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Tim Neanderthal Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 187 White Hole Gender:	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #135 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:15pm Most terror attacks in Europe nowadays, non-communist. But see somewhere, sometimes, most are.
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #136 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:07pm:

wiki first paragraph-

Islam is the fourth-largest religion in Ukraine, representing 0.6%–0.9% of the population.[1][2] The religion has a long history in Ukraine dating back to the establishment of the Crimean Khanate in the 15th century.
Sunni Islam of the Hanafi school is the largest non-Christian religion in Ukraine, and the majority of Ukrainian Muslims are Crimean Tatars. Other Turkic peoples indigenous to Ukraine, predominantly found in South and south-east Ukraine, practice other forms of Islam. These include Volga Tatars, Azeris, North Caucasian ethnic groups and Uzbeks.[2] In 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine, including 300,000 Crimean Tatars.[3]

Half a million is "hardly any"?

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Well considering a load of them live in the part of Ukraine which is no longer controlled by Ukraine it is.

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Reply #137 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:20pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:07pm:

wiki first paragraph-

Islam is the fourth-largest religion in Ukraine, representing 0.6%–0.9% of the population.[1][2] The religion has a long history in Ukraine dating back to the establishment of the Crimean Khanate in the 15th century.
Sunni Islam of the Hanafi school is the largest non-Christian religion in Ukraine, and the majority of Ukrainian Muslims are Crimean Tatars. Other Turkic peoples indigenous to Ukraine, predominantly found in South and south-east Ukraine, practice other forms of Islam. These include Volga Tatars, Azeris, North Caucasian ethnic groups and Uzbeks.[2] In 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine, including 300,000 Crimean Tatars.[3]

Half a million is "hardly any"?

Grin

Well considering a load of them live in the part of Ukraine which is no longer controlled by Ukraine it is.

How many times do you want to shift those goal posts, Homo?

First it was "I meant hardly any".

Now it's "I meant controlled by".

Get ya hand off it, tosser Grin

Anyway, back to my point the facts:

- the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #138 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:20pm Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:15pm: Most terror attacks in Europe nowadays, non-communist. But see somewhere, sometimes, most are. The last 7 of 8 terrorist attacks in Germany have been by Muslims and Pecca believes they are being picked on?
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Reply #139 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:20pm:

Tim Neanderthal wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:15pm:

Most terror attacks in Europe nowadays, non-communist.

But see somewhere, sometimes, most are. Sad

The last 7 of 8 terrorist attacks in Germany have been by Muslims and Pecca believes they are being picked on?

We're not discussing who carried out the latest attacks.

We're discussing the total number of attacks.

And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

(how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?)

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #140 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:25pm The last 17 terrorist attacks in France have all been Muslims and Pecca still believes they are being picked on???
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Reply #141 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:25pm:

The last 17 terrorist attacks in France have all been Muslims and Pecca still believes they are being picked on???

We're not discussing who carried out the latest attacks.

We're discussing the total number of attacks.

And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

(how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?)

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #142 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:34pm Since 2010 40 UK citizens have been killed and 307 wounded by Islamic nutjobs. The other forms of terrorism have accounted for 3 deaths??? And Pecca still believes Muslims are being picked on???
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Reply #143 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:37pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:34pm:

Since 2010 40 UK citizens have been killed and 307 wounded by Islamic nutjobs. The other forms of terrorism have accounted for 3 deaths??? And Pecca still believes Muslims are being picked on???

We're not discussing deaths.

We're discussing the total number of terrorist attacks.

And, the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

(how many times can you move those goal posts, Homo?)

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Reply #144 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:39pm

freediver wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:10am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 5:08pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 8:55am:

Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.

Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.

BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?

I did not know that.

That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago.

I'm a silly duffer Roll Eyes

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

What do you think is the best measure of terrorist threat? Total death toll?

Does it surprise you that Muslims achieve a higher death toll even when they only make up a tiny minority?

Best measure?

As Yadda will gladly tell you, every terrorist is a terrorist.

Why have you suddenly introduced death tolls?

That's not what we were discussing.

It's almost as if you're trying to steer the conversation away from the fact that the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

Of course, you'd never stoop that low, would you?

I'm happy to discuss European terror statistics if you want. I didn't make you bring up the American stats.

What do you think is more important, the number of separate attacks, or the death toll?

Would you for example place any significance in a statistic that equated 9/11 with an attack in which a single person died?

Is this why it took you so long long to produce any evidence, and why you always produce different evidence?

Excuse me, FD, there seems to be some confusion here. Could you just clarify which group conducts the most terrorist attacks in Europe?

Cheers.

Which class of terrorism has killed the most people since 9/11 karnal? That's what you should be asking.

Why?

That's not what we're discussing.

You love changing the subject when you're losing an argument, don't you Homo?

Greg why are you afraid to discuss the very statistic that you keep bringing up and which is the topic of this thread?

FD, why are you so afraid to write down which group carries out the most act of terrorism?

I'm concerned for you. I can sense your fear. What's your strategy for dealing with it?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #145 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism.

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly.

Oh, Homo...

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #146 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:41pm Keep apologising cretins. I feel sorry for those littles girls blown apart at that pop concert.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51355 At my desk.	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #147 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:42pm Greg what value would you place in a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death?
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Reply #148 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:45pm

freediver wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:42pm:

Greg what value would you place in a statistic that equates 9/11 with a single death?

A big difference Pecca and Karnal overlook is that other forms of current terrorism usually target a certain group or person. The Islamic nutjobs target anybody. It puts it in a category all it's own.

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Reply #149 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:41pm:

Keep apologising cretins. I feel sorry for those littles girls blown apart at that pop concert.

Apologising?

I've said on dozens of occasions that I unconditionally and unreservedly condemn all terrorists.

You and your fellow conservatives, however, only ever condemn Islamic terrorists.

I wonder why.

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