracted to help test the rig. “In a typical diesel semi, you can’t hear any of that stuff. You basically blast the stereo so all you can hear is the revving of the engine.”

...
Toyota Hydrogen Trucks

Releasing the air brakes, a familiar hiss fills the air and the semi eases forward. Still quiet. Bizarrely quiet. Making a right turn onto a busy street, Gamboa puts the accelerator down and the unexpected happens.

The truck flings us into the backs of our seats. While Toyota doesn’t publish an official 0-to-60 time (semi trucks never really do, and drivers don’t want fast take offs since it causes freight to shift), the sensation of tells us we are really moving. There is no jerking like diesel semi trucks do when the driver rows through the many gears: You push on the accelerator and the electric powertrain smoothly rushes you forward up to the speed requested.

Gamboa puts the accelerator down and the unexpected happens.

Gamboa says this ease of use means less driver fatigue, and he would know. He has been driving it for months now, and puts in long 10- to 12-hour days moving Toyota freight around the docks.

As we ride along for the day, we roll down some of the worst roads in the area, deeply rutted and pockmarked with pot holes. Elbow-to-elbow with other semis on a tight four-lane row, we watch them bounce and rattle as their suspensions try – and fail – to smooth out the road. While we still feel bumps, we’re gliding on a cloud in comparison. The conversion moved the weight in the semi around creating a better center of gravity leading to a much smoother ride.

THE CLOUD HANGING OVER DIESEL
While Toyota’s truck is quieter, easier to operate, and more comfortable than a conventional truck, it’s the green credibility that is most sorely needed here in the combined port complex of Los Angeles and Long Beach. With 68 miles of waterfront and 10,000 acres of land, it carries the dual distinction of being one of the biggest, busiest ports in the world, as well as having the worst air quality in Southern California.

...

Read the air cleaning rest here

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/toyota-project-portal-hydrogen-semi-ride-alon...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #13 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 11:01am
 
Go away Tweedledumb you are an embarrassment you are just so dumb. Do you have trouble with echos in the vacant space between your ears ? Classic Nth Coast Greeny Type. A success for the dumbing down of Australia.


China is racing ahead with the Hydrogen Energy Revolution as they have a massive problem with diesel pollution in their cities.



Chinese companies team up to develop hydrogen trucks
Xinhua | Updated: 2018-10-13 18:30

...

A bus that runs on hydrogen fuel cells is refueled by technicians in Rugao, Jiangsu province. Li Cunzhen / Xinhua
HAIKOU -- China's energy giant has partnered with a leading engine producer to jointly develop hydrogen trucks.


An agreement was inked between two subsidiary companies and a research institute of China Energy Investment Corporation, the world's largest energy company for installed capacity, and manufacturer Weichai Power Company to produce heavy-duty mining trucks running on hydrogen. Such trucks will have a carrying capacity of more than 200 tonnes.

The companies aim to make breakthroughs in key equipment and engineering technologies through the cooperation, according to a statement.

The move marks a step forward in promoting clean fuel in China's transport sector, which has already witnessed the operation of hydrogen-powered buses in Shanghai as well as Chengdu, capital of Southwest China's Sichuan province.

CHN Energy's general manager Ling Wen said China's hydrogen fuel development has started to pick up pace, adding that more technological innovations will promote the use of hydrogen in a wide range of industries from cars to spaceships.

A report predicts hydrogen will soon become a significant part of China's energy mix, taking up a share of at least 10 percent.


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201810/13/WS5bc1c93ea310eff3032822d7.html
Back to top
« Last Edit: Jan 25th, 2019 at 11:07am by juliar »  
 
IP Logged
 
juliar
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 22966
Re: Even dead Labor recognizes Hydrogen energy future
Reply #14 - Jan 25th, 2019 at 11:24am
 
The Hydrogen momentum is building up all around the world as the no pollution advantages of hydrogen are a magnet for pollution choked cities.

Hydrogen as an energy storage for spasmodic erratic solar and wind is extremely attractive as it is unlimited and renewable and pollution free.

It is very attractive for vehicles because of the quick refuel time and ability to operate continuously without overheating which is a bugbear of all electrics which can't do a day's work without overheating.





Sales boost for fuel-cell trucks
David MeredithThe West Australian Thursday, 22 February 2018 1:02PM

...
Shanghai delivery company has placed the biggest order yet for hydrogen fuel-cell trucks.

Ballard Power Systems, a US Nasdaq stock exchange sweetheart, has announced the sale of 500 hydrogen fuel-cell trucks to a Shanghai city delivery company.

The light-duty trucks use the company’s FCvelocity-9SSL proton exchange membrane fuel-cell stacks and are built by Dongfeng Special Vehicles in Shiyan, China. They are part of the company’s effort to reduce emissions from urban transportation.

Stimulated by government incentives, Dongfeng has built the trucks using a system owned by Ballard and assembled by Ballard’s joint-venture company in China.

The 30kW fuel-cell engine is supplied by a Shanghai company, Re-Fire, and allows a range of about 330km and a payload of 3.2 tonnes.

The Chinese fleet delivery comes hard on the heels of Kenworth’s announcement and preview of its Zero Emissions Transport Truck in the US, which also features Ballard’s hydrogen fuel-cell stacks to generate electricity.


...
Ballard's Fuel Cells are already in hydrogen buses

According to Kenworth, the system compares more than favourably with a pure electric driveline, with twice the range, 15 times faster refuelling over recharging and is a tenth of the weight of a pure electric motor/battery system.


In 2017, the Science and Technology Commission of Shanghai, the Shanghai Municipal Commission of Economy and Information and the Shanghai Municipal Development & Reform Commission launched the Shanghai Fuel Cell Vehicle Development Plan, calling for the annual production of 3000 fuel-cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) by 2020.

Two recently constructed hydrogen refuelling stations are operating in Shanghai, with two additional stations nearing completion. As per the development plan, 5-to-10 hydrogen fuel stations are planned by 2020.

The numbers are currently small compared with China’s expected 2020 production of 1.1 million medium and heavy-duty trucks (approximately 42 per cent of global production) but the numbers are clearly on an upward path.

The 500 trucks in this order are expected to be the world’s largest deployment of fuel-cell commercial trucks and will be phased into operation during the course of this year as the fuelling station network is expanded.

Ballard chief executive Randy MacEwen described China’s fuel-cell transportation market as “fast-moving”.


...
Kenworth's hydrogen fuel-cell truck will be working in California later this year

“We are pleased to be collaborating with Re-Fire as we drive market adoption of fuel cell electric vehicles — or FCEVs — incorporating Ballard fuel-cell technology,” he said.

“We believe this is the largest planned deployment of fuel cell-powered trucks anywhere in the world. It is not surprising that this is happening in Shanghai given that city’s leadership in the commercial adoption of FCEVs.”

Re-Fire chief executive Robin Lin said fuel-cell electric commercial trucks represented a large and attractive market opportunity in China, particularly where user requirements favoured long-range, heavy payloads and fast refuelling.

“Ballard is the premier global PEM fuel-cell technology company, so using Ballard-designed fuel-cell stacks in our engines was an easy decision,” Lin said.

The contest between pure electric battery power, with its almost silent operation, and on-board fuel-cell generation through emission-free hydrogen, which sounds like a kettle boiling, is shaping up to be the greatest industry punch-up since diesel engines.

The winner will be the industry and, of course, the public.

https://thewest.com.au/lifestyle/motoring/sales-boost-for-fuel-cell-trucks-ng-b8...
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 4
Send Topic Print