And it is not as if these Tesla unsafe problems started just recently.



Tesla Model X Is Bedeviled By Problems That Were Predicted By Experts
David Kiley Apr 19, 2016, 07:23pm

A Tesla Model X is displayed during the Geneva Motor Show 2016. The luxury crossover is showing early quality problems that will be hard to fix because they are baked into the design of the car. (Photo by Harold Cunningham/Getty Images)

Tesla Motors TSLA -0.26% chief Elon Musk is learning that taking orders for cars is the glory of the auto business. Making sure the cars work properly and that customers are taken care of is another kettle of fish entirely–as the newest report from Consumer Reports shows about early problems with the Tesla Model X crossover.

Some of these problems were predictable, and were, in fact, forecasted by auto industry veterans. Chief among the problems are the knife-hinged doors. There is a reason why these kinds of doors, popular on auto-show concept cars, almost never make into production. “The Model X appears to be unbuildable with those automatic gull-wing doors, which everyone in the industry always said were not going to work,” said former GM vice chairman Bob Lutz on CNBC last Fall.

The Model X’s curved windshield, too, reports Consumer Reports, has resulted in drivers seeing double-vision distortion of oncoming headlights and street-lamps. This could become a safety recall if there are accidents as a result of the design, or garner enough bad publicity that Tesla will have to make a change.

The question for Musk is: Was he advised by experienced designers and production chiefs that these features, pretty and interesting as they are, might not be worth doing if they are known to cause these kinds of problems?

Other problems reported by Consumer Reports include an insufficient heating system, failure of automatic sensors that keep the doors from hitting stuff, paint issues and a frequently frozen center-dash screen.

A Tesla spokesperson issued the following email in response to the Consumer Reports article: “We are committed to making the world's most reliable cars. While we have seen some issues with early Model X builds, the issues are not widespread, and we are working closely with each owner to respond quickly and proactively to address any problems. We will continue to do so until each customer is fully satisfied. This commitment is one of the reasons why 98 percent of our customers say they will buy another Tesla as their next car.”

Consumer Reports has had a bumpy ride with Tesla. The magazine reported last October that the Model S performed better in its road test than any car in the history of the magazine’s testing. Wow! But scarcely a week later, CR pulled its “recommended” rating from the Model S.

Jake Fisher, the head of auto testing for Consumer Reports said that while the car tested off the charts, literally, for performance and handling, surveys turned in by owners told a different story. Fisher told National Public Radio: “Statistically speaking, this car is more likely to have problems than the average vehicle. And that's not a good thing. You know, when you plunk down this kind of money, you want a car that's going to not just perform really great, but do it every day without headaches.”

The efficacy of the car’s AutoPilot feature, which is meant to counter distracted driving events, has been a problem too, with drivers recording themselves driving hands-free at high speeds. The system has had very mixed reviews for how well it works.

Tesla has been riding a wave of positive publicity and share-price appreciation having taken in over 300,000 pre-orders with $1,000 deposits for its Model 3, not due to be delivered until late 2017, or 2018 for many buyers. The company’s shares have climbed about 76% in two months after falling precipitously last year. Read: Elon Musk Cements Pied Piper Stats With Launch of Model 3.

It’s not as if Tesla hasn’t hired some seasoned production experts. The company’s head of production is Gilbert Passin who held high-ranking production positions at Toyota, Volvo and Mack Truck. Toyota, which previously owned and operated the plant where Teslas are being built in Fremont, Calif., is the graduate academy for auto production in the industry. Tesla design chief Franz von Holzhausen labored at Mazda, General Motors GM -0.2% and Volkswagen. The kinds of problems the Model X is having usually result from the people holding those two posts not agreeing or not working off the same song-sheet; or the executive with the tie-breaker power, Musk, over-ruling what experts tell him is incredibly risky and difficult and probably not worth the negative fallout.

Tesla has been a niche manufacturer building cars in relative small volumes. But the Model 3 is going to change that. If everyone who plunked down a deposit for a Model 3 actually takes delivery, Tesla could be as big as Volkswagen is in the U.S. inside of five years. Musk should show that the company is ready for that kind of volume and strain on the system by making lower-risk design choices; unless he's comfortable with the roller-coaster-track-like chart that has been Tesla’s share-price history of late.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/04/19/tesla-is-bedeviled-by-model-...

And the troll with the strained brain that is malfunctioning due to overheating by Global Warming tries to come out from under the floor boards but like a Tesla, conks out. Gurgle, Grunt, Gasp!!!

These trolls are a bigger disaster than the unsafe Teslas!!!!!!   They are like some sort of children's comedy show.



Winter Has Barely Started, But Tesla Model 3 Cold-Weather Complaints Are Pouring In
Courtesy of ZeroHedge. View original post here.

The Tesla Model 3's inaugural winter hasn’t really even started yet and already owners are beginning to have issues with their vehicle, according to a new report by pro-Tesla blog electrek.

Even though Tesla technically began delivery of its Model 3 vehicles last year, the first few months of deliveries took place in California where there was no notable cold weather. It took some time for the Model 3 to make its way east and to colder climates, but it finally has, spurring a litany of complaints.



The recent cold front coming through Quebec, where temperatures went slightly below freezing for the first time this year, resulted in a number of reports from local Model 3 owners facing issues with things like door handles, windows and charge ports.

Owners are reporting that the Model 3 door handles are becoming extremely difficult to use because of the cold weather. They are usually activated by pressing on one side of them to pop them out. This is usually followed by the corresponding window rolling down slightly, something that other owners are reporting is not happening as it should.

But don’t take it from these reports, take it from the editor of the pro-Tesla blog electrek himself, Frederick Lambert. He decided to do some testing of his own after reading this report and, on a whim, arrived at the exact same problems. He documented his problems on a YouTube video.

VIDEO: Tesla Model 3 cold weather issues

As you can see by viewing the video, he struggles for about a minute, with his bare hands in the freezing cold, just to get the door handle to pop out so he can open his driver side door. Welcome to the future of automobiles.

He claims that preheating was on for about 10 minutes before he even walked up to his car. Prior to turning on preheating, the temperature outside the vehicle was -7C (19F) and the temperature inside the vehicle was about 1C (34F). The preset temperature for his car was 22C (about 71F). Those temperatures shouldn't be too troublesome, he alludes, because they weren't even cold enough to activate the battery pre-heating feature in the car. 

Lambert says he has gotten "a dozen" reports of Model 3 owners having the same types of issues. Some have also complained about the charge port door not opening and closing as it should, despite Lambert being able to do so in his video.

Lambert calls the problems "worrying" because he "doesn't see an easy fix" for it and because "the temperature is just starting to get cold". The fact that it's going to get much colder – and then eventually snow – seems to have him worried about what the winter will hold for his Model 3.

What's his sage-like advice to other Tesla owners?

In the meantime, the best solution is likely to overheat the cabin for a longer period of time before trying to unlock the Model 3. Of course, it’s not really convenient or efficient, but it’s the best ai [sic] can think of for now.

https://www.philstockworld.com/2018/11/18/winter-has-barely-started-but-tesla-mo...

juliar wrote on Nov 20^th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

Sick of talking to Dumb and Dumber

juliar wrote on Nov 20^th, 2018 at 4:27pm:


Check it out socko. Tesla drives in cold weather whereas the old clunker has no hope LOL

Welcome to Victoria socko. We hope you enjoy your stay LOL

Sounds like a flying bomb - reminds one of a low flying Tesla bomb that crashes into things.


Ever so slightly bent Tesla S doesn't see fire truck



Why are Tesla vehicles crashing into stopped vehicles? What makes it difficult for the sensors to detect vehicles like a fire truck?
Kevin Davidson, Drives an electric car Updated May 24

I drive a Tesla with Autopilot and I have a lot of experience with the car stopping and not stopping. I haven’t had a crash because I abide by the manufacturer’s instructions, including:

Warning: Traffic-Aware Cruise Control can not detect all objects and may not brake/decelerate for stationary vehicles, especially in situations when you are driving over 50 mph (80 km/h) and a vehicle you are following moves out of your driving path and a stationary vehicle or object is in front of you instead. Always pay attention to the road ahead and stay prepared to take immediate corrective action. Depending on Traffic-Aware Cruise Control to avoid a collision can result in serious injury or death. In addition, Traffic-Aware Cruise Control may react to vehicles or objects that either do not exist or are not in the lane of travel, causing Model S to slow down unnecessarily or inappropriately.

The reason that the Tesla Autopilot doesn’t always stop for stationary objects is that it may not be able to distinguish between real stationary objects and ones that only appear to be. The best example is the large metal road sign above the lane. When one approaches such a sign going up a hill it appears visually in front of the car, even though it is actually above the car. Visual quirks and stray RADAR reflections could trigger a sudden slow down and that would result in your car getting rear-ended. The Tesla car will not brake unless it is very sure the object is real. (I got a couple of beep warnings that that I asked Tesla to explain. They checked the logs and said the car had detected a 25% chance of a stationary object.) If the car ahead is moving, the problem is much simpler, and the car in my experience always gets that right.

Also there may not be time to stop if the car is traveling at high speed with a camera that is focused on closer objects. The car doesn’t see that far ahead, and if you’re going fast, the distance closes quickly. You can actually see the vehicles that the car detects on the center display on the instrument cluster.



The first generation Tesla Autopilot is pretty much tied to the MobilEye IQ 3 chipset. The Enhanced Autopilot is actually Tesla’s software and it has more cameras, and a more powerful computer behind it. The IQ 3 chipset references a large database of vehicle images in an attempt to distinguish what is a vehicle in the road and what is not. Oddly configured vehicles (and this conceivably might be some model fire truck) might not be recognized as vehicles.

New Tesla cars have three rather than one forward-looking cameras and a more powerful RADAR. This will allow them to see further down the road.

Looks like the Globally Warmed Tweedledum is suffering a overheated brain episode.