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Reply #30 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 4:35pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 2:50pm:
Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 12:38pm:
My point is you can't vote for globalism and then whine when someone looks like achieving it.

Do you think globalism will result in perfect equality of all and absolute freedom of individual rights?


I don't recall anyone ever voting for globalism. Most have been conned into believing that it isn't what they voted for.


And I don't recall governments having anything to do with globalism apart from liberalizing the banking sector.
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Reply #31 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 4:44pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 8:57am:
I am trying to think of a list of cultures who haven't killed for local  territory eg primitives or national or global expansion.


There is a tribe that has no vocabulary for war, they are unique to anthropology. I am sure there are others Eskimos?

But conquest and expansion is a human condition.



TD... the west hasnt done that in donkeys years... give us a break  the only one still doing it is CHINA....Hong Kong Taiwan..and Tibet if they have half a chance.....


the largest sector of China is POOR.. they work very hard for little in comparison to us....we just dont get to see it.....my daughter has not long come back....but it was a very organised tour...they didnt see the overcrowding and children working...that is domination by a govt that has a lot to hide......

if your friend in now rich   he needs to take care of it  be cause C hina wont let him leave with it...

remember James Packer.....
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Reply #32 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 10:17am:
You leftists sound like nationalists, remember your mantra; nationalists are bad communists are good.



What about we middle roaders who believe that communism is bad and ultra-nationalism is bad and ultra-capitalism (robber baronism) is bad, but that socialist nationalism, a mix of capitalism and socialism, is the only real way forward?

I hesitate to use the term national socialism, since that was ruined by henchmen of Hitler with their excesses for ridiculous ideological purposes.... real National Socialism would not do those things.... an uncontrolled oligarchy such as Hitlerism permitted and encouraged does... so read  ANY uncontrolled oligarchy....

Keep your sights down, your weapons clean, and your target in sight....
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Reply #33 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 6:43pm
 
Term Dog wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Valkie wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
China taking over Australia will solve many great wrongs

Politicians will all be executed.......win

Muzzos will be sent to re-education......win

Multinationals will be controlled .......win

Communists will run the country.....lose

See three wins to a lose, not too bad.



If China are still commy they are really bad at it.

I think they need a new definition, in many ways they are the most capitalist capitalist's in human history but with total authoritarian centrally planned everything.


I don't know where they are defined in the political spectrum but at least today they ain't communist.

They would execute  Marx and most of western leftists.


Only Stalinist for the 'lower classes' - you get the difference between Communism and Stalinism?  Stalinism is absolute control of those who are the majority at the bottom..... Communism is supposed to be sharing abilities and outcomes.... Russia and china were never Communist..... only Stalinist.

You sound young.... stick around..... you'll leanr one hell of a lot from older heads here.

Lady Lols did a fine job with her comments... add up all the comments to date and you'll get a pretty good picture of current China and the very real peril, the clear and present danger, it represents in the Asian Pacific Basin and Region..... and especially to its near neighbours, on whom it encroaches daily, offering a choice between acceptance or confrontation which might lead to war.....

Do you know of any single Asian nation that, at this time, wants to go to war with China?  Yet China continually pushes the boundaries with Vietnam, The Philippines, and every other neighbouring nation...  apart from North Korea... which puts pressure on South Korea...

Oddly, in her usual unthought out way, Pauline Hanson has it right this time - Chinese people are not the problem for this nation - it is the Chinese government.... Hanson simply cannot get her mind around the words needed to define her position.... and thus will not e receive my vote...

Like dealing with 'feminism' which has little to nothing to do with women and rights,try to separate the Chinese 'government' from the ordinary people....

That way I can guarantee you to fail your uni course dealing with these (and other) issues..... an epidemic of academics...
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Reply #34 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:20pm
 
Anyone who thinks Communism works should read Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr  Sollzhenitsyn
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Reply #35 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
red baron wrote on Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:20pm:
Anyone who thinks Communism works should read Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr  Sollzhenitsyn


What is Red Baron doing about it?

Blithering doesn't stop the "great threat".

The genie is out of the bottle. China is unstoppable.
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Reply #36 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
red baron wrote on Nov 18th, 2018 at 7:26am:
China's expansion into the Asian Pacific region needs to be viewed with all the seriousness that partners in the ASEAN conference obviously do

The agreement to build a Naval Base on Manus Island which will be  mounted by a partnership of Asian nations is drawing a line in the sand to the Chinese

The Chinese already have a road building and construction program underway particularly in South Pacific nations which are poor. These are in the form of 'loans' which it is patently clear they have no hope of repaying. Often these projects are nonsensicle and not needed

However China's strategy is to have these Countries 'indebted' to them thereby creating huge leverage

It is welcoming that the U.S. in particular recognises the immense danger that China poses as it flexes its muscle in the Pacific with its 'building' of islands then militarising them

We should be distancing ourselves from China it has already been exposed that China has directed its huge companies such as Huwaii to spy on foreign Governments and customers

China is the Big Brother that Orwell predicted and we must resist it with all our might




Or you could do a Trump and meet them on a non-threatening 'equal' ground (unlike previous Presidents who 'belittle' China as a political 'naughty kid') which results in much respect and honour.
This 'annoyed' Putin and Russia: how dare China put on such a lavish welcome for Trump of the USA ! Angry

...but this is how Trump plays his cards: He makes Russia 'over-confident' directly, but less confident in-directly through China.

In the end, Trump's work will be seen 'after' he is gone from Presidency.
He will be remembered as the President who turned CHINA against RUSSIA. He made China Darth Vader pick up the evil Russian Emperor and throw him into the Abyss.

Trump knows that Russia is the reason why everything in Asia is up the clacker. Why China 'fears' USA, which justifies its military expansionism. Which is why Trump reinforces that USA has no intention of 'invading' China - even the N.Korea. That USA is being 'defensive' only.
So if the USA won't 'invade' - then who will China fight then?  Wink

In the end, China will invade Russia.

Yeah - sure, the Media will have you think otherwise.
Let alone, get the news 3 months after the word is out.
The Media hasn't really got a clue and is probably one of the perpetrators as to why the world is stuffed up currently.


So Trump has put into place the orthodox approach of negating Russia once and for all - not directly, but indirectly via China.

Eventually, after Trump is gone. You will get a blonde Aryan-Angel President. The Media will hate him too. But he will put an end to the MING THE MERCILESS military agenda of China.

The Ranga starts it.
The Blonde finishes it.

"Bye bye Russia"
(Hello Republic of Australia) Lips Sealed
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Reply #37 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:55pm
 
What abject insanity from JaSin.

China to attack Russia to the benefit of USA? Nonsense.
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Reply #38 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 6:00pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 20th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
What abject insanity from JaSin.

China to attack Russia to the benefit of USA? Nonsense.


Nostrodamus predicted the Sino (China) & Russo (Russia) WAR too.
I think I'll go along with someone who did a detailed study of history to make his predictions, rather than your 'lack of effort' to prove otherwise.

...its always the thing you least expect, that will happen.
Just like the USSR/USA 'nuke war' - never happened, but 'everyone' thought it will.

Maybe LTYC, if you studied 'history' and realise that when a pendulum swings one way, it eventually swings back the other way.

CHINA V RUSSIA
(because China will NOT attack the USA)  Wink
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