Frank wrote on Jan 24^th, 2019 at 6:24pm:


This is satire yes? It must be, for it would be impossible for you to not know that there is only one nuclear powered country in the region, and who it is.


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What I find to be a consistent trait in all your rantings (they can hardly be passed as 'arguments') is a singular refusal to engage in any of the actual detail of an opposing argument and simply use it as an excuse to do rattle off your same standard templated 'never ever' rant, that you apply in every situation - no matter how off point it is.

Case in point - I specifically mentioned Hezbollah in specific reference to a calculated strategy by Iran to maintain a continuous zone of influence from Iran to the Israeli border - one of the insurance policies Iran takes out against the very real existential threat posed by the only nuclear armed country in the region.

And I must say that my so called "reflexive dishonesty and propaganda BS" is nothing really out of sync with what mainstream media and commentators are saying all the time. It may shock you to know that most people don't see Iran and other 'enemies' of Israel as frothing-at-the-mouth zealots hell-bent on some twisted Allah-ordained jihad to wipe the jews from the planet. That would in fact be considered extreme and irrational. And yet thats exactly the scenario you and others here actually think is a reasonable assessment of the reality. And you have the spunk to portray me as the "blind" irrational one, incapable of critical thinking. What a joke!

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:


Did the Iranian President really say Israel should be ‘wiped off the map’?

Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map

Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be "wiped off the map."



Netanyahu says Israel would hit Iran to ensure its own survival

Will Israel Really Strike Iran?

The attack on Iran that wasn’t: Ehud Barak’s autobiography

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 6:47pm:


The words have different meanings, Soren.  The Israelis lied about what the Iranian President said.   People say things for their home audience which are never meant to be heard by foreigners.  One only has to read the bullshit that you spout continually against your fellow Australians.   

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Everybody wants to defend themselves.  What makes Israel more right than Iran?  Nothing.  They are both led by crazy men.  QED.   

Frank wrote on Jan 27^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:


Never threatened?  Really, Soren?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.

Netanyahu says Israel would hit Iran to ensure its own survival

Will Israel Really Strike Iran?

The attack on Iran that wasn’t: Ehud Barak’s autobiography

 

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2019 at 10:09am:


IRAN has been very vocal about attacking Israel FIRST, cockwomble. Israel's RESPONSE to Iranian threats of annihilation has been to threaten to attack Iran's nuclear facilities.

In a May 2012 speech to a defense gathering in Tehran, Iran's Military Chief of Staff declared: "The Iranian nation is standing for its cause and that is the full annihilation of Israel."

From the moment he entered Ehud Olmert’s government, Barak writes that he ordered Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi to prepare a plan for a “surgical strike” to destroy most of Iran’s nuclear facilities. When Barak understood that Israel did not have the capability for such an attack (it lacked of midair refueling aircraft and the necessary bunker busting bombs), he writes, “I was determined to do all I could to change that.”

So you can whistle in the dark all you like, Bwian, about how stupid you are and how much you enjoy living in your unnmoored alternativbe reality.

Your idiotic wheeze about domestic audiences is as facile and ridiculous as the rest of your lies and distortions.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Admitting defeat again, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, run along back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong, OK?   

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Muslims around the world are welcome to them. I am not a spineless, squishy hypocrite and liar like you, Bwian.

dear Brian,
don't ignore the Jews and their Samson Option.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:


It's not interesting, Bwian. It just shows once again that you are a useless, snivelling cockwomble.

Iran leader urges destruction of 'cancerous' Israel
December 15, 2000
Web posted at: 6:33 AM EST (1133 GMT)

TEHRAN, Iran (Reuters) -- Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called on Friday for the destruction of Israel, describing it as a "cancerous tumor" in the Middle East.

"Iran's stance has always been clear on this ugly phenomenon (Israel). We have repeatedly said that this cancerous tumor of a state should be removed from the region," Khamenei told thousands of Muslim worshippers in Tehran.

"The Palestinian issue is not an internal Israeli matter. It involves the interests of the whole Islamic world, including Iran. All should strive to return that piece of land to Islamic hands."

The Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, wants Jews to know that he, and the country he represents, are their friends. In an interview with Ann Curry, he accused the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, of intentionally misreading Jewish scripture in order to make the case that Iran is malevolently predisposed toward Jews: “If you read the Book of Esther, you will see that it was the Iranian king who saved the Jews," Zarif said. "If you read the Old Testament, you will see that it was an Iranian king who saved the Jews from Babylon. Esther has a town in Iran where our Jewish population, which is the largest in the Middle East, visits on a regular basis.”

It is true that, at different times, and in different ways, Persia has been a friend of the Jews. Cyrus the Great (the Iranian king mentioned by Zarif in the interview) restored the Jews to their homeland in the Land of Israel after their Babylonian exile. President Harry Truman, who recognized the state of Israel in 1948, 11 minutes after it was reborn, later proclaimed proudly, "I am Cyrus." 

There is dark humor (or a lack of self-awareness) in Zarif's citation of Cyrus as proof of Iranian philo-Semitism, because today's Iranian leadership does not recognize Jewish sovereignty in Israel, as Cyrus once did, but instead seeks the annihilation of the Jewish state.

I am in favor of a negotiated agreement that will keep Iran at least a year away from a nuclear weapon in part because, in the post-Holocaust era, it is crucially important to keep such weapons out of the hands of those who promise to do Jews real harm. As I've written, it is not likely that Iran would launch a preemptive nuclear attack on Israel, but it would almost certainly redouble, under the protection of a nuclear umbrella, its work toward Israel's eradication, with disastrous consequences. (We'll have the argument over whether the agreement now taking shape is the best possible deal in another post. Suffice it to say that the parameters of the current, still-unfinished deal are cause for some worry.)