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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #120 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 2:32am

Look again at the definitions of 'terrorist act' and 'terrorist incident'... and stop confusing the two.... and stop piling the two together to create a false impression, like Peccary does.

Bloody amateurs....

There are real men out there who have to take the real bastards down - they have funny hairdos and often wild moustaches and sideburns.... but they're men who know the difference.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #121 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 2:33am

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 11:12pm:

But the white supremacist bin-straighteners are murdering the tinted races to keep us on our toes.

We know you support banning and carpetbombing them, old boy. You've said this many times. But do you concur with your white nationalist brothers from the north?

Ban them? Kill them? Cesterete them?

So bombing a bunch of arseholes who kill more of their own to reduce their killing of their own is now the same as allowing the same arseholes to kill innocent people everywhere?

Get a life, man....

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #122 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 6:07am

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 8:11pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:38pm:

So how many people have the skinheads killed in Europe Karnal? If you want to take that line then provide some facts. The time for broad statements is over.

Greggy has to decide -

You're either with us

or you're with the terrorists.

Which ones, Bobby? The minority, or...?

Let Greggy tell us:

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #123 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:10am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:20pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:17pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:15pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 5:08pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 8:55am:

Majority of terrorists who have attacked America are not Muslim, new study finds

"Most of the designated terrorist groups in the US are right-wing extremists, not Muslim, according to a new report.

"A joint project by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute, a nonprofit media centre, and news outlet Reveal from the Center for Investigative Reporting took a look at the 201 designated terrorism incidents within the US from 2008 to 2016.

The results: “right-wing extremists were behind nearly twice as many incidents” as terror acts associated with those identified as “Islamist domestic terrorism”.

Greg, from your own link:

More people died in the Islamist incidents, a total of 90 due to mass shootings like the one in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009.

And this from a country with a tiny Muslim minority, covering a time period that excludes 9/11.

Would it be fair to conclude that even among terrorists, Muslims set a new low?

Also, far more Islamist attacks were thwarted by police.

BTW, did you know that America is not Europe?

I did not know that.

That would probably explain why I couldn't find the Eiffel Tower the last time I was in Chicago.

I'm a silly duffer Roll Eyes

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

What do you think is the best measure of terrorist threat? Total death toll?

Does it surprise you that Muslims achieve a higher death toll even when they only make up a tiny minority?

Best measure?

As Yadda will gladly tell you, every terrorist is a terrorist.

Why have you suddenly introduced death tolls?

That's not what we were discussing.

It's almost as if you're trying to steer the conversation away from the fact that the majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

Of course, you'd never stoop that low, would you?

I'm happy to discuss European terror statistics if you want. I didn't make you bring up the American stats.

What do you think is more important, the number of separate attacks, or the death toll?

Would you for example place any significance in a statistic that equated 9/11 with an attack in which a single person died?

Is this why it took you so long long to produce any evidence, and why you always produce different evidence?

Excuse me, FD, there seems to be some confusion here. Could you just clarify which group conducts the most terrorist attacks in Europe?

Cheers.

Which class of terrorism has killed the most people since 9/11 karnal? That's what you should be asking.

Why?

That's not what we're discussing.

You love changing the subject when you're losing an argument, don't you Homo?

Greg why are you afraid to discuss the very statistic that you keep bringing up and which is the topic of this thread?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #124 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

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Reply #125 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #126 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism.

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #127 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:44am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism.

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly.

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #129 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:58am

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance [highlight]doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism. [/highlight]

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly.

You said there were no Muslims there.

Now you're saying there's half a million.

Which is it?

I'm curious.

Oh, and in case you were wondering:

"Ukraine has around 1 million Muslims ..." (2016)

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Reply #130 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance [highlight]doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism. [/highlight]

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly.

You said there were no Muslims there.

Now you're saying there's half a million.

Which is it?

I'm curious.

Oh, and in case you were wondering:

"Ukraine has around 1 million Muslims ..." (2016)

That's according to some Sheik Pecca. I wrote the wrong thing accidently. I meant there is hardly any Muslims there. I'll cop it on the chin. Like it said, you need to take it on a individual country basis. When they mention Australian Islamic Terrorism they don't call it Australasian Islamic Terrorism. It's not too much to ask.

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Reply #131 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:05pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism.

So, these people are really Christians then?

"Over 30 Ukrainian Muslims’ religious and social organisations that had their signatures already listed under the Ukrainian Muslims Charter, signed Ukrainian Muslims Social Conception (UMSC) on 11 December 2017."

MUSLIMS OF UKRAINE

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Reply #132 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:07pm

wiki first paragraph-

Islam is the fourth-largest religion in Ukraine, representing 0.6%–0.9% of the population.[1][2] The religion has a long history in Ukraine dating back to the establishment of the Crimean Khanate in the 15th century.
Sunni Islam of the Hanafi school is the largest non-Christian religion in Ukraine, and the majority of Ukrainian Muslims are Crimean Tatars. Other Turkic peoples indigenous to Ukraine, predominantly found in South and south-east Ukraine, practice other forms of Islam. These include Volga Tatars, Azeris, North Caucasian ethnic groups and Uzbeks.[2] In 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine, including 300,000 Crimean Tatars.[3]

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Reply #133 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:07pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:58am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:44am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:15am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 11:07am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 8:29am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

No, it's not, Homo. The question asked by Yadda is how many terrorist attacks are non-Moslem? He was saying how evil Greggery is for quoting European statistics.

Now, here's a question that goes to your willingness to tell the truth. FD won't do it, nor will the old boy. Who conducts the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe?

You don't have to look too hard. Greggery has already provided the answer.

You can't look at Europe as a whole Karnal. Individual countries have different issues. The Ukraine for instance [highlight]doesn't have Muslims. So it doesn't have Islamic terrorism. [/highlight]

Apart from the 1 million Muslims living there (and the 160 or so Mosques).

Oh, and it's Ukraine - not The Ukraine.

It isn't 1 million. Try halving that. Give up. You look silly.

You said there were no Muslims there.

Now you're saying there's half a million.

Which is it?

I'm curious.

Oh, and in case you were wondering:

"Ukraine has around 1 million Muslims ..." (2016)

That's according to some Sheik Pecca. I wrote the wrong thing accidently. I meant there is hardly any Muslims there. I'll cop it on the chin. Like it said, you need to take it on a individual country basis. When they mention Australian Islamic Terrorism they don't call it Australasian Islamic Terrorism. It's not too much to ask.

I originally said the western world, and I'm right.

The majority of terrorist attacks in the western world are carried out by non-Muslims.

This is an undeniable fact.

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Reply #134 - Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:09pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 1^st, 2018 at 12:07pm:

wiki first paragraph-

Islam is the fourth-largest religion in Ukraine, representing 0.6%–0.9% of the population.[1][2] The religion has a long history in Ukraine dating back to the establishment of the Crimean Khanate in the 15th century.
Sunni Islam of the Hanafi school is the largest non-Christian religion in Ukraine, and the majority of Ukrainian Muslims are Crimean Tatars. Other Turkic peoples indigenous to Ukraine, predominantly found in South and south-east Ukraine, practice other forms of Islam. These include Volga Tatars, Azeris, North Caucasian ethnic groups and Uzbeks.[2] In 2012 an estimated 500,000 Muslims lived in Ukraine, including 300,000 Crimean Tatars.[3]

Half a million is "hardly any"?

Grin

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