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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #75 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.

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Reply #76 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.



Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it.

Different universe of equivalency innit.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.



Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it.

Different universe of equivalency innit.  Roll Eyes


Actually, you raise a good point, Secret. You're right. While the ethno-nationalists do the most attacks, the big Jihadist attacks, by far, have resulted in the most terrorist killings.

However, something that is not listed in these figures: lone attacks, or hate crimes. These too are on the rise in Europe. The assault or murderer of individuals such as immigrants, Gypsies and even hommers, has caused untold death and injury. Hate crimes are excluded in the European terrorism figures, unlike the US.

Paki-bashing in the U.K, or in Russia, Chechen-stabbing, is a popular past-time. Attacks on immigrant businesses are also prevalent. One fact worth noting is that Russian terror attacks and hate crimes are not listed in the EU figures, but this is a huge problem there.

FD?
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Reply #78 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.



Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it.

Different universe of equivalency innit.  Roll Eyes


Actually, you raise a good point, Secret. You're right. While the ethno-nationalists do the most attacks, the big Jihadist attacks, by far, have resulted in the most terrorist killings.

However, something that is not listed in these figures: lone attacks, or hate crimes. These too are on the rise in Europe. The assault or murderer of individuals such as immigrants, Gypsies and even hommers, has caused untold death and injury. Hate crimes are excluded in the European terrorism figures, unlike the US.

Paki-bashing in the U.K, or in Russia, Chechen-stabbing, is a popular past-time. Attacks on immigrant businesses are also prevalent. One fact worth noting is that Russian terror attacks and hate crimes are not listed in the EU figures, but this is a huge problem there.

FD?


The hommer bashing is done by Muslim 'youths', as is the Jew-bashing and sexual assaulting of 'cat's meat', both seriously on the rise in Europe wherever the cultural enrichment brought by Muslim 'youths' is enjoyed.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #79 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.

BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?
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Reply #80 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.


BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?


I did not know that.

That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #81 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:59pm
 
How many people died, and will continue to die, because of 9-11?

Does greggy, our local online pretend terrorist, know the answer?

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Reply #82 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.



Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it.

Different universe of equivalency innit.  Roll Eyes


Actually, you raise a good point, Secret. You're right. While the ethno-nationalists do the most attacks, the big Jihadist attacks, by far, have resulted in the most terrorist killings.

However, something that is not listed in these figures: lone attacks, or hate crimes. These too are on the rise in Europe. The assault or murderer of individuals such as immigrants, Gypsies and even hommers, has caused untold death and injury. Hate crimes are excluded in the European terrorism figures, unlike the US.

Paki-bashing in the U.K, or in Russia, Chechen-stabbing, is a popular past-time. Attacks on immigrant businesses are also prevalent. One fact worth noting is that Russian terror attacks and hate crimes are not listed in the EU figures, but this is a huge problem there.

FD?


The hommer bashing is done by Muslim 'youths', as is the Jew-bashing and sexual assaulting of 'cat's meat', both seriously on the rise in Europe wherever the cultural enrichment brought by Muslim 'youths' is enjoyed.



Not at all, old boy. Attacks on hommers and Allah Uakbarrring Pakis are carried out by your jolly crowd, and why not?

You regularly incite fear and loathing of these groups. Pull off their veils, decry their deviancy and apologise for all those who go in with the boot.

And indeed, the FBI describes this phenomenon happening all over the USA. Now I doubt Russia would count hate crimes, but I'll bet you this phenomenon is quietly sanctioned there. You have recommended it be sanctioned here, and you have the same reactionary mentality.

Miserable, cranky and intolerant of all that's not Danish. Come to think of it, Danish is the only thing you've said here you like. Danish, and good old Mother England.

Oh, why do they refuse to assimilate?
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #83 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.


BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?


I did not know that.

That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago.

I'm a silly duffer   Roll Eyes



He's got you there, Greggery. He'll be asking you what sound a jellyfish makes next.
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Reply #84 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:24pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:59pm:
How many people died, and will continue to die, because of 9-11?

Does greggy, our local online pretend terrorist, know the answer?

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Good question, Death. The estimates are around 3000 in New York, and over 200,000 in Iraq.

Not racist. Muslims are not a race.
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Reply #85 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:39pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.

BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?


No, FD, the thwarted attacks are included in the statistics we're been discussing here. Terrorist plots are counted too.

In many ways, this only goes to show how cunning your Muselman really is. With the exception of Anders Breivik, the European terrorist death toll was largely caused by the big reported shootings and bombings. Madrid, Brussels, the London Tube, etc. Along with Breivik, they account for 97% of the death toll

Plots like the recent attempt to blow up a refugee centre in Germany, are largely foiled, as are most of the Musel ones. As the old boy says, these plots are localised, without the organisation and global reach of groups like ISIL and al Qaida. These groups also have a large stash of young men, keen to enter the afterlife.

The skinheads, bin-straighteners and good old boys don't have that. The best they can do is shiv some tinted commuter and run. Europe doesn't count that. That's classed as a hate crime, not terrorism.

Remember the prophecy though. The reactionary groups are stockpiling. As we're constantly warned by posters like Herbie, Moses, Yadda and Homo, the Muslims and their apologists will get theirs.

In the fullness of time.
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Reply #86 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:43pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:39pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.

BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?


No, FD, the thwarted attacks are included in the statistics we're been discussing here. Terrorist plots are counted too.

In many ways, this only goes to show how cunning your Muselman really is. With the exception of Anders Breivik, the European terrorist death toll was largely caused by the big reported shootings and bombings. Madrid, Brussels, the London Tube, etc. Along with Breivik, they account for 97% of the death toll

Plots like the recent attempt to blow up a refugee centre in Germany, are largely foiled, as are most of the Musel ones. As the old boy says, these plots are localised, without the organisation and global reach of groups like ISIL and al Qaida. These groups also have a large stash of young men, keen to enter the afterlife.

The skinheads, bin-straighteners and good old boys don't have that. The best they can do is shiv some tinted commuter and run.

Remember the prophecy though. The reactionary groups are stockpiling. As we're constantly warned by posters like Herbie, Moses, Yadda and Homo, the Muslims and their apologists will get theirs.

In the fullness of time.
Poor old karnal still apologising for the muslims. Deary deary me.
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Reply #87 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:50pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 3:04pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 2:37pm:
As usual in these things its informative to look a bit beyond the raw statistics which makes all events equal even those without fatalities. 

If however you look at fatalities, and from 2001 in Europe the fatalities are from Islamist attacks, 597, right wing 87, of which 77 belonged to Anders Brevik and nationalist is 46.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Europe


... until you can find something - ANYthing - to make yourself feel good about your irrational fear & hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we know dear.



Doesn't matter if you cross it out, it ain't bringing any of them back to life, it's not like graffiti where you can just paint over it.

Different universe of equivalency innit.  Roll Eyes


Actually, you raise a good point, Secret. You're right. While the ethno-nationalists do the most attacks, the big Jihadist attacks, by far, have resulted in the most terrorist killings.

However, something that is not listed in these figures: lone attacks, or hate crimes. These too are on the rise in Europe. The assault or murderer of individuals such as immigrants, Gypsies and even hommers, has caused untold death and injury. Hate crimes are excluded in the European terrorism figures, unlike the US.

Paki-bashing in the U.K, or in Russia, Chechen-stabbing, is a popular past-time. Attacks on immigrant businesses are also prevalent. One fact worth noting is that Russian terror attacks and hate crimes are not listed in the EU figures, but this is a huge problem there.

FD?


The hommer bashing is done by Muslim 'youths', as is the Jew-bashing and sexual assaulting of 'cat's meat', both seriously on the rise in Europe wherever the cultural enrichment brought by Muslim 'youths' is enjoyed.



Not at all, old boy. Attacks on hommers and Allah Uakbarrring Pakis are carried out by your jolly crowd, and why not?




You are lying, of course.


A recent Israeli Diaspora Affairs Ministry report on global antisemitism says that more than half the “refugees” in Western Europe hold antisemitic views.

In Sweden, France, Germany, the Netherlands, mass immigration has brought with it a rise in anti-Jewish attacks and intimidation.

In Paris last month an 85-year-old Shoah survivor, Mireille Knoll, was stabbed to death and her body burned by a young Muslim. Last year, a man shouting “Allahu akhbar” beat up Jewish schoolteacher Sarah Halimi and threw her to her death out of her Paris apartment window. In the Paris suburbs, French children wearing kippot or the uniform of their Jewish school have been beaten and knifed; two Jewish men were recently attacked with a hacksaw in a volley of antisemitic abuse.

BEYOND JEW-HATRED, many Muslim migrants either have extremist Islamist views or pose a threat of social violence or disorder. A German government study published in January found that male migrants may be responsible for more than 90% of the country’s recent increase in violent crime.

In Sweden, a leaked report last year revealed there were now 61 “no-go zones” where Islamist extremists had taken over. Sweden’s national police commissioner, Dan Eliasson, has pleaded “Help us, help us!” and warned that the police can no longer uphold the law.

Across Europe, the entire political establishment has for years turned a blind eye to the mass immigration of Muslims and the steady march of Islamization.

As a result of this political and cultural disenfranchisement, the people of Europe are turning to parties outside the political establishment which promise an end to uncontrolled immigration.

For this, such voters are dismissed as bigots and xenophobes. The aggressive or antisemitic behavior by many migrants is ignored or denied. Instead, those who want to stop this influx are demonized as racists and antisemites.

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/The-toxic-reality-of-antisemitism-in-Europe-549675

The jews are reporting that they are increasingly victimised by Muslims in Europe.

Who you gonna believe?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #88 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 6:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 4:23pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30th, 2018 at 8:55am:
Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.


Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.


BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?


I did not know that.

That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago.

I'm a silly duffer   Roll Eyes




Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

What do you think is the best measure of terrorist threat? Total death toll?

Does it surprise you that Muslims achieve a higher death toll even when they only make up a tiny minority?
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Reply #89 - Sep 30th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
FD, you are interpreting stats.  That is very bad and bigoted, tut tut. Western bias and Islamophobia right there.






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