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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #375 - Oct 8^th, 2018 at 6:32pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 10:26pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 10:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 9:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 9:21pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 9:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 7:20pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 4^th, 2018 at 12:41pm:

"There were 88 security-related incidents in Northern Ireland, of which 58 were shooting and 30 were bombing incidents."

Northern Ireland is in Europe but is not Europe. Local separatist security incidents (see? even your source doesn't call them terrorist attacks) are not proving that Islamic jihad in Europe is not the biggest and most significant and most widespread terrorist threat in Europe. Every Europol report confirms it. I gave you the links.

That's right.

That's exactly what I was showing Grap.

He claims that the 'incidents' were graffiti.

I showed him that they're actually bombings and shootings.

You really should pay attention.

Thank you, sh!thead - do remember where it all started: with your idiotic claim about 20 pages ago.

Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge

Indeed.

That has now been proven.

As usual, I was right.

You are arguing a trivial, pointless thing, shithead, as is your habit. Your point matters not at all. It's a distortion of what actually matters, what actually is a serious problem.

You conflate important and trivial numbers simply to downplay the importance of significance numbers that may be outnumbered by insignificant numbers. That's how stupid, dishonest and laughable you are. And you will continue with washing together the important and significant with the the trivial and irrelevant for years to come.

It is a stupid and dishonest stance, as you full-well know, but you are stupid and dishonest and have found your niche of stupid and dishonest and so you will dig in. Smart and honest are just not options for you, Turd.

Most terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

This has been confirmed by Europol.

Was there anything else?

You are arguing a trivial, pointless thing, shithead, as is your habit. Your point matters not at all. It's a distortion of what actually matters, what actually is a serious problem.

You conflate important and trivial numbers simply to downplay the importance of significance numbers that may be outnumbered by insignificant numbers. That's how stupid, dishonest and laughable you are. And you will continue with washing together the important and significant with the the trivial and irrelevant for years to come.

It is a stupid and dishonest stance, as you full-well know, but you are stupid and dishonest and have found your niche of stupid and dishonest and so you will dig in. Smart and honest are just not options for you, Turd.

You are an insolent shithead.

Was there anything else?

I have something else, dear boy. Is Greggery being dishonest when he says your stool is to die for?

Google: taqiyya. We're British.

Yes, of course, there is always stool when you and gweggy float in.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #376 - Oct 8^th, 2018 at 6:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:34am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:15am:

Greg are you saying that graffiti attacks are relevant to your terrorism statistics, but deaths due to terrorism are not?

FD, are you now admitting that graffiti attacks are not included in the statistics?

Which statistics Greg? You present different evidence every time, then spend the rest of the thread running away from it.

Which statistics, FD? You haven't provided any, remember?

Why or why not?

I'm sure he'll eventually post some, in the fullness of time.

Slip away, turd, slip away.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #377 - Oct 8^th, 2018 at 7:11pm

Frank wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:34am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:23am:

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:17am:

freediver wrote on Oct 6^th, 2018 at 11:15am:

Greg are you saying that graffiti attacks are relevant to your terrorism statistics, but deaths due to terrorism are not?

FD, are you now admitting that graffiti attacks are not included in the statistics?

Which statistics Greg? You present different evidence every time, then spend the rest of the thread running away from it.

Which statistics, FD? You haven't provided any, remember?

Why or why not?

I'm sure he'll eventually post some, in the fullness of time.

Slip away, turd, slip away.

You confirm it with your lies

Though the web that you weave can hold me

I would rather that you told me

Where you wanna be

Oooh slipping away from me

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #378 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 2:22pm

It appears that Europol is islamophobic, because I get the distinct impression they are mainly concerned with islamic terrorism.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EUremains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #379 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 2:53pm

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 2:22pm:

It appears that Europol is islamophobic, because I get the distinct impression they are mainly concerned with islamic terrorism.

EUROPOL TERRORISM

Terrorism

The overall terrorist threat to the security of the EUremains acute.

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism and the closely related phenomenon of foreign terrorist fighters who travel to and from conflict zones.

Recent attacks in the EU demonstrate the intent and capability of jihadist terrorists to inflict mass casualties on urban populations in an effort to induce a high state of well-publicised terror.

The carefully planned attacks continue to demonstrate the elevated threat to the EU from an extremist minority, operationally based in the Middle East, combined with a network of people born and raised in the EU, often radicalised within a short space of time, who have proven willing and able to act as facilitators and active accomplices in terrorism.

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism. While there was a large number of terrorist attacks not connected with jihadism, the latter accounts for the most serious forms of terrorist activity as nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Did you read the bit where they say that the Jihadist's are only responsible for 16% of attacks?

Wink

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #380 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 4:49pm So what the other attacks must be of low signifiance, why do they say that islamic terror is the major concern and perpetrator of the greatest number of fatalities and casualities? Why are the authorities mainly interested in islamic terror?
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #381 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:23pm

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 4:49pm:

So what the other attacks must be of low signifiance, why do they say that islamic terror is the major concern and perpetrator of the greatest number of fatalities and casualities?

Why are the authorities mainly interested in islamic terror?

The "authorities" here are referring to the EU member states' focus on Islamic terrorism, Moses. Europol is referring to the popular fear caused by Jihadist attacks and the high number of casualties, despite their relatively low number of attacks.

But I'm curious. Why do you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of terrorist crimes?

FD won't answer this, but I think the answer's there on the tip of your tongue, dear.

You?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #382 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:25pm I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #383 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:50pm

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Europol is referring to the popular fear caused by Jihadist attacks and the high number of casualties, despite their relatively low number of attacks.

Europol states categorically that the main concern is jihadist terrorism, they have an acute threat level.

Now I fully believe that they are saying that islamic terror is the number one terrorist threat in Europe.

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But I'm curious. Why do you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of terrorist crimes?

As I said they must be of a lot lower significance.

Europol says that islamic terror is the major threat and causes the most fatalities and injured.

Why are you trying to dance around this stated fact?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #384 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:

I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.

Define ethno-nationalism for us - is it an exclusively internal issue or is it also comprised of certain ethno-nationalistic groups seeking to bring in a foreign regime by stealth and force and to alter the pre-existing culture according to their own dictates?

Where does ethno-nationalism start and finish? With your White Aussie Surfer who has trouble with 'Bankies' at Cronulla and hits back, with your outright rabid Nationalist who is prepared to fight for the country, with those who continue to identify as their personal ethno-nationalist group after several generations or even one living in Australia?

The use of Australia as an example is an example - you do understand what example is? Or are you going to again argue perpetually about specific things within Oz without ever addressing the issue.... I do so hate to put people on the mat and ask them the hard questions, but still...

What IS your answer? and stand to attention until I tell you..............

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #385 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:25pm

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Quote:

Europol is referring to the popular fear caused by Jihadist attacks and the high number of casualties, despite their relatively low number of attacks.

Europol states categorically that the main concern is jihadist terrorism, they have an acute threat level.

Now I fully believe that they are saying that islamic terror is the number one terrorist threat in Europe.

Quote:

But I'm curious. Why do you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of terrorist crimes?

As I said they must be of a lot lower significance.

Europol says that islamic terror is the major threat and causes the most fatalities and injured.

Why are you trying to dance around this stated fact?

That's the way it's done...... dance around the issue and the facts until everyone just goes away... then think you 'won'...... won a steaming pile of absolute horse manure...

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #386 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:41pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:

I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.

Define ethno-nationalism for us - is it an exclusively internal issue or is it also comprised of certain ethno-nationalistic groups seeking to bring in a foreign regime by stealth and force and to alter the pre-existing culture according to their own dictates?

Where does ethno-nationalism start and finish? With your White Aussie Surfer who has trouble with 'Bankies' at Cronulla and hits back, with your outright rabid Nationalist who is prepared to fight for the country, with those who continue to identify as their personal ethno-nationalist group after several generations or even one living in Australia?

The use of Australia as an example is an example - you do understand what example is? Or are you going to again argue perpetually about specific things within Oz without ever addressing the issue.... I do so hate to put people on the mat and ask them the hard questions, but still...

What IS your answer? and stand to attention until I tell you..............

How many times do you want it defined?

I've given you the definition a few times, and have posted the link to the report at least a dozen times.

Read the report: it's all in there.

Jihadist's only make up 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe.

They are in the minority.

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Reply #387 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 8:01pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

moses wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 4:49pm:

So what the other attacks must be of low signifiance, why do they say that islamic terror is the major concern and perpetrator of the greatest number of fatalities and casualities?

Why are the authorities mainly interested in islamic terror?

The "authorities" here are referring to the EU member states' focus on Islamic terrorism, Moses. Europol is referring to the popular fear caused by Jihadist attacks and the high number of casualties, despite their relatively low number of attacks.

But I'm curious. Why do you refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming majority of terrorist crimes?

FD won't answer this, but I think the answer's there on the tip of your tongue, dear.

You?

You are insisting on something really stupid that only you, Bwian and karnal could insist on. You want something jaywalking in Bilbao and Belfast acknowledged as bigger issue than homicidal jihad in Europe because there are more jaywalkers than homicidal jihadists. You would argue that the atomic bombs on japan were less significant than the speeding tickets handed out between 1939 and 1945 because there were only two atomic bombs buth lots of parking tickets.

That's how stupid and dishonest you are and you will go on being stupid and dishonest for another 40 pages until you come up with another twisted idiocy and will then bang on about that for 40 pages on another thread.

And so on and so forth, as you always you, loose stool (back, Karnal, BACK!!!) McTurdface.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #388 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:

I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.

Define ethno-nationalism for us - is it an exclusively internal issue or is it also comprised of certain ethno-nationalistic groups seeking to bring in a foreign regime by stealth and force and to alter the pre-existing culture according to their own dictates?

Where does ethno-nationalism start and finish? With your White Aussie Surfer who has trouble with 'Bankies' at Cronulla and hits back, with your outright rabid Nationalist who is prepared to fight for the country, with those who continue to identify as their personal ethno-nationalist group after several generations or even one living in Australia?

The use of Australia as an example is an example - you do understand what example is? Or are you going to again argue perpetually about specific things within Oz without ever addressing the issue.... I do so hate to put people on the mat and ask them the hard questions, but still...

What IS your answer? and stand to attention until I tell you..............

How many times do you want it defined?

I've given you the definition a few times, and have posted the link to the report at least a dozen times.

Read the report: it's all in there.

Jihadist's only make up 16% of terrorist attacks in Europe.

They are in the minority.

What percentage of the body count?

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Reply #389 - Oct 9^th, 2018 at 8:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 7:41pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 9^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:

I blame ethno-nationalism, but that's just me.

Define ethno-nationalism for us - is it an exclusively internal issue or is it also comprised of certain ethno-nationalistic groups seeking to bring in a foreign regime by stealth and force and to alter the pre-existing culture according to their own dictates?

Where does ethno-nationalism start and finish? With your White Aussie Surfer who has trouble with 'Bankies' at Cronulla and hits back, with your outright rabid Nationalist who is prepared to fight for the country, with those who continue to identify as their personal ethno-nationalist group after several generations or even one living in Australia?

The use of Australia as an example is an example - you do understand what example is? Or are you going to again argue perpetually about specific things within Oz without ever addressing the issue.... I do so hate to put people on the mat and ask them the hard questions, but still...

What IS your answer? and stand to attention until I tell you..............

How many times do you want it defined?

I've given you the definition a few times

No you haven't. Nor has karnal who mentioned it a couple of times, defining it only if lumping it together with some other terms is a definition (to idiots like you two, perhaps gesticulating in certain directions is the definition of your 'thoughts').

Abos are the supreme example ethno-nationalists - First Nation, don't you know? - but that is not what you mean. You don't know what you mean. Nobody does.

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