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Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm
 
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam. Going against that trend is Greg, who has recently become obsessed with using misleading statics and blatant lies to defend Muslim terrorists from accusations that they are (shock, horror) worse than other terrorist groups who do not seek to cause mass casualties.

For the most part, Greg sticks to quoting statistics that equate 9/11 with attacks with no deaths or injuries. For example:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:48pm:
moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 3:46pm:


"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Yes - that's exactly what the Europol report says.


In other words, he is afraid to offer any opinion, meaning, or interpretation - just quotes of exactly what is said. Greg has probably made 1000 posts very similar to the above in the past month, in response to a variety of questions and criticism.

When he does attempt to think for himself, it quickly gets very stupid, for example:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 4:16pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
Nothing more than what it says Greg. It does not, for example, mean that Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world, which is something you also said, though you are ashamed to admit it now.

Do you think you are solving some kind of problem by lying to people about the problem of Islamic terrorism?


Ashamed?  Not at all.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

One more time?


His evidence for this is a website from the EU which states, among other things, that Muslim terrorists account for nearly all deaths and most of the casualties due to terrorism in the EU - despite Muslims making up less than 4% of the population. When they publish Greg's preferred statistics that treat all attacks as equal regardless of death toll, Muslims are still the standout, being the only identifiable religious, political or ideological group to get their own category.

So far, when asked to explain how causing nearly all deaths and most of the casualties even when Muslims make up just a tiny minority leads him to conclude that jihadism is not the biggest terror problem, Greg can only retreat to parroting the misleading statistics.

Greg is also too scared to offer an opinion on whether it is misleading to endlessly parrot statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with other attacks that cause no deaths or injuries.

Here is an example of his tapdancing:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.


Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?


I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.


Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?


I'm sure Yadda would agree with me when I say that every attack by terrorists is a terrorist attack.

Would you agree too, FD?



Here is Gandalf getting in on the act:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
Is 9/11 worse than a paint bomb?

Take your time Greg. Think for yourself.

What threat to freedom and democracy do you consider to be greater than Islam?


Does the Europol report mention paint bombs?

I must say, I didn't see that.

Did a word search of the document and everything.

What page number is that on?



Oh deary me, so not paintbombing, not graffiti... FD what can you invent next - litterbugs? making faces?


So basically, this is what people who defend Islam now stoop to - defending mass murder as being equivalent to attacks with no deaths or injuries.
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Re: defending terrorists with misleading statistics
Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:53pm
 
Poor old Greg and Grandalf, its all they can do now, the sinking ship comes to mind.
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Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:56pm
 
Hod the press! Gandalf has conceded that it "might" be misleading to equate 9/11 with an attack in which no-one is killed or injured.

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.


Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?


I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.


Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?


Possibly FD. Similar to pretending that actual attacks using actual bombs, including vehicle borne ones are in fact graffiti and paint bombs - wouldn't you say?

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Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:01pm
 
LIES, DAMNED LIES AND STATISTICS.

IT'S A SPIRITUAL WAR AND PEOPLE LIKE GREGGY FULLY KNOW THAT!!
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 

What lies, FD?

I'm curious.

The Europol report says that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Are you calling them liars, FD?

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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
Here's three of them:

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Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.

Islamic terrorism is not the biggest terror problem in the world.


Greg are you hoping to garner sympathy for Muslims by defending Muslim terrorists with misleading statistics?
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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
What lies, FD?

I'm curious.

The Europol report says that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Are you calling them liars, FD?



Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.

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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
This is what it takes to defend Islam.
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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
This is what it takes to defend Islam.


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.
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Gandalf must be proud to have you on board.
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Reply #10 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Gandalf must be proud to have you on board.


Is anyone proud of you, FD?

I'm curious.

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Reply #11 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam.


That's because you've banned them all.... Coincidence?

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Reply #12 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 9:08pm
 
Auggie wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
There aren't many people left who are still willing to defend Islam.


That's because you've banned them all.... Coincidence?

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Reply #13 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:28am
 
Greg is standing up for Islamic terrorism again:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 10:04am:
issuevoter wrote on Dec 30th, 2018 at 9:39am:
The SBS editorial policy is pro-Islam, and anti-European.


Fun fact: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe aren't Islamic.

In fact, they only make up 16% of all attacks.

For those who failed maths at school - which is probably most of you white-supremacist, Islamophobes - that means that 84% of terrorist attacks in Europe have nothing to do with Islam.

There ya go   Wink

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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2018 at 11:43am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
This is what it takes to defend Islam.


Waiting for your answer, FD.

Are Europol lying, or are you?

I'm still very curious.


Has FD answered you yet, Greggery?

It usually takes some time.
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