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Reply #330 - Mar 22nd, 2019 at 1:01pm
 
They must have sedated Tweedledumb to control her mental fit.
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Reply #331 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 3:15pm
 
looks like they sedated you socko Cheesy LOL

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Reply #332 - Mar 25th, 2019 at 6:16pm
 
The mental patient Tweedledumb must have recovered from her sedation after she chucked that mental fit.

Wonder what happened to her sister Tweedledee ?

And now what the intellectually handicapped Tweedledumb longs to see between chucking mental fits

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Slightly bent Tesla S
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Reply #333 - Mar 27th, 2019 at 7:38am
 
Now unsafe Tesla's sky high insurance chickens come home to roost.


Tesla Model S insurance almost $1,800 a year, Autopilot crashes again
AlanNeumann Posted on May 31, 2018

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(credit: Aurich / Getty/ Tesla)

Does Tesla’s Autopilot software have something against emergency services? That’s a flippant question, but there’s something underneath it.

On Tuesday, a Model S electric vehicle—with Autopilot engaged, according to the driver—crashed into a police car in Laguna Beach, California. The police car was unoccupied at the time, but the Tesla driver sustained minor injuries.

Last month, another Model S, also under Autopilot, slammed into the back of a stationary fire truck in South Jordan, Utah, resulting in a broken ankle for the Tesla driver.

And in January, a third Autopiloted Model S plowed into the back of another fire engine, this time in Culver City, California.

It’s probably best to avoid the conspiracy theories, though. It’s not some bug with Autopilot’s sensors and flashing lights—it’s more like inattentive drivers who should be paying attention to the road. As we learned last year, automatic emergency braking is only trained to work in a relatively narrow set of circumstances, typically in the case of a moving vehicle that’s directly ahead of the car. So a stationary emergency vehicle on the shoulder of the road, particularly one at an angle, might not get classified properly to trigger the function.

It has been a rough couple of weeks for Autopilot. The suite of advanced driver assistance systems, which includes adaptive cruise control and lane keeping, has also been blamed for destroying a Model 3 in Greece last week. In that case, the facts are even murkier—the car was on an unsupported road trip at the time, and Tesla had warned the owner before he set off.


Are Tesla’s safety claims backed up by the data?
It's reasonable to ask why crashes involving Teslas get covered when the overwhelming majority of the 40,000-odd road deaths in the US each year receive no such scrutiny. There are a couple of factors at play. The first is Autopilot, which through operational design allows cars to travel for long intervals without human interaction or any form of driver monitoring beyond a torque sensor in the steering wheel. (By contrast, the industry standard for other adaptive cruise control and lane keeping systems is just 15 seconds of hands-free operation before deactivation.) Hence, every time there is a crash involving a Tesla, the first question anyone asks is "was Autopilot driving?"

Then there's the fact that Tesla itself repeatedly talks up the safety of its cars, thereby inviting media attention. At various times it has claimed its vehicles are four times safer than average—and sometimes that they're the safest cars on the road. Tesla EVs do indeed score very well in crash testing—even if the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) did not include the Model S among the three safest full-size sedans in 2017. Neither the Model S nor Model X is included in the institute's list of top safety picks for 2018.

Sorry Elon Musk, there’s no clear evidence Autopilot saves lives
But there's also reason to be skeptical of the company's claims. For instance, Tesla repeatedly cites a National Highway Transportation Safety Administration statistic that the introduction of Autosteer to Autopilot reduced crashes by 40 percent. But last month, the NHTSA told us that it was a "cursory comparison" and that the agency "did not assess the effectiveness of this technology."
It's reasonable to expect that a luxury car like a Tesla would have a higher-than-average safety record, based both on owner demographics and the average age of the vehicles. On the other hand, the Model S did not appear on the IIHS's list of 11 vehicles that recorded zero occupant deaths between 2012 and 2015, a list that included several other luxury cars and SUVs. And in just the past few weeks, there has been a spate of fatal Tesla crashes, both here in the US and in Norway and Switzerland.

"In the US, there is one automotive fatality every 86 million miles across all vehicles from all manufacturers. For Tesla, there is one fatality, including known pedestrian fatalities, every 320 million miles in vehicles equipped with Autopilot hardware. If you are driving a Tesla equipped with Autopilot hardware, you are 3.7 times less likely to be involved in a fatal accident," Tesla told us. "Tesla Autopilot does not prevent all accidents—such a standard would be impossible—but it makes them much less likely to occur. It unequivocally makes the world safer for the vehicle occupants, pedestrians and cyclists." (Note that Autopilot is not believed to be a factor in all but one of the recent fatal crashes.)

Read the rest about The Model S is now the most expensive car to insure here.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/05/autopilot-blamed-for-more-crashes-tesla-ins...


and of course a mangled Tesla S
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Reply #334 - Mar 27th, 2019 at 12:30pm
 
juliar wrote on Mar 27th, 2019 at 7:38am:
Now unsafe Tesla's sky high insurance chickens come home to roost.


Tesla Model S insurance almost $1,800 a year, Autopilot crashes again
AlanNeumann Posted on May 31, 2018

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/tesla-crash-800x450.jpg
(credit: Aurich / Getty/ Tesla)

Does Tesla’s Autopilot software have something against emergency services? That’s a flippant question, but there’s something underneath it.

On Tuesday, a Model S electric vehicle—with Autopilot engaged, according to the driver—crashed into a police car in Laguna Beach, California. The police car was unoccupied at the time, but the Tesla driver sustained minor injuries.

Last month, another Model S, also under Autopilot, slammed into the back of a stationary fire truck in South Jordan, Utah, resulting in a broken ankle for the Tesla driver.

And in January, a third Autopiloted Model S plowed into the back of another fire engine, this time in Culver City, California.

It’s probably best to avoid the conspiracy theories, though. It’s not some bug with Autopilot’s sensors and flashing lights—it’s more like inattentive drivers who should be paying attention to the road. As we learned last year, automatic emergency braking is only trained to work in a relatively narrow set of circumstances, typically in the case of a moving vehicle that’s directly ahead of the car. So a stationary emergency vehicle on the shoulder of the road, particularly one at an angle, might not get classified properly to trigger the function.

It has been a rough couple of weeks for Autopilot. The suite of advanced driver assistance systems, which includes adaptive cruise control and lane keeping, has also been blamed for destroying a Model 3 in Greece last week. In that case, the facts are even murkier—the car was on an unsupported road trip at the time, and Tesla had warned the owner before he set off.


Are Tesla’s safety claims backed up by the data?
It's reasonable to ask why crashes involving Teslas get covered when the overwhelming majority of the 40,000-odd road deaths in the US each year receive no such scrutiny. There are a couple of factors at play. The first is Autopilot, which through operational design allows cars to travel for long intervals without human interaction or any form of driver monitoring beyond a torque sensor in the steering wheel. (By contrast, the industry standard for other adaptive cruise control and lane keeping systems is just 15 seconds of hands-free operation before deactivation.) Hence, every time there is a crash involving a Tesla, the first question anyone asks is "was Autopilot driving?"

Then there's the fact that Tesla itself repeatedly talks up the safety of its cars, thereby inviting media attention. At various times it has claimed its vehicles are four times safer than average—and sometimes that they're the safest cars on the road. Tesla EVs do indeed score very well in crash testing—even if the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) did not include the Model S among the three safest full-size sedans in 2017. Neither the Model S nor Model X is included in the institute's list of top safety picks for 2018.

Sorry Elon Musk, there’s no clear evidence Autopilot saves lives
But there's also reason to be skeptical of the company's claims. For instance, Tesla repeatedly cites a National Highway Transportation Safety Administration statistic that the introduction of Autosteer to Autopilot reduced crashes by 40 percent. But last month, the NHTSA told us that it was a "cursory comparison" and that the agency "did not assess the effectiveness of this technology."
It's reasonable to expect that a luxury car like a Tesla would have a higher-than-average safety record, based both on owner demographics and the average age of the vehicles. On the other hand, the Model S did not appear on the IIHS's list of 11 vehicles that recorded zero occupant deaths between 2012 and 2015, a list that included several other luxury cars and SUVs. And in just the past few weeks, there has been a spate of fatal Tesla crashes, both here in the US and in Norway and Switzerland.

"In the US, there is one automotive fatality every 86 million miles across all vehicles from all manufacturers. For Tesla, there is one fatality, including known pedestrian fatalities, every 320 million miles in vehicles equipped with Autopilot hardware. If you are driving a Tesla equipped with Autopilot hardware, you are 3.7 times less likely to be involved in a fatal accident," Tesla told us. "Tesla Autopilot does not prevent all accidents—such a standard would be impossible—but it makes them much less likely to occur. It unequivocally makes the world safer for the vehicle occupants, pedestrians and cyclists." (Note that Autopilot is not believed to be a factor in all but one of the recent fatal crashes.)

Read the rest about The Model S is now the most expensive car to insure here.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/05/autopilot-blamed-for-more-crashes-tesla-ins...


and of course a mangled Tesla S
https://cs.copart.com/v1/AUTH_svc.pdoc00001/PIX134/8d41d832-830b-44d0-bd3d-91f9b...

good post jules Cheesy
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Reply #335 - Mar 27th, 2019 at 4:54pm
 
Oh that's a relief - it was reported Tweedledee was tending her sister Tweedledumb after Tweedledumb had a mental breakdown fit and went all funny.


And to lighten their heavy load a nice Tesla Roadster smash

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You can feel the insurance companies cringe and wince in pain!!!!

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Reply #336 - Mar 27th, 2019 at 10:08pm
 
must be bad drivers socko Cheesy LOL

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Reply #337 - Mar 27th, 2019 at 10:14pm
 
Poor mental patient Tweedledumb is still suffering mental disturbances after she chucked a mental fit and went gaga.

Her sister Tweedledee has been caring for her during her spell of lunacy.


And here is a get well Tesla 3 Smash

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Reply #338 - Mar 28th, 2019 at 5:50am
 
Isn't it fascinating ? Exchanging posts with someone in a mental institution who is not the full quid and who is obsessed with socks and pictures of Tesla smashes.

Now a get well Tesla 3 smash

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Reply #339 - Mar 29th, 2019 at 10:20am
 
You should get your eyes checked socko before driving Cheesy LOL

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Reply #340 - Mar 29th, 2019 at 5:05pm
 
The mental patient with the sock obsession must be recovering from being sedated.

Wonder what on earth could cause someone to develop an obsession with socks ?

perhaps it is the attractive odor of a well work sock that she is attracted to ?

But when a mind snaps there is no telling what goes on in that damaged cranial cavity. Another looney Greeny ?

Now a nice get well Tesla smash

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Now here is a gleaming Tesla S just out of the showroom.





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Reply #341 - Jul 29th, 2019 at 3:09pm
 
Replying to: her  blood level was .20 and its tesla fault...…. 4 times over the limit and crashed.....  no other luxury car has high performance, no skylines out there or mustangs or camero's what a joke jules... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


A blood alcohol reading taking from a body that has been mutilated in a crash and left in a white hot TESLA FIRE FOR AT LEAST 15 minutes can not possibly yield a reliable blood alcohol level.

Teslas suffer from unintended acceleration caused by electronic glitches. That Tesla also had a WHOMPY WHEEL (see crash scene photographs)  Also the owner Keven McCarthy had hit a pothole a few months before which probably weakened the pretzel like suspension twiglets.

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Reply #342 - Jul 29th, 2019 at 6:20pm
 
Keel, How is your Tesla 3 going ?
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Reply #343 - Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:46am
 
Every Tesla is a potential Model 3
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