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Reply #180 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:26pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 9:39pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 4:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:32pm:

Torana in Germany

ohh yes and totally stock Grin

It should be in a museum and a Tesla would leave it for dead Cheesy

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Torana gives a Porsche 911 a 30 second head start on a twisty road caught and passed it around the 6 minute mark.

That German was impressed with Toranas when he visited here so he bought one to take back.

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Re: Tesla model 3 conking out
Reply #181 - Jan 5^th, 2019 at 4:26pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:26pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 9:39pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 4:44pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:32pm:

Torana in Germany

ohh yes and totally stock Grin

It should be in a museum and a Tesla would leave it for dead Cheesy

LOL

Torana gives a Porsche 911 a 30 second head start on a twisty road caught and passed it around the 6 minute mark.

That German was impressed with Toranas when he visited here so he bought one to take back.

Didn't Peter Brock kill himself doing something stupid like this ?

And Holden is out of business manufacturing here. What does that say about the success of their cars ?? As soon as the taxpayer handouts ran out so did Detroit Sad

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Reply #182 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 5:53am

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juliar wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 1:00pm:

Baron as you would know all that is required is to fit hard valve seats and unleaded runs OK. Hi octane juice is preferable to match the high compression as retarding the timing reduces the power.

When Holden brought out the fuel injected VN V8 it had 35% more power, 19% more torque and 17% better economy running on standard unleaded.

All the VN V8 onwards engine parts can be fitted to older red 253/308 V8 engines so you can keep matching numbers with engine block.

A great upgrade using genuine holden parts.

The Toranas were proven on the racetrack here they won Bathurst many times without needing to change brake pads.

A German guy came here bought a Torana took it back to Germany to run it at the same track where a Mini flogged the Tesla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqpLo492XyMi

so your trying to say that the Torana that won Bathurst was using stock brake pads , the brake pads put in a everyday car ? Cheesy

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Re: Tesla model 3 conking out
Reply #183 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 7:03am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 12:19pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 4^th, 2019 at 4:25pm:

[quote author=Baronvonrort link=1540524806/167#167 date=1546570169][quote author=DonDeeHippy link=1540524806/165#165 date=1546543033][quote author=thelastnail link=1540524806/163#163 date=1546510618][quote author=Baronvonrort link=1540524806/161#161 date=1546499095][quote author=DonDeeHippy link=1540524806/151#151 date=1546382755]Baron and Jules should love these pics of a torana in their most common state

Many people use the later heads from VN onwards because they're more efficient with better flow which means more power for less fuel, the heads and fuel injection bolt straight on to older 253/308 just need to change camshaft and exhaust it can be done in an afternoon. The older heads can handle unleaded for a couple of hundred thousand KM then just put hardened valve seats in the old heads run the valves in the cast Iron.

The fastest production car down the quarter mile is a Dodge Challenger SRT Demon at 9.65 seconds the best Tesla is not in the top 10.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_cars_by_acceleration

I could get my Torana into the 7 second bracket for quarter mile for a 1/10 of the cost of the quickest tesla.

Aug 10, 2018
The Model 3 Performance finished the quarter mile in 11.79 seconds at a speed of 115.18 mph in the first roundThe Model 3 Performance finished the quarter mile in 11.79 seconds at a speed of 115.18 mph in the first round. (that's 2 mph less than the SS Torana's top speed)

Now your torana STOCK......
SL/R 5000 4 speed manual:
1st: 48 mph (77 km/h)
2nd: 67 mph (108 km/h)
3rd: 88 mph (142 km/h)
4th: 122 mph (196 km/h)
0-100 km/h: 7.5 seconds
Standing Quarter Mile (400 metres): 15.5 seconds

[/highlight]Compression Ratio: 9.8:1

now the stock motor that came with the SS Baron 80kw less than the sl/r as they had to use the c31

5.0 litre V8 came as standard with the SS.
179kW (308)
SS 5000 Hatchback 4 speed manual:
1st: 53 mph (85 km/h)
2nd: 73 mph (117 km/h)
3rd: 97 mph (156 km/h)
4th: 117 mph (188 km/h)
0-100 km/h: 7.8 seconds
Standing Quarter Mile (400 metres): 15.6 seconds
https://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/holden_torana_LX_technical_specifications

now if the standard SS did 15.6 seconds stock and your's can do 11 seconds , we r talking about a highly modified car there Baron and not really a comparison to a stock Torana.

SO I remake my claim that the Tesla 3 is about 3 seconds faster than the fastest stock torana ever built (the SL/R at 15.5 seconds )

So how can u make a Stock Torana go 7 secs on the quarter Mile for $20,000 dollars when all the stock ones, now cost so much.......

If u can make a sub7, $20,000 drag car from scratch then u really should go into business because u would get lots of customers....
https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/gallery-2275hp-pro-street-torana
here is a torana barely street legal torana doing 7s on the quarter.........
That aero work is definitely going to get tested to the limit thanks to 12.5 litres of Brodix big-block rising menacingly out of the engine bay. The 763-cube motor makes 2275hp in total
5 years to build and u can do the same for $20,000 ,as the saying goes Baron your dreaming......

Even to get a stock 70's v8 car of any description to get down to 12 secs would cost more than $20,000 dollars....

Now its very nice u have a heavily modified nice old car, the reality is that stock they just cant compete with cars that r now 40 years older and 2 try comparing them is silly...… Almost every car u buy now will outdrag a standard SS . (7.8 sec for 0-100kms) The new imported Commodore VXR can do 6.9 secs with just a v6. The slowest Tesla is 5.2 secs.(fastest is 2.2 secs

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To belittle a car that can do 12-13 second quarter miles completely stock just seams weird Baron..
I understand u don't like Tesla's but the fact is on the Drag strip they r scary fast

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Reply #184 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am

This is all academic of course because Holden went out of business making cars and the ones they are importing couldn't even get into the starting gate Cheesy

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And the reason they don't like Tesla because it threatens their livelihood of making money out of repairing and servicing unreliable junk. For years they have been robbing people and now it is all about to disappear. But then the jobsungroth LNP should be able to find them another job from the millions of jobs they have created Wink

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Reply #185 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 11:11am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

This is all academic of course because Holden went out of business making cars and the ones they are importing couldn't even get into the starting gate Cheesy

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And the reason they don't like Tesla because it threatens their livelihood of making money out of repairing and servicing unreliable junk. For years they have been robbing people and now it is all about to disappear. But then the jobsungroth LNP should be able to find them another job from the millions of jobs they have created Wink

ohh don't worry Nail the big auto manufacturers will put their heads together and work out ways to keep servicing high, so they can stay in business Wink

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Reply #186 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 11:26am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 4^th, 2018 at 7:17am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:36pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 11:13pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Tesla have a 12v lead acid battery, when this battery dies you're stuffed.

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While I was in that painful stage of waiting for delivery of my Model S and reading everything I could on the forums one of the issues I ran across was a rash of 12V battery failures on the Model S that Elon even commented on in an earnings call.
The reports said that Tesla had chosen a poor vendor initially and the early Model S’s were plagued with this problem but that the problem had been resolved and was no longer an issue.

Wrong – my Model S indicated a problem after only 7 months of use (18,000 miles) and several others have reported the same.

The 12V battery maintains power for critical systems when the main battery is damaged or disabled. It powers hazard lights, airbags, door lock/unlock operation, etc. The 12V battery is also keeping electronics alive to listen to the key FOB lock/unlock and the 3G connection for remote access when the rest of the car is off. Another interesting tidbit is that if the 12v dies it will isolate the main battery pack preventing charging which is part of the Model S safety features and helps protect first responders.

Some owners are on their 3rd 12V battery already. Many others are reporting failures at the 1 year mark or even short of that like me. In ICE cars you can normally expect about 4 years of life out of your 12V battery. While it could just be “different” with the Model S where it may require a new battery every year, we’re seeing failures short of the 12 month mark which causes inconveniences to owners.

Tesla should be more upfront about these issues and let owners know what they’re doing to address the underlying problem.

I’ve started a poll over on TMC to see what kind of failure rate we’re seeing for the people that answer if you’re interested in monitoring this issue more. So far over 75% of respondents have had their 12V battery replaced. Keep in mind those most owners have had their Model S’s for less than 2 years…

http://teslaliving.net/2014/12/12/12v-battery-issues-in-the-model-s/

The Tesla is an expensive lemon.

More of the same problem here- https://www.google.com.au/search?source=hp&ei=KfbaW9G3LZDcrQGu7YCADw&q=tesla+mod...

Ok love stories that r 4 years old...
So Tesla first changed the manufacturer of thair battery... then they made it that the 12 volt gets changed every year last few years they added battery. Testers so now they can accurately give owners a 2 week notice if the battery will die........ ohh and it’s not a $40,000 battery it’s a 12 volt $100 battery we r talking about here...... so if your going to give really old articles please do more research and see if Tesla have fixed the problem....

If u look at owner forum they are on same battery that’s 4 years old and counting..... again if the worse u find about Tesla is a $100 flat battery from 4 years ago that been fixed please look harder.... Wink

The first post in the google link is tesla forum 2018 and tesla still haven't fixed this 12v battery problem.

Ohh u mean the 1 car in April that stopped, he rang Tesla they organized a taxi to get him where he wanted, then they picked up his car and found the 12 volt battery charger failed and they replaced it.... that one......... yes no one should buy a tesla with service like that... I mean if all car manufactures gave ppl a taxi so they wouldn’t be late for work then picked up their car and fixed it then delivered it home, the world would be in kaos Wink

o Baron Tesla sold 150,000 models 3's this year and is the best selling American company car sold there..... How many have conked out......U named 3 from 6 months ago, now there so many if your right they should be failing everywhere and the forum full of unsatisfied owners.....
I notice u haven't chased up this story to find out how many more r affected...….

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Re: Tesla model 3 conking out
Reply #187 - Jan 6^th, 2019 at 3:49pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 11:11am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

This is all academic of course because Holden went out of business making cars and the ones they are importing couldn't even get into the starting gate Cheesy

LOL

And the reason they don't like Tesla because it threatens their livelihood of making money out of repairing and servicing unreliable junk. For years they have been robbing people and now it is all about to disappear. But then the jobsungroth LNP should be able to find them another job from the millions of jobs they have created Wink

ohh don't worry Nail the big auto manufacturers will put their heads together and work out ways to keep servicing high, so they can stay in business Wink

Stop-start technology Cheesy

LOL What a crock of shite !! And toyota refuses to up the battery capacity on its hybrids and put a power cord on them because it keeps wanting to ripoff the punters on oil changes and all of the other junk that wears out. Old habits die hard for the fossil fool protagonists Sad

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Reply #188 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 2:09pm

The raving idiots Tweedledum and Tweedledee are just as retarded and ignorant as always. Missing brains overheated by Global Warming.

If these imbeciles could read they would know this TOPIC is about the unsafe Tesla piles of junk that are a dangerous hazard to other drivers.

But these nincompoops know they have been argued into the garbage tin as their weak minds just cannot compete and they are sore losers and just cannot accept defeat like a decent responsible person would.

The North Coast is full of these rejects from the human race.

Now back to the actual TOPIC which the Globally Warmed sore losers have been totally squashed and humiliated with.

New wide track Tesla ?

The RH back wheel has gone whompy. The tread on that tire is completely worn down to the canvas. The car must have been driven for several miles with the tread rubbing against the bodywork until eventually the suspension broke off completely. This exact same failure has been reported many times. A high quality photograph of an incident that occurred in China is also attached for purpose of comparison. The same result, driver is unaware of the problem until the wheel finally snaps off. This is a design/manufacturing failure. Please investigate.

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Reply #189 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 4:32pm

This is what happened to my husband and his car today. No accident,out of the blue, in traffic on Santa Monica Blvd. Thank you to the kind couple who flagged him down and told him to pull over. And thank god my three little girls weren’t in the car with him.

Video of unsafe Tesla pile of junk going up in smoke

No surprise these death chariots are SO unpopular here in Australia.

How many people need to die in these cars before it starts to matter?!?

You know how few Tesla’s are on the road compared to normal cars?

Here a list of deaths so far. Compared to any car in its class it’s way way higher. These things are beautiful killing machines especially when the suspension breaks and a wheel falls off!!!!!

The ultimate nightmare for the Tesla death defier
It does not appear to have been in a collision, air-bags have not deployed and there is very little damage to any of the body panels. The suspension has collapsed. The front RH suspension has totally fallen apart. The top ball joint has popped apart. This ball joint is much too flimsy for a car of this weight and performance. This car is less than a year old so the failure can not be blamed on poor maintenance or excessive mileage. Please investigate the reason why so many low mileage near new Teslas are having suspension failures.

The fright factor for all those Tesla death defiers with range anxiety
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. The front RH suspension has collapsed and the tire has the tread badly worn away which means the wheel kept rotating for some time between the suspension failure and the subsequent collision. The back LH wheel has gone completely whompy even though there is no sign of an impact at that part of the car. Teslas are having suspension failures at an alarming rate. The air suspension is prone to collapse and does not even have bump stops to limit suspension travel when problems occur. The use of cast aluminium suspension components increases the danger. Cast aluminium is not a strong material and is prone to defects caused by impurities and temperature variations during the casting process.

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Reply #190 - Jan 8^th, 2019 at 5:21am

hey jules can u give us the link to that chart, ive done a few search's and cant find the deaths listed, wow if that many lets find the articles

Although I found one where a motorcyclist is killed... the woman was speeding and had a blood alcohol level of .3 and is in jail for 10 years... is that really something that can be blamed on a car ? Wink

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Reply #191 - Jan 10^th, 2019 at 8:52am

The braindead Tweedledee is trying to sound intelligent - didn't work. Brain overheating by Global Warming and brain inflammation caused by exposure to high concentration of dangerous poisonous carbon dioxide gas has rendered the poor sole functionless.

But ignoring this defective waste of time and space and back to the TOPIC where the trolls have been soundly defeated.

Here is a Model S freshly arrived in the junkyard. It has done just 210 miles and the front wheel and suspension has simply snapped off. There is absolutely zero crash.

damage. The wheel is gouged and the tire is peeled off showing that the wheel was still rolling forward when the wheel snapped off. The fractured components are clearly.

visible in the attached photograph. This can not possibly have been caused by a collision but is simply the result of a weakness in the Tesla suspension components. This defect is putting many lives in danger.

Tesla is a pile of junk and is a dangerous hazard to other road users.

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Reply #192 - Jan 10^th, 2019 at 8:58am

Bet the North Coast reject creature crawls out again.

There are three major, practical reasons why I had to sell my Tesla Model S (original 60kWh).

I put the deposit down in October 2010. I was living in Scottsdale, Arizona in a house I owned with a two-car garage. I took possession of the vehicle in February 2013.

It’s an amazing car. At that point, I thought I’d have it for at least 10 years. Unfortunately life is dynamic, not static.

Fast forward a couple years, and I found myself moving to Denver for work. Owning an EV is far more difficult when you do not own your own garage with charging capabilities. So reason #1 I sold the Tesla was due to charging constraints.

Reason #2 is simple. The original Teslas were rear-wheel drive. Despite the advanced traction control, it was not a stable vehicle on ice or snow.

Reason #3 is probably more controversial. My car was rear-ended while parked in a lot at my gym. The rear quarter panel and bumper had to be replaced. Well, there were only two body shops in the state of Colorado that were able to work on Teslas. So right off the bat, I faced two months of waiting to get it into the shop. Then, the body shop had problems with the Tesla parts department. First they delayed shipment, then they sent a broken part. All told, the accident happened in January, and I got my car back mid-June.

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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Tesla model 3 conking out Reply #194 - Jan 10^th, 2019 at 5:39pm Silly old derelict North Coast reject Tweedledum tries to make her defeat all personal again using standard ineffective Gay Greeny attack the person tactics which don't work. Unsafe Tesla S loses back wheel and CCCRRAASSHH!!!!
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