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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #225 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:54am
 
So true. Most terror attacks are caused by white male Christians such as Yadda. Oh, I'm more than convinced he is a sleeping cell terrorist just waiting on that phone call.
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Reply #226 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:17am
 
its an interesting pre-supposition.

the islamic faith is a belief system.
we need belief systems.
the world is so complex that you have to have a belief system or else you just get overwhelmed.
and if you get overwhelmed you become anxious and nihilistic and the cortisol and adrenaline that this causes demolishes your health.

so EVERYONE has a belief system.

but what if we have 2 groups with different belief systems.
say russia and the USA circa 1960.
well that nearly ended in the demolition of the planet so its a difficult thing to have 2 opposing belief systems that can peacefully occupy the same space.

can islam peacefully occupy the same space with the west.
good question.
maybe, but maybe not.
if they are going to then there is going to have to be dialogue.

and thats where the left get it all wrong.
the left dont understand that the only way to have dialogue is for people to be able to engage in free speech and say exactly what they think.
they cant just be shut down and labelled racist or misogynist or whatever and then the dialogue ended.

thats actually a bigger problem.

the radical left, they dont want to hear from the right AT ALL.
they just want to silence them with legislation.
and the blow back is that the right are now falling for this belief system as well.

both the right and the left are now playing identity politics and people are fracturing along tribal lines.

and when they cant speak to each other (and they cant becuase the left will not engage in dialogue with the right), then all that is left is to fight.

charlottesville is a much more worrying event then the muslim issue.

most muslims have a good belief system based on family and respect for parents etc.

the left are nihilistic and lost and the new marxism of the left sees everyone as oppressor or victim.
AND the oppressors are not allowed to talk becuase that legitimises their power.
its seriously not good.

this identity politics as played by obama and clinton led to the blowback that elected trump.
and the left and the right cannot talk.

you just try and have a conversation with marla or karnal or gweg.
its never going to happen.
and with this "free speech" shut down, all there is left is to fight.
lucky the nihilistic left dont have nukes in my opinion  Wink
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Reply #227 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 9:30am
 
Marla wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:54am:
So true. Most terror attacks are caused by white male Christians such as Yadda. Oh, I'm more than convinced he is a sleeping cell terrorist just waiting on that phone call. 


Wouldn't surprise me if we had a few of those little cowards in here.

No need to name names - everyone knows who I'm talking about.

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Reply #228 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:23am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:21am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Pessary 'thinks' (if he's capable of thought) that by repeating the same cr@p over and over again he will convince people that what he spews is true..........as usual he's WRONG!



Who is Greggy with?





You know, son? I'd say anyone who excuses killers is on their side.

No one here has excused or minimised Islamicist terrorism. We've even shown the stats that it causes the most terror-related casualties.

But to minimise white supremacists, violent hate crimes, Paki and hommer bashers, and plots to kill refugees on mass, is unredeemable. Those who do this here remain unrepentant. Those who pretend these crimes equate to internet posts or graffiti are no more than jellyfish.

Homo, Matty, Grappler, the old boy, and good old FD - these types support white European terrorists. How do we know?

They refuse to even acknowledge they exist. Why?

Because they are part of the plot to ban them, kill them, cesterete them.

Which side are you on?


Open your ears, boy!

WHEN THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT MUSLIM TERRORIST ACTIONS THAT ACTUALLY KILL PEOPLE ETC, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT SOMEHOW THE PRESENCE OF OTHER GROUPS HAS ANY RELEVANCE TO THE DISCUSSION.   IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 'OTHER' TERRORISM - OPEN A STRAND ON THAT SPECIFIC GROUP!

BUT STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY ARGUING ENDLESSLY WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR VIEW, AND THE REALITY IS THAT MUSLIMS IN THIS YEAR CARRIED OUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND CAUSED BY VERY FAR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF DEATHS AND INJURIES.

Now where's my apology for your personal jibes at me, honkie?

Just saying - "You were right all along, MR Grappler, and we're sorry for attacking you personally for stating the bleedingly obvious",  will do for now..... but neither you nor greg have the guts to say that....



Did you see the thread title?

"Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem"

Yes.  Yes they are.
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #229 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear?

Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe.

Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe?

Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD.

Is it because you know the answers already, dear?


Apology required.

2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.

You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper.


Apology required.

3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list.

Apology required


That time of the month is it, love?

There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread.


Too hormonal.


No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? 

Gutless little turd.

At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. no guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games.

Adios, muchacho...
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #230 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:54am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:23am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:21am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Oct 2nd, 2018 at 12:38pm:
Pessary 'thinks' (if he's capable of thought) that by repeating the same cr@p over and over again he will convince people that what he spews is true..........as usual he's WRONG!



Who is Greggy with?





You know, son? I'd say anyone who excuses killers is on their side.

No one here has excused or minimised Islamicist terrorism. We've even shown the stats that it causes the most terror-related casualties.

But to minimise white supremacists, violent hate crimes, Paki and hommer bashers, and plots to kill refugees on mass, is unredeemable. Those who do this here remain unrepentant. Those who pretend these crimes equate to internet posts or graffiti are no more than jellyfish.

Homo, Matty, Grappler, the old boy, and good old FD - these types support white European terrorists. How do we know?

They refuse to even acknowledge they exist. Why?

Because they are part of the plot to ban them, kill them, cesterete them.

Which side are you on?


Open your ears, boy!

WHEN THE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT MUSLIM TERRORIST ACTIONS THAT ACTUALLY KILL PEOPLE ETC, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT SOMEHOW THE PRESENCE OF OTHER GROUPS HAS ANY RELEVANCE TO THE DISCUSSION.   IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS 'OTHER' TERRORISM - OPEN A STRAND ON THAT SPECIFIC GROUP!

BUT STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME AND ENERGY ARGUING ENDLESSLY WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR VIEW, AND THE REALITY IS THAT MUSLIMS IN THIS YEAR CARRIED OUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF ATTACKS IN EUROPE AND CAUSED BY VERY FAR THE GREATEST NUMBER OF DEATHS AND INJURIES.

Now where's my apology for your personal jibes at me, honkie?

Just saying - "You were right all along, MR Grappler, and we're sorry for attacking you personally for stating the bleedingly obvious",  will do for now..... but neither you nor greg have the guts to say that....



Did you see the thread title?

"Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem"

Yes.  Yes they are.


You're as bad a reader as that idiot Karnal, aren't you?  I posted facts for you  for 2018 - that's 'today' by any standard - that clearly show the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe 'today' are by Muslims.

How many times must it be explained to you - yet you persist with the same lies.
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Reply #231 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear?

Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe.

Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe?

Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD.

Is it because you know the answers already, dear?


Apology required.

2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.

You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper.


Apology required.

3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list.

Apology required


That time of the month is it, love?

There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread.

Too hormonal.


No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? 

Gutless little turd.

At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. not guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games.

Adios, muchacho...


I've backed away from nothing.

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.

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Reply #232 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am
 
I apologise to the board for saying greg was better than Karnal - both are persisting with the lies that most terrorist attacks today are perpetrated by non-Moslems... when the facts have been presented to show that for 2018 - today - that is false.
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Reply #233 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:58am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear?

Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe.

Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe?

Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD.

Is it because you know the answers already, dear?


Apology required.

2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.

You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper.


Apology required.

3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list.

Apology required


That time of the month is it, love?

There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread.

Too hormonal.


No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? 

Gutless little turd.

At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. not guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games.

Adios, muchacho...


I've backed away from nothing.

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.





You stated Europe and you stated 'today' - you are wrong...

Most terrorist attacks in Europe today are carried out by Muslims, and for that matter in the rest of the world today.
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #234 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:17am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear?

Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe.

Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe?

Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD.

Is it because you know the answers already, dear?


Apology required.

2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.

You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper.


Apology required.

3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list.

Apology required


That time of the month is it, love?

There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread.

Too hormonal.


No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? 

Gutless little turd.

At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. not guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games.

Adios, muchacho...


I've backed away from nothing.

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.




Disproven - move on.
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Reply #235 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:58am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:56am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:52am:
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 1:00am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:32am:
1)You haven't read these reports have you, dear?

Strange. One is the EU's own 2017 report on terrorism in Europe.

Who'd ignore that? In a thread about terrorism in Europe?

Let's see: Homo, Grappler, Matty, the old boy - oh, and FD.

Is it because you know the answers already, dear?


Apology required.

2) There's a new one, Greggery. We've moved onto worldwide terrorism.

You might want to post that in Issue's cheery Muslim anniversary thread, Grapper.


Apology required.

3)Let's stick with European terrorism, dear. It's not currently at war, like many of the countries in your list.

Apology required


That time of the month is it, love?

There there, we understand. You can't be bothered reading the links in this thread.

Too hormonal.


No apology for being totally wrong and for throwing jibes at me, then, coward? 

Gutless little turd.

At least greg has backed away from that nonsense in the light of truth thrown on the issue raised - that most terrorist attacks are in fact carried out by terrorists 'today' in Europe - but you're hardly a man, are you.. not guts to say you were wrong and apologise for your silly games.

Adios, muchacho...


I've backed away from nothing.

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.





You stated Europe and you stated 'today' - you are wrong...

Most terrorist attacks in Europe today are carried out by Muslims, and for that matter in the rest of the world today.


That's not true.

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Reply #236 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:36am
 
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:54am:
You're as bad a reader as that idiot Karnal, aren't you?  I posted facts for you  for 2018 - that's 'today' by any standard - that clearly show the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe 'today' are by Muslims.

How many times must it be explained to you - yet you persist with the same lies.


You posted extracts from incomplete lists on Wiki.

You'll see that they actually admit:

- "This is a list of some of the terrorist, alleged terrorist or suspected terrorist incidents which took place in January 2018 ...", and;

- "Note that terrorism related to drug wars and cartel violence is not included in these lists."

The information you provided is not a comprehensive list of all terrorist attacks.

If you had listed the complete list you would see that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.
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Reply #237 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:42am
 
aquascoot wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:17am:
its an interesting pre-supposition.

the islamic faith is a belief system.
we need belief systems.
the world is so complex that you have to have a belief system or else you just get overwhelmed.
and if you get overwhelmed you become anxious and nihilistic and the cortisol and adrenaline that this causes demolishes your health.

so EVERYONE has a belief system.

but what if we have 2 groups with different belief systems.
say russia and the USA circa 1960.
well that nearly ended in the demolition of the planet so its a difficult thing to have 2 opposing belief systems that can peacefully occupy the same space.

can islam peacefully occupy the same space with the west.
good question.
maybe, but maybe not.
if they are going to then there is going to have to be dialogue.

and thats where the left get it all wrong.
the left dont understand that the only way to have dialogue is for people to be able to engage in free speech and say exactly what they think.
they cant just be shut down and labelled racist or misogynist or whatever and then the dialogue ended.

thats actually a bigger problem.

the radical left, they dont want to hear from the right AT ALL.
they just want to silence them with legislation.
and the blow back is that the right are now falling for this belief system as well.

both the right and the left are now playing identity politics and people are fracturing along tribal lines.

and when they cant speak to each other (and they cant becuase the left will not engage in dialogue with the right), then all that is left is to fight.

charlottesville is a much more worrying event then the muslim issue.

most muslims have a good belief system based on family and respect for parents etc.

the left are nihilistic and lost and the new marxism of the left sees everyone as oppressor or victim.
AND the oppressors are not allowed to talk becuase that legitimises their power.
its seriously not good.

this identity politics as played by obama and clinton led to the blowback that elected trump.
and the left and the right cannot talk.

you just try and have a conversation with marla or karnal or gweg.
its never going to happen.
and with this "free speech" shut down, all there is left is to fight.
lucky the nihilistic left dont have nukes in my opinion  Wink


Yes, Aquascoot, but what the knuckleheads are proposing here is that the conservative belief system, Islam, is responsible for more terrorist attacks than anarchists, national separatists and white nationalists.

When it was proven to be the opposite, they showed that the conservative Islam is responsible for more killings.

And all we've had since is a fight.
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #238 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:59am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:36am:
Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 10:54am:
You're as bad a reader as that idiot Karnal, aren't you?  I posted facts for you  for 2018 - that's 'today' by any standard - that clearly show the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe 'today' are by Muslims.

How many times must it be explained to you - yet you persist with the same lies.


You posted extracts from incomplete lists on Wiki.

You'll see that they actually admit:

- "This is a list of some of the terrorist, alleged terrorist or suspected terrorist incidents which took place in January 2018 ...", and;

- "Note that terrorism related to drug wars and cartel violence is not included in these lists."

The information you provided is not a comprehensive list of all terrorist attacks.

If you had listed the complete list you would see that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.


Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The link has the worldwide list - the articles listed at the top of my post are ALL such acts in Europe in 2018 - not just 'Muslim' ones.... the Muslim ones are in red and and Muslims win by a country mile in both number and casualties.

Stop obfuscating - you lost.

If you wish to challenge Wiki's list - post your own list with link(s)......

I'll try again - list every terrorist incident in Europe in 2018 ('today') - and posit which group it comes from.... as Wikipedia has done.....

You can't continue to rely on blind utterances to uphold your position..... try evidence and not just blind links that ramble about some generalised concept... specific list...

On the clear evidence for 2018, Muslim terrorist acts far out-weigh all other, singly or combined.

Muslims are deep into the drug wars and cartel wars?  Wow..... makes a huge difference then, greg..  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
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Reply #239 - Oct 3rd, 2018 at 12:03pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 11:42am:
aquascoot wrote on Oct 3rd, 2018 at 6:17am:
its an interesting pre-supposition.

the islamic faith is a belief system.
we need belief systems.
the world is so complex that you have to have a belief system or else you just get overwhelmed.
and if you get overwhelmed you become anxious and nihilistic and the cortisol and adrenaline that this causes demolishes your health.

so EVERYONE has a belief system.

but what if we have 2 groups with different belief systems.
say russia and the USA circa 1960.
well that nearly ended in the demolition of the planet so its a difficult thing to have 2 opposing belief systems that can peacefully occupy the same space.

can islam peacefully occupy the same space with the west.
good question.
maybe, but maybe not.
if they are going to then there is going to have to be dialogue.

and thats where the left get it all wrong.
the left dont understand that the only way to have dialogue is for people to be able to engage in free speech and say exactly what they think.
they cant just be shut down and labelled racist or misogynist or whatever and then the dialogue ended.

thats actually a bigger problem.

the radical left, they dont want to hear from the right AT ALL.
they just want to silence them with legislation.
and the blow back is that the right are now falling for this belief system as well.

both the right and the left are now playing identity politics and people are fracturing along tribal lines.

and when they cant speak to each other (and they cant becuase the left will not engage in dialogue with the right), then all that is left is to fight.

charlottesville is a much more worrying event then the muslim issue.

most muslims have a good belief system based on family and respect for parents etc.

the left are nihilistic and lost and the new marxism of the left sees everyone as oppressor or victim.
AND the oppressors are not allowed to talk becuase that legitimises their power.
its seriously not good.

this identity politics as played by obama and clinton led to the blowback that elected trump.
and the left and the right cannot talk.

you just try and have a conversation with marla or karnal or gweg.
its never going to happen.
and with this "free speech" shut down, all there is left is to fight.
lucky the nihilistic left dont have nukes in my opinion  Wink


Yes, Aquascoot, but what the knuckleheads are proposing here is that the conservative belief system, Islam, is responsible for more terrorist attacks than anarchists, national separatists and white nationalists.

When it was proven to be the opposite, they showed that the conservative Islam is responsible for more killings.

And all we've had since is a fight.


greg specified Europe and 'today' - nobody mentioned the US in terms of overall terrorist acts - but worldwide the Muslims are leading in 2018, anyway.... and just because the West has better security services and arrests more (there is a chart of arrest for terrorism which Muslims also lead), doesn't mean that Muslims are minority terrorists in 2018.

You need aso to get your mind around simple things - in war a soldier can still be charged with murder - in any war, a terrorist act remains a terrorist act... simply citing that a country at war mitigates terrorism is not valid.

When a suicide bomber in Kabul attacks a wedding party and kills 82 civilians - that is clearly an act of terrorism and not of war.... get it right.
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