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Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 6:28pm
 


A Melbourne man [an Egyptian living in Melbourne. ed who set up an NDIS registered company that provided no services managed to defraud the disability scheme of $370,000 in just five weeks.

Mohamed Osman Omar, 36, exploited a security flaw in the NDIS which allowed him to make up participant numbers and bill 168 people for services without even knowing their names or disabilities.

Although his firm provided no services the money was removed from accounts of people who desperately needed NDIS funding simply because he had entered their participant number.

The court heard Omar started accessing participant records from June 18 and made 332 successful requests for payment for non-existent services to 168 participants.

“The world has lots of participants for us,” Omar texted an associate while on holiday to Egypt in late June.

On July 4 Omar texted another associate about whether anyone had their plans approved.

“We need to start f..king working mate,” he wrote.

“Are we going to wait until everyone robs the government and then we get shut down without making a $1?”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/ndis-company-that-offered-no-services-st...

Diversity of value system, eh?


Mohamed Omar? Where have I heard that name before?
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Reply #16 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:32pm
 
Canada has a NESB Somali Muslim immigration minister. 






Thank god for Australia's BS detector - how long will it last??





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Reply #17 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:59pm
 
You know, Soren, only Racists talk about discriminating on the basis of "race".   Everybody else talks about discriminating on the basis of what individuals have done.

Seems much fairer that way, rather than deciding that a person's skin colour/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips or some other physical evolutionary adaptation determines their behaviour.

As we all know, "race" is a social construction, Soren.  Genetics has determined that there is nothing which differentiates the various "races" apart from their physical evolutionary adaptations.   We are all members of the same "race", the Human one.   You share the same genetic structure with every other human being, Soren.   Time you faced scientific reality.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #18 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm
 
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans
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Reply #19 - Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here
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Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:40pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here


So why mention the colour of their skin, Bias?  What influence does it have on their behavior?  Any at all or none at all?   You keep skirting 'round my questions.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 6:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here


So why mention the colour of their skin, Bias?  What influence does it have on their behavior?  Any at all or none at all?   You keep skirting 'round my questions.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes



OK - why are Africans doing it but not anyone else? Not skin colour? Actually, it IS skin colour, it's being 'badassniggers'.  They thrive on that because they have absolutely nothing else to look to.

It's their culture - or rather lack of it. These African kids are emulating the worst of the American negro culture. They are not tribal Kenyans or Bantus - they are all 'kill you black person' LA rappers and losers

Black American culture is largely responsible for the appalling lives of Black Americans and all other blacks who emulate them as if they were the embodiment of 'black culture'.

The religious Christian blacks are fighting a rearguard fight against the destruction of their young by rap and drugs. My heart is with them but you can see that they do not have native resources, because their native culture is a dead end, to resist the onslaught of modernity. Christianity is their strong fortress.

Being of 'tanned complexion', as one of the news reports put it the other day, is a fantastic burden to deal with.  It must be absolutely bewildering and extremely difficult to navigate.

But they must navigate it and the price is to recognise the need to supersede their 'tanned' cultures. They must find a way to leave all that hooey behind. A big ask but they must do it.

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Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:59pm:
You know, Soren, only Racists talk about discriminating on the basis of "race".   Everybody else talks about discriminating on the basis of what individuals have done.

Seems much fairer that way, rather than deciding that a person's skin colour/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips or some other physical evolutionary adaptation determines their behaviour.

As we all know, "race" is a social construction, Soren.  Genetics has determined that there is nothing which differentiates the various "races" apart from their physical evolutionary adaptations.   We are all members of the same "race", the Human one.   You share the same genetic structure with every other human being, Soren.   Time you faced scientific reality.   Roll Eyes


Like being a Somali Muslim minister of immigration is a social construct, Bwian.

He is a Somali Muslim immigrant in charge of thee immigration program of Canada - a non-Somali, non-Muslim (for a little while longer) country.

dam madness.




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Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:25pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here


So why mention the colour of their skin, Bias?  What influence does it have on their behavior?  Any at all or none at all?   You keep skirting 'round my questions.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes



OK - why are Africans doing it but not anyone else? Not skin colour? Actually, it IS skin colour, it's being 'badassniggers'.  They thrive on that because they have absolutely nothing else to look to.

It's their culture - or rather lack of it. These African kids are emulating the worst of the American negro culture. They are not tribal Kenyans or Bantus - they are all 'kill you black person' LA rappers and losers

Black American culture is largely responsible for the appalling lives of Black Americans and all other blacks who emulate them as if they were the embodiment of 'black culture'.

The religious Christian blacks are fighting a rearguard fight against the destruction of their young by rap and drugs. My heart is with them but you can see that they do not have native resources, because their native culture is a dead end, to resist the onslaught of modernity. Christianity is their strong fortress.

Being of 'tanned complexion', as one of the news reports put it the other day, is a fantastic burden to deal with.  It must be absolutely bewildering and extremely difficult to navigate.

But they must navigate it and the price is to recognise the need to supersede their 'tanned' cultures. They must find a way to leave all that hooey behind. A big ask but they must do it.


*SIGH* so many contradictions there, Soren.  On one hand, you attack people because of the colour of their skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/etc. and then, on the other you're attempting to paint yourself as being in sympathy with them.  Sorry, it doesn't wash, not in the slightest.

In reality, you're a Racist.  You believe that a social construct - the concept of "race" - determines the behavior of individuals.

African migrants tend to be refugees - they have fled horrendous situations.  They often have not had any parents who have looked after them - they have been "child soldiers".  They have no positive role models to emulate, except other older soldiers.  They are used to murder, to rape, to pillage.   The overwhelming majority are willing to throw those experiences behind them.  You however believe because of the colour of their skin this determines how they act and who they are.   In your mind, "black == evil".  They are uncivilised and never can be civilised, so you characterise them as "evil".   Such foolishness, such childish attitudes.

As I have already mentioned, Genetics has proved there is no substantial difference between members of humanity.  We are all members of the one race - the human one - homo sapiens sapien.  It is what allows us all to interbreed - we share the same genetic pool.   Until you recognise that and embrace people of other "races" as your brothers and sisters, Soren, you are a lost cause.  You have no understanding of other peoples and you have no desire to accept them as being related to you.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #25 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:29pm
 
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let me know when your plane leaves sore end and I'll make sure I'm there to wave you off.
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Reply #26 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:59pm:
You know, Soren, only Racists talk about discriminating on the basis of "race".   Everybody else talks about discriminating on the basis of what individuals have done.

Seems much fairer that way, rather than deciding that a person's skin colour/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips or some other physical evolutionary adaptation determines their behaviour.

As we all know, "race" is a social construction, Soren.  Genetics has determined that there is nothing which differentiates the various "races" apart from their physical evolutionary adaptations.   We are all members of the same "race", the Human one.   You share the same genetic structure with every other human being, Soren.   Time you faced scientific reality.   Roll Eyes


Like being a Somali Muslim minister of immigration is a social construct, Bwian.

He is a Somali Muslim immigrant in charge of thee immigration program of Canada - a non-Somali, non-Muslim (for a little while longer) country.

dam madness.


His nationality is Canadian, Soren.  His ethnicity is Somali.   Just like an Australian-Italian is Australian nationally and Italian ethnicity.   Just as you're a Danish-Australian, Soren.  Do you feel that your allegiance is or should be questioned because of where you were born?  Always remember, you flew here, I was born here.   You have little connection with the nation in which you reside, if you want to question this Canadian Government Minister...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:45pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 12th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
"Non-discriminatory immigration is wrong"

Could have used that advice a couple of hundred years or so ago  Wink

https://billmuehlenberg.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/australia-day-5.jpg

https://mattanslow.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/boat-people.jpg


Could the Abo's even speak before white man came and gave them everything?
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Reply #28 - Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:18pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here


So why mention the colour of their skin, Bias?  What influence does it have on their behavior?  Any at all or none at all?   You keep skirting 'round my questions.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes



OK - why are Africans doing it but not anyone else? Not skin colour? Actually, it IS skin colour, it's being 'badassniggers'.  They thrive on that because they have absolutely nothing else to look to.

It's their culture - or rather lack of it. These African kids are emulating the worst of the American negro culture. They are not tribal Kenyans or Bantus - they are all 'kill you black person' LA rappers and losers

Black American culture is largely responsible for the appalling lives of Black Americans and all other blacks who emulate them as if they were the embodiment of 'black culture'.

The religious Christian blacks are fighting a rearguard fight against the destruction of their young by rap and drugs. My heart is with them but you can see that they do not have native resources, because their native culture is a dead end, to resist the onslaught of modernity. Christianity is their strong fortress.

Being of 'tanned complexion', as one of the news reports put it the other day, is a fantastic burden to deal with.  It must be absolutely bewildering and extremely difficult to navigate.

But they must navigate it and the price is to recognise the need to supersede their 'tanned' cultures. They must find a way to leave all that hooey behind. A big ask but they must do it.


*SIGH* so many contradictions there, Soren.  On one hand, you attack people because of the colour of their skin/shape of their eyes/thickness of their lips/etc. and then, on the other you're attempting to paint yourself as being in sympathy with them.  Sorry, it doesn't wash, not in the slightest.

In reality, you're a Racist.  You believe that a social construct - the concept of "race" - determines the behavior of individuals.

African migrants tend to be refugees - they have fled horrendous situations.  They often have not had any parents who have looked after them - they have been "child soldiers".  They have no positive role models to emulate, except other older soldiers.  They are used to murder, to rape, to pillage.   The overwhelming majority are willing to throw those experiences behind them.  You however believe because of the colour of their skin this determines how they act and who they are.   In your mind, "black == evil".  They are uncivilised and never can be civilised, so you characterise them as "evil".   Such foolishness, such childish attitudes.

As I have already mentioned, Genetics has proved there is no substantial difference between members of humanity.  We are all members of the one race - the human one - homo sapiens sapien.  It is what allows us all to interbreed - we share the same genetic pool.   Until you recognise that and embrace people of other "races" as your brothers and sisters, Soren, you are a lost cause.  You have no understanding of other peoples and you have no desire to accept them as being related to you.   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Africans are fleeing Africans. The ones here are exactly the same as the ones who are still there.
That's  why they are a problem here - because they are a problem there.
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Reply #29 - Jun 27th, 2019 at 4:43pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:40pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:48am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:39pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17pm:
There's been a lot of home invasions, bashings and robberies by black Africans


And why do you think that has happened, Bias?  Is it because of the colour of their skin?  Really?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It's because they're black Africans and nobody wants them here so they go on crime sprees vindicating why we don't want them here


So why mention the colour of their skin, Bias?  What influence does it have on their behavior?  Any at all or none at all?   You keep skirting 'round my questions.  I wonder why?   Roll Eyes



White African have a completely different culture, a largely European culture, and so they are far more compatible with Australia, Europe and North America. They assimilate readily and they fit in more often than not. There are no white African gangs rioting and robbing in Melbourne or Sydney.

Black Africans, being culturally as distant as it's possible to be, form criminal gangs here, in Europe and North America. Race and culture map onto each other pretty readily and the case of white and black Africans illustrates it starkly.

This is not to say that black Africans or Aborigines or black Americans MUST be criminal but that it is a predicter that must not be ignored. Just like you will not be killed every time if you cross at the red light but will be killed more often than you would be when crossing when it's green. You would bee an idiot to ignore the colour of the traffic light, similarly you would be an idiot to ignore race as a predicter of culture.
A fundamentalist Muslim in his 20s or 30s is far more likely to be an Islamic terrorist than a Danish grandmother but of course when it comes to airport security we must pretend that there is no difference between them so the feelings of the sons of Mohammed are not hurt.

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