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Reply #30 - Oct 8th, 2018 at 9:53pm
 
juliar wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
All the shrunken head of the thick and sick troll can do is chunder out spamming irrelevant ridiculous retarded rubbish.


I'll give you a shrunken head socko. Why don't you turn your narrow arse around and head back under your floorboards along with the rest of the LNP swill.
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Reply #31 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:31am
 
Hey socko, put this in your pipe and smoke it you dickhead Cheesy LOL

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Reply #32 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:03pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:31am:
Hey socko, put this in your pipe and smoke it you dickhead



How many houses would one of them power?

Oh that's right they need a house or other power source to power them.
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Reply #33 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:09pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:31am:
Hey socko, put this in your pipe and smoke it you dickhead



How many houses would one of them power?

Oh that's right they need a house or other power source to power them.


why would u want to power a house with a car Lee ?
I usually travel in my vehicle Cheesy…..
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Reply #34 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:18pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 10:31am:
Hey socko, put this in your pipe and smoke it you dickhead



How many houses would one of them power?

Oh that's right they need a house or other power source to power them.


as opposed to filling up at a fossil fool bowser where you literally waste energy driving to. Cheesy LOL

No I'll take the free charge ups from my rooftop solar PV array thank you very much. You and socko can take it up the arse at your local fossil and hydrogen fool bowser. And don't forget your shopper dockets and wait for the weekly discount cycles Wink Be my guest Cheesy LOL
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Reply #35 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Until such time as Fusion reaction is perfected, we are in big trouble. Natural Gas will probably run out in under 50 years. Even Nuclear is not renewable. So-called "breeder reactors" are still not truly renewable forever.

Real Renewables are the medium term answer. Solar, Wind, tidal.

Bring it on.  Cool
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Reply #36 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
why would u want to power a house with a car Lee ?
I usually travel in my vehicle



Because the thread is about renewables as a power source. Never mind back to sleep for you.
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Reply #37 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 1:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:18pm:
as opposed to filling up at a fossil fool bowser where you literally waste energy driving to.


Completely off topic. Renewables as a power source; capiche?

Still on the sauce I see.
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Reply #38 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 1:24pm
 
Lee of the Off Topic Police Reporting   SAH !!!!!!
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Reply #39 - Oct 9th, 2018 at 2:15pm
 
lee wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Oct 9th, 2018 at 12:09pm:
why would u want to power a house with a car Lee ?
I usually travel in my vehicle



Because the thread is about renewables as a power source. Never mind back to sleep for you.


can you power your house from your fossil fool car ? Maybe you could use it as a heater in winter because they are very good at throwing away valuable energy as wasted heat Wink
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Reply #40 - Oct 10th, 2018 at 9:27pm
 
The shrunken heads of the lying SPAMMING TROLLS are drowning in their own uneducated GROSSLY IGNORANT TECHNICALLY OBTUSE SLIME.

The shrunken heads of the lying Spamming Trolls could not argue their way out of a wet paper bag they are just so thick.

Typical MT headed Greeny types.


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Reply #41 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 10:50am
 
The Renewable Energy Disaster
by Christopher Calder

If we have fancy boutique priced energy, we will have fancy boutique priced food!

It is a mathematically provable fact that you cannot replace oil, coal, and natural gas with windmills, solar panels, and biofuels. 

Hobbits may be able to live poetically, generating energy from the wind, the Sun, and the soil. 

Real human beings living in an industrialized civilization need highly concentrated nonrenewable energy sources to survive.

Renewable energy schemes other than hydroelectric and geothermal power are resource hogs that take up huge amounts of space while providing very little usable energy in return. 

Contrary to popular belief, solar, wind, wave energy, and biofuel schemes are not "energy efficient," and their ultra-high cost is an accurate measurement of that inherent inefficiency.  If they were efficient they would cost less than using fossil fuels, not dramatically more than using fossil fuels.   

     WIND AND SOLAR FUTILITY  To satisfy 100% of New York City's electricity needs with wind power would require impossible around-the-clock winds within a limited speed range, and a wind farm the size of the entire state of Connecticut.

Solar photovoltaic cells are so inefficient that even with recent improvements in solar panel design it would take about 30 square miles of expensive solar panels to generate just one gigawatt of electricity. 

How much wind and solar energy can we collect on a still, windless night?  Solar and wind are inherently intermittent and unreliable energy sources. 

Would you hire a drunken employee who only showed up for work part of the time, and on his own erratic schedule, not yours?  On top of that, the sloppy drunk demands a far higher salary than do reliable workers.


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Wind Energy
Lawrence Solomon exposes the lies and hype of the renewable energy faddists in his Financial Post article, "Are solar and wind finally cheaper than fossil fuels? Not a chance"  "Virtually every major German solar producer has gone under." 

As both wind and solar subsidies are withdrawn, wind and solar projects become a financial burden rather than an economic asset.  "The cost to the German economy of its transition to renewables is estimated to reach 2 to 3 trillion euros by 2050."  "As Warren Buffett said, wind farms don’t make sense without the tax credit."

Because of their extremely low power to weight ratio, windmills require the use of huge amounts of steel and other materials in their construction.  Wind turbines are being sold to the public as a carbon neutral product, but manufacturing windmill components is not a carbon neutral process. 

Windmills are mainly made from power generated by burning coal and other fossil fuels.  Because of the enormous amount of resources required for windmill construction, and their intermittent and unreliable performance, windmills do not reduce CO2 emissions. 

Building wind turbine farms covering vast areas of land will kill large numbers of birds and bats, and torture animals and humans living nearby with audible sounds as well as infrasound.  Infrasounds are very low frequencies below 20Hz that travel long distances and can cause headaches, insomnia, and other serious negative health effects.

According to "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL," "The states with (wind power/renewable energy) mandates paid 31.9% more for electricity than states without them.”



Solar Energy
Simple passive solar design features for home construction and passive solar hot water heating are sound investments, but solar power is a wasteful and counterproductive investment for large scale energy production. 

You don't get any solar energy at night; you get less on cloudy days, less in the morning, and less in the late afternoon.

That makes large scale solar  power schemes horribly inefficient no matter how high we can pump up the theoretical peak output of solar panels. 

Solar panels will always be exposed to the weather, and their lifespan is short; about 25 years.  Unlike other power systems, solar panels cannot be repaired and upgraded to extend their usefulness beyond their very limited lifespan. 

This fact dramatically increases their cost per kilowatt hour compared to other more affordable alternatives.  Solar power is great for running pocket calculators, remote vacation cabins, and other small scale high cost per watt uses, but solar power is inherently the wrong choice for large scale power grid use. 

As William Tucker points out in Food Riots Made in the USA, solar power is an extraterrestrial nuclear power system where the nuclear reactor is located 93 million miles away from us in outer space,...the Sun. 

We need terrestrial nuclear reactors right here on Earth so we can affordably capture their highly concentrated energy without taking up huge amounts of land space.  Our extraterrestrial nuclear power source is great for growing crops, but its output is far too diffuse and intermittent for practical large scale electricity production.

Read the whole gory story of renewable futility here

http://renewable.50webs.com/
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Reply #42 - Oct 12th, 2018 at 9:17pm
 
nobody reads your copy and paste sh.t socko. Give it up and stick to origami Cheesy LOL
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Reply #43 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:38pm
 
The shrunken heads of the lying SPAMMING TROLLS are drowning in their own uneducated GROSSLY IGNORANT TECHNICALLY OBTUSE SLIME.

The shrunken heads of the lying Spamming Trolls could not argue their way out of a wet paper bag they are just so thick.

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Reply #44 - Oct 29th, 2018 at 2:32pm
 
There are reasonable expectations within the power industry that renewables will provide a large proportion of electrical energy during the daytime within the next few years. Based on this expectation, I've recently heard a rumor at my workplace that one Queensland power station with 350 MW units have been asked to determine if it is possible to run their units at 75 MW during the day. Apparently, this is a question being asked by all coal fired power stations in Queensland and I imagine all coal fired power stations on the east coast.

I still have my concerns regarding the stability of a grid with a high proportion of renewables, but if such requests are being made to coal fired power stations we're getting renewables whether we like it or not.
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