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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #271 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 6:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 1:51pm:

The official 2018 Europol Report:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

"Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)."

[i]Failed, foiled or completed attacks by
affiliation in 2017:

- Separatist = 67%

- Jihadist = 16%

- Left-wing = 12%

- Right-wing = 3%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Do you even read your links?

The Kurds who were divided between Syria,Iran,Iraq, Turkey and Armenia are included in the separatist attacks. The founder and leader of the PKK Abdullah Ocalan is an atheist.
Harun Yahya from Turkey tells us about the Kurdish PKK-https://harun-yahya.net/en/Articles/193326/the-pkk-is-an-atheist

Can we call Saddam Hussein Al Anfal campaign to exterminate the Kurds in Iraq Islamic terror or was it just plain old Jihad since Al Anfal is what Chapter 8 in the Quran is called?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anfal_genocide

When you look at the persecution of the Kurds by muslims i wonder why they became separatists. Roll Eyes

From your link-
Quote:

In recent years there has been an increase in the
frequency of jihadist attacks, but a decrease in the
sophistication of their preparation and execution.
Jihadist attacks, however, cause more deaths and
casualties than any other terrorist attacks.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #272 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:19pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:08pm:

[quote author=greggerypeccary link=1537690684/257#257 date=1538539235]
Just in case anyone missed it.

From the official 2018 Europol Report:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations."

General statement.... list please... a little precision and not just a politicised statement...

Get the difference?

When you find a list of actual events, the real picture emerges from under the pile of political covering....

Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?

Circles within circles, dear.... and sometimes the security services downplay their real targets by throwing some chum into the waters to draw all the other predators..... or distract from the fact that they really want that one big shark ......

Circles within circles.... once you're in you're never out, and once you're out you were never in......

Another one for your goalpost list, Greggery.

The separatists are Muslims.

Circles within circles, no? [/quote]

There you go again - I never said Muslim poo-heads were separatists - I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WERE VIEWED AS SUCH.

Do you know the difference between a statement and a question? Do you have one idea?

Try to keep up, difficult though it is for morons like you.

Perhaps you could try again...

"Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?"

You do read English, don't you? Idiot!

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #273 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:01pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 3:17pm:

Not at all, Greggery. Grappler's theory is that those ethno-nationalists and separatists are Muslims too.

Not racist, of course. Ethnos are not a race.

The latest theory? How do we know Whitey's not just putting up graffiti? If we don't have a list, we can't be sure.

So, add the separatists to the Jihadist list, and we're up to about 90% - in the Moslems' favour. And Whitey's 10% is just a few acts of graffiti, nothing to worry about.

Problem solved, leftards.

Liar.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #274 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:09pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

There you go again - I never said Muslim poo-heads were separatists - I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WERE VIEWED AS SUCH.

"Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?"

The Islamic state carved out a large chunk of Syria and Iraq to form the Islamic state, i guess we could consider that a separatist movement.

Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shaabab in Somalia and the Taliban should be considered separatist movements as well.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #275 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 1:51pm:

The official 2018 Europol Report:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

"Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)."

Failed, foiled or completed attacks by
affiliation in 2017:

- Separatist = 67%

- Jihadist = 16%

- Left-wing = 12%

- Right-wing = 3%

- N/S = 2%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Strange. Not one graffiti attack on the list. Why would that be?

Don't be facetious - doesn't say what form the attacks took...

LIST!! You cannot posit an argument without supporting fact, no matter how hard you try....

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations."

Jihadists = 16%

All other forms of terrorism = 84%

Just as I've been saying all along: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Or, are you now going to suggest that Europol is lying - it's all one big conspiracy?

Simple enough - provide a list - same as I did.... and make sure you include the time period - we are not interested in the IRA fifty years ago... Roll Eyes

We are discussing here and now and for the sake of genuine discussion - let's make it 2018, the year.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #276 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:14pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:09pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

There you go again - I never said Muslim poo-heads were separatists - I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WERE VIEWED AS SUCH.

"Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?"

The Islamic state carved out a large chunk of Syria and Iraq to form the Islamic state, i guess we could consider that a separatist movement.

Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shaabab in Somalia and the Taliban should be considered separatist movements as well.

What does that have to do with terrorist acts, which are clearly defined? A civil war need not have terrorist acts in it... you cannot simple isolate separatism and terrorism - you need to look at how the separatism is forwarded.... and whether or not it involves actual terrorist acts and not para-military ones.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #277 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:58pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 2:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 1:51pm:

The official 2018 Europol Report:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

"Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)."

Failed, foiled or completed attacks by
affiliation in 2017:

- Separatist = 67%

- Jihadist = 16%

- Left-wing = 12%

- Right-wing = 3%

- N/S = 2%

EUROPEAN UNION TERRORISM SITUATION AND TREND REPORT 2018 (TESAT 2018)

Strange. Not one graffiti attack on the list. Why would that be?

Don't be facetious - doesn't say what form the attacks took...

LIST!! You cannot posit an argument without supporting fact, no matter how hard you try....

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or motivations."

Jihadists = 16%

All other forms of terrorism = 84%

Just as I've been saying all along: the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Or, are you now going to suggest that Europol is lying - it's all one big conspiracy?

Simple enough - provide a list - same as I did.... and make sure you include the time period - we are not interested in the IRA fifty years ago... Roll Eyes

We are discussing here and now and for the sake of genuine discussion - let's make it 2018, the year.

You supplied an incomplete list, from Wiki. Lol Grin

The official 2018 Europol Report:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

"Most terrorist attacks carried out in the EU in 2017 were specified as separatist attacks (137 out of 205)."

You see, I was right all along: the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #278 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 8:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:09pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

There you go again - I never said Muslim poo-heads were separatists - I ASKED THE QUESTION IF THEY WERE VIEWED AS SUCH.

"Do you consider the attempt to install Islamic ways a 'separatist' movement? Perhaps the European police do.... you need to be more specific. What about North African (Muslims) continuing their war against France? Is that an ongoing separatist movement... or just an Islamic movement?"

The Islamic state carved out a large chunk of Syria and Iraq to form the Islamic state, i guess we could consider that a separatist movement.

Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shaabab in Somalia and the Taliban should be considered separatist movements as well.

Except that Africa's not in Europe. Separatists include Basque, Russian Ukraneans and the Irish, who are still at it, according to the EU report.

Turkey's not in the EU, so it's a mystery to me why the report mentions separatist Kurds.

You?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #279 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 8:14pm

What is the spread of the 'ethno-nationalist' terror attacks, Turd? (Basque and Irish - the rest of the EU can do NOTHING about).

What is the spread of the jihadist terrorists - they are pretty much everywhere that Muslims have been allowed in BECAUSE the EU could have done something about them but did not.

But we all know that this far too complex and higher-order thinking for you, Turd - common sense was something you never progressed to - but there it is. You are going to bang on about an irrelevance because that's all you are up to. Bwian is pwoud of you.

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Reply #280 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 8:17pm

Frank wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 8:14pm:

What is the spread of the 'ethno-nationalist' terror attacks, Turd? (Basque and Irish - the rest of the EU can do NOTHING about).

What is the spread of the jihadist terrorists - they are pretty much everywhere that Muslims have been allowed in BECAUSE the EU could have done something about them but did not.

But we all know that this far too complex and higher-order thinking for you, Turd - common sense was something you never progressed to - but there it is. You are going to bang on about an irrelevance because that's all you are up to. Bwian is pwoud of you.

The majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Read the official 2018 Europol Report, and see for yourself.

If you think the stats are wrong, take it up with them.

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Reply #281 - Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 8:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2018 at 7:58pm: