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Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:14am
 
Teacher in UK faces sack after mistakenly calling trans student ‘girl’… despite immediate apology


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A schoolteacher could be out of a job, suspended for calling a trans pupil by the wrong gender while praising a group of students for a job well done.
Mathematics teacher Joshua Sutcliffe, 27, told a group of students that included a teen who identifies as a boy “Well done girls,” when he spotted them working hard in class. Sutcliffe said he was then corrected by the student, and apologized immediately.

The Oxfordshire teacher was suspended six weeks after the incident, when the student’s mother lodged an official complaint. The school has conducted an investigation into the complaints made against Sutcliffe, and he faces a disciplinary hearing this week.
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Reply #1 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 9:25am
 
Simple.
Demand a DNA test be done. If it comes back as female then tell em to farrkk off and go back to work.
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Reply #4 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:06am
 
All these bustards that condone gender re-assignment should be jailed for child sexual abuse.

How can you go against nature…..?

Instead of sending the child to a psychiatrist they chop of their breasts and penises.

How f@rking sick is that……….???
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Reply #5 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:50am
 
it PC gopne stark raving mad... a slip of the tongue can cost you your job  because someone see evil in it....

no FOS even when praising someone... how bloody sad...

what happens when these  "trans". go into agedcare will they have to build special wings for them?...

in case someone speaks out of turn....

is calling someone by the wrong gender a CRIME NOW?
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Reply #6 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:16am
 
cods wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 10:50am:
it PC gopne stark raving mad... a slip of the tongue can cost you your job  because someone see evil in it....

no FOS even when praising someone... how bloody sad...

what happens when these  "trans". go into agedcare will they have to build special wings for them?...

in case someone speaks out of turn....

is calling someone by the wrong gender a CRIME NOW?



Looks like you can lose your job for any petty reason.

It will be here soon - if not already.
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Reply #7 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:48am
 
is it a CRIME though....this is what they need to look at..

not just some bitchy mother with a smiggin of power..
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crazy bored world we live in- make up a problem
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Reply #9 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:55am
 
Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:54am:
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Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:54am:
crazy bored world we live in- make up a problem



n ot wrong agnes

the members of the Honduras Caravan are now suing Trump......and they are not even at the border yet.. Roll Eyes





makes sense to some!
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cods wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:54am:
crazy bored world we live in- make up a problem



n ot wrong agnes

the members of the Honduras Caravan are now suing Trump......and they are not even at the border yet.. Roll Eyes





makes sense to some!

OMG- the migrant caravan thing is sooo funnnyy---never a dull moment but plenty of stupid ones  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:39pm
 
Amazing how 26 years, and an overseas culture is so different to what I went through. In my year 8 class, we had this Art teacher who was a former heroin addict. Not that his former drug use was the problem. He had been clean for 5 years. The problem was that in the first class with him, he established himself as an aggressive and potentially violent person with a psychopathic disorder. Some of it I put down to him having a ptsd from a near death experience with drug use. Others I put down to him having a sociopathic religious cult lady that he worked with at the school -- one who helped him get off the drugs. The rest I contend was that he was some sort of sexual pervert with a severe inferiority complex.

Yet, for most part, he lead with put downs and sexual harassment. It was like being in military school with a drill sargeant. The worst he got was when he attacked a student with false accusations. When he finally found out that he was wrong, he acted like it was the student's fault for not telling him what he did not know. Things were never his fault. Then, his behaviour was petty when he asked the male students to "tuck in the dresses". When some of the students finally had enough of the poor behaviour, they took their complaints up with the deputy principal, her response was to just call the complainants liars -- 3 day suspensions each. The fact that this teacher did not get fired is amazing. I guess the deputy principal was too scared herself to face him.

Teachers are so protected with their jobs then. I would assume that the need for teachers these days means that teachers are more protected with their jobs today. Considering the nature of complaint against the featured teacher in the article, he should sue for discrimination against the student for sexual harassment. He/she mislead the teacher to the point that his accidentally misread his/her gender. If it turns out that the teacher originally correctly identified the gender of the student, he should be compensated without prejudice. If it was a matter of the student's complaint being merely one of mistaken gender preference, then an apology is more than sufficient, but not required. He/she should have made that clear to the teacher.
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Reply #13 - Nov 3rd, 2018 at 5:07pm
 
I am not joking, I had teachers run over to watch kids fight in the school ground while smoking cigarettes, they only stepped in to stand the combatants back up if it went to ground.

Bit before my time at school  but apparently  mothers in country towns organised formal dances to try marry their daughters off to the young male teachers back in the day.
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When I was in grade 6 primary school two boys from the same grade (seniors) were caught fighting in the school yard by a teacher. He pulled them to one side and quickly realized as soon as he is gone it’s on again.

So what did he do, he told them he would bring boxing gloves and they could have it out in a boxing match in the shelter sheds.

Next day at recess the whole school was there, this teacher (ref) and the two boys were the only ones in the shelter shed, everyone else was outside, they donned the gloves and went at it for 3 rounds about a minute each.

The boys knocked each other about but the gloves were 16oz and bigger than their faces, after that fight those two boys became the best of friends.

That would never happen today.
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It's probably safer to refer to everyone as "hey you"

Or as the grubberment wants it, "hey drone"

Ants and bees are gods warning to mankind
If we continue down this path
We will be mindless, sexless working drones.

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Reply #16 - Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:05pm
 
I am not sure about this story.  Perhaps a link to the original article.  I think there is something more to it. 

Perhaps, the teacher did not immediately apologize or perhaps it was used intentionally out of context, or perhaps there is other histories.

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tickleandrose wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 3:05pm:
I am not sure about this story.  Perhaps a link to the original article.  I think there is something more to it. 

Perhaps, the teacher did not immediately apologize or perhaps it was used intentionally out of context, or perhaps there is other histories.



He apologised immediately.

By the way, this happened 12 months ago - it's old news.

And, the teacher ended up resigning.
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Gee

Imagine the trouble I'd get into


I laugh myself silly at guys dressing up as girls or girls dressing as guys

A bloke had makeup on a few years ago and I asked him if he did it for a dare

That's the good things about these pansies
You can say what you like and the little piss ants are too scared to say anything

Probably trolls hiding behind their computers and insulting everyone
Just to get their rocks off
Because in the real world they are just pussies
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Valkie wrote on Nov 5th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
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Imagine the trouble I'd get into


I laugh myself silly at guys dressing up as girls or girls dressing as guys

A bloke had makeup on a few years ago and I asked him if he did it for a dare


I think the worst I have seen was during a computer session at the university computer laboratory. Some really butch guy was dressed up really effeminantly. Hair permed, make up, lipstick (I think). Not really sure what type of make up he was wearing, since it was not overdone. Such as if he had to, he would be able to wash off the make up really quickly. He had noticeable long nails with nail polish. And I would assume that he was not wearing a dress. But his shirt was something only females would wear. I, too, thought he was doing the dress up as a dare.

The only other time was more recently when I was accosted by some male prostitute dress up as a woman. It was kind of convincing to think it was a trashy chick out on the town with the wig and everything seemingly real. But, as soon as he started doing the "mwuah-mwuah-mwuah!" kissy face thing, it became embarrasssingly obvious that it was a guy dressed up. It was like seeing the female gremlins character from Gremlins 2.
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Valkie wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
It's probably safer to refer to everyone as "hey you"




Or as the grubberment wants it, "hey drone"

Ants and bees are gods warning to mankind
If we continue down this path
We will be mindless, sexless working drones.

No pleasure
No joy
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This is where we are headed

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Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:54am:
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That's the smartest comment I've ever seen you post.
You are absolutely right Agnes!
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What you have here is the 'flip' side of the USA Civil War.

Yankee 'Gays' defeated the Confederate 'Rednecks'.

The Confederate Rednecks were held accountable for the 'Domestic' crime.

But what we are now seeing is the Yankee Gays with 'too much freedom'.
The need to be held accountable for their 'International' crimes upon the world.
Either the World needs to put an end to it or the Confederate Rednecks need to step back up and say "You're ruining our nation on an International level!".

It's really a case of two wrongs not making a right.
One is already held accountable, the other needs to be held accountable also...
...so the scales of Justice are brought back to balance.



Transgender?
Really, its like driving a
Blue
car with stickers on it saying its
Pink
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C'mon - how far can such mental abuse go?

If I was that teacher, I would sue the school, the kids parents and the education system!!

So kids can make themselves opposite to what they really are?
The absolute stupidity of Western society has become profound!

Someone is to blame for all this, but no-one is prepared to point the finger! I blame the Gay Yankees, specifically the MEDIA induced side of Politics that has corrupted Politics for so long.

To think they sent the 'Criminals' to Australia.
But the real 'Criminal' is the USA  Tongue
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Quote:
Yankee 'Gays' defeated the Confederate 'Rednecks'.



Not anymore - Trump grabs women by the pussy.
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A society hell bent on pretending reality. Well....they can all farrrq off.
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The trans gender person is still human ....and humans have feelings no matter what the sex...out of his religious ideology the evangelical teacher knew he would be hurting the girls feelings....such is what religion does ...its good at hurting people.
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What utter nonsense........ ban the use of non-words to describe people....

Man up, you losers..... woman up.. YOU losers.... get over yourselves..... seek psychiatric treatment.
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Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 7:17am:
The trans gender person is still human ....and humans have feelings no matter what the sex...out of his religious ideology the evangelical teacher knew he would be hurting the girls feelings....such is what religion does ...its good at hurting people.


So someone's passing feeling is more important than reality?  The demands of a minority are more important than reality?

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Ye Grappler wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 10:03am:
What utter nonsense........ ban the use of non-words to describe people....

Man up, you losers..... woman up.. YOU losers.... get over yourselves..... seek psychiatric treatment.



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While I think this trans gender business is a passing phase or fad....it's appropriate to respect peoples differences, whether that be religious or cultural or sexual or an alien with three heads....personally I don't see that as a bad thing.

The teacher in question let his religious prejudice get in the way of respect...in today's world its live and let live and to keep an open mind.  Cool
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Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
While I think this trans gender business is a passing phase or fad....it's appropriate to respect peoples differences, whether that be religious or cultural or sexual or an alien with three heads....personally I don't see that as a bad thing.

The teacher in question let his religious prejudice get in the way of respect...in today's world its live and let live and to keep an open mind.  Cool



Doesn't his religion require him to address females as females?
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Ye Grappler wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 10:04am:
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 7:17am:
The trans gender person is still human ....and humans have feelings no matter what the sex...out of his religious ideology the evangelical teacher knew he would be hurting the girls feelings....such is what religion does ...its good at hurting people.


So someone's passing feeling is more important than reality?  The demands of a minority (Individual) are more important than reality?

OK........


Who does it hurt apart from the person you ridicule....You think that it is alright to put your beliefs before others and deliberately humiliate someone because you disagree with their choices....The reality is this is exactly what is wrong with our society and it is getting worse!!!

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Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
While I think this trans gender business is a passing phase or fad....it's appropriate to respect peoples differences, whether that be religious or cultural or sexual or an alien with three heads....personally I don't see that as a bad thing.

The teacher in question let his religious prejudice get in the way of respect...in today's world its live and let live and to keep an open mind.  Cool



Doesn't his religion require him to address females as females?


Yeah because trans gender people were a big problem in Jesus day!!!

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philperth2010 wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
While I think this trans gender business is a passing phase or fad....it's appropriate to respect peoples differences, whether that be religious or cultural or sexual or an alien with three heads....personally I don't see that as a bad thing.

The teacher in question let his religious prejudice get in the way of respect...in today's world its live and let live and to keep an open mind.  Cool



Doesn't his religion require him to address females as females?


Yeah because trans gender people were a big problem in Jesus day!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Ha. You're the one that harps on about allowing religious freedoms.  Grin

Direct from the stories you linked......

Teacher says his Christian beliefs mean he does not think there is anything wrong with referring to someone who is born female as a girl

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Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
While I think this trans gender business is a passing phase or fad....it's appropriate to respect peoples differences, whether that be religious or cultural or sexual or an alien with three heads....personally I don't see that as a bad thing.

The teacher in question let his religious prejudice get in the way of respect...in today's world its live and let live and to keep an open mind.  Cool



Doesn't his religion require him to address females as females?


Yeah because trans gender people were a big problem in Jesus day!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Ha. You're the one that harps on about allowing religious freedoms.  Grin

Direct from the stories you linked......

Teacher says his Christian beliefs mean he does not think there is anything wrong with referring to someone who is born female as a girl

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What the bible basher believes should not negatively impact another person's choice....It is not the teachers decision to make and he should respect other peoples beliefs and not push his views onto others!!!

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Re: Teacher faces sack for calling trans student girl
Reply #36 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 11:09pm
 
Had a Transgender in the cab.
Former 'He' now a 'She'.
I really didn't give a rat 'who' the person was at the time.
But eventually, they tried to solicit a 'response' to their personal being, out of me.
Due to the stupidity of the 'hypocrisy' of the person's being.
I just said
"I don't give a rat's about 'what' you are."

I don't think they had a comeback for me labelling them neither male nor female ...just an 'unknown something' sitting in my cab.
The person even tried to 'flirt' with me - trying to 'attract' me to their new 'female' state...
...until they saw the expression on my face that said something like "How dare you try to DECIEVE me!"  Angry

And that's exactly what it is:
DECEPTION


...for a nation short of Doctors, there seems many who would do such frivolous vain operations.
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