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Reply #30 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 11:23am
 
As I said, too much infrastructure needed. We already have electric infrastructure.

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Reply #31 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 11:25am
 
So I have shown that copper internet is a waste of tens of billions of public moneys and that hydrogen is a niche fuel.

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Reply #32 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 11:29am
 
The silly old STALKING TROLL is STILL waddling along scribbling dribble. The Munk is a bit MAD.

Huge research effort is going into launching the hydrogen energy revolution while the dead end electrics languish heading towards filling car junk yards as disillusioned owners get sick of range anxiety and half day refueling and fear of the lithium battery fire bomb exploding and incinerating them.



BOC to collaborate with CSIRO on revolutionary $3.4m hydrogen project
By Bob Carr on 22 August 2017

BOC, a member of The Linde Group, one of the world’s leading gases and engineering companies, will support CSIRO during its $3.4 million ammonia to hydrogen cracking and membrane purification project that is set to revolutionise the global supply chain for hydrogen.

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Dr Michael Dolan Principal Research Scientist at CSIRO and Alex Dronoff BOC at CSIRO’s Pullenvale site

As part of a recently signed collaboration agreement, BOC will contribute in-kind gas products, equipment and technical expertise worth in excess of $100,000 for the two-year project now underway at CSIRO’s test site in Pullenvale, Brisbane.

BOC will supply ammonia, which will be cracked and purified into pure hydrogen by the modular membrane technology unit developed by CSIRO. BOC engineers will also assist with compressing the hydrogen and storing it in special cylinder packs, then distributing it to customers on the Australian east coast for use in hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.

General Manager Hydrogen Alex Dronoff says BOC is proud to be working with CSIRO researchers as they take a significant step forward in hydrogen technology, paving the way for a renewable hydrogen export market that could meet rising demand in emerging markets Europe, Japan and South Korea.

“As the only global organisation with expertise and technology that covers the entire hydrogen supply chain, BOC and The Linde Group are committed to working with Australian researchers and industry to help advance the global transition towards clean hydrogen for mobility and energy.

“We look forward to sharing our extensive experience with CSIRO as they enter the final development stages of the membrane technology device – providing advice on generation and storage, right through to transportation and refuelling of hydrogen-powered vehicles.”

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BOC engineers and CSIRO research team kick off planning at CSIRO’s Pullenvale site

CSIRO Energy Director Karl Rodrigues is excited by the growing global momentum to develop hydrogen energy systems, and the potential for a hydrogen export industry to benefit Australia.

“We’re pleased to be partnering with industry – including BOC – and look forward to applying CSIRO innovation to facilitate the creation of new low emissions energy markets.”

Dronoff adds the CSIRO project is a vital technology breakthrough that complements much of the pioneering work that The Linde Group has been driving for decades.

“With more than 150 fuelling stations built worldwide and over 1.5 million refuelling operations completed, Linde is continuously working on the expansion of hydrogen infrastructure. In August 2016 Linde launched BeeZero, the world’s first hydrogen-powered carsharing service – and is a joint partner of the Energie Park Mainz project that produces and stores renewable hydrogen for mobility applications generated by electrolysis through wind energy at a grid-relevant scale.

“With this CSIRO technology, it will be easier and faster to replicate this success on an even larger scale. We are certainly excited by the significant role that Australia will play in making renewable hydrogen a fuel of the future.”

For more information on the CSIRO project, see here.   https://www.csiro.au/en/News/News-releases/2017/Membrane-for-hydrogen-fuel-cells

https://reneweconomy.com.au/boc-collaborate-csiro-revolutionary-3-4m-hydrogen-pr...
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Reply #33 - Jul 31st, 2018 at 2:16pm
 
It is too late for hydrogen, it will never amount to much.
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Reply #34 - Aug 1st, 2018 at 12:52am
 
The silly old STALKING TROLL is STILL waddling along scribbling dribble. The Munk is a bit MAD.


Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Car Tops 3,000 California Sales. That shows just how little impact hydrogen cars are having.
BY STEPHEN EDELSTEIN JANUARY 24, 2018

The Toyota Mirai has racked up over 3,000 sales in California—the only state where it is available—since order books for the hydrogen fuel-cell car first opened in 2015. Toyota noted that the Mirai now accounts for 80 percent of fuel-cell vehicle sales in the United States. But the relatively small number of cars sold shows that fuel-cell vehicles still have a long way to go.

The Mirai wasn't the first fuel-cell car offered for sale to the general public in the U.S. That distinction goes to the Hyundai Tucson Fuel Cell, which went on sale in the U.S. in 2014. But the Mirai was the first to be a distinct model, rather than a fuel-cell version of an existing model. The Mirai also competes against the Honda Clarity Fuel Cell, and Hyundai will soon replace the Tucson Fuel Cell with a new model called the Nexo.

But Toyota, Hyundai, and Honda are fighting for pieces of a very small pie. Toyota sold over 100,000 Prius hybrids in 2017 alone, while Nissan sold around 11,000 battery-electric Leafs. Many fuel-cell cars also go to fleet buyers rather than individual customers, and all three automakers currently selling hydrogen cars in the U.S. limit sales to California.

The Golden State is the only state where you can buy a hydrogen fuel-cell car because other states lack sufficient fueling infrastructure. California currently has 31 public hydrogen stations, and Toyota expects 12 more to open this year. The automaker is also working with Air Liquide to build 12 stations between New York and Boston. That effort got off to a slow start, but Toyota expects the first of these East Coast stations to open in Boston later this year.

Despite slow sales and a parallel program to develop battery-electric cars, Toyota sees a bright future for fuel cells. The company believes fuel-cell cars will be as cheap as hybrids by 2025, and that it will be making 10 times as many by then as it does today. Toyota's fuel-cell interests extend beyond cars to buses and commercial trucks.

http://www.thedrive.com/tech/17924/toyota-mirai-hydrogen-fuel-cell-car-tops-3000...
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Reply #35 - Aug 1st, 2018 at 5:56am
 
Not nearly enough. Just Tesla will be making 30,000 Model 3s a month by the end of this year. It is a bit like VHS v betamax videotapes, VHS won out. Who wants the minority electric car with no infrastructure to support it? Your own article show how far hydrogen is!
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Reply #36 - Aug 1st, 2018 at 9:07am
 
Now the Mad Munk does a bit of TROLL STALKING.
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Reply #37 - Aug 1st, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 31st, 2018 at 10:57am:
Nah, EVs are way out in front and there is no way expensive hydrogen can catch them. You can get free “fuel” by installing solar panels and some batteries.

Hydrogen is just a gimmick where fossil fuel interests pretend to care about the environment. Give it up YouLiar.


Socko is hoping that his libbo mates will still have a future ripping off the battlers for their energy requirements but the smart people have already moved to electric cars and battery backup Wink

Nobody wants to pay socko and his mates for their laughing gas.


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Reply #38 - Aug 2nd, 2018 at 12:50pm
 
Now the Mad Munk's brother does a bit of TROLL STALKING.
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Reply #39 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 7:50am
 
https://www.hytechpower.com/
I still think this is hydrogens only real use in vehicles..... fuel cells r so inefficient because it need to be compressed with 10,000 pounds of pressure to be usable.
Hytec make the hydrogen to be used with diesel and have a beta of a hydrogen ute that looks promising.  Wink
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Reply #40 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 12:51pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 2nd, 2018 at 12:50pm:
Now the Mad Munk's brother does a bit of TROLL STALKING.


The world is rushing ! The world is rushing ! I am so thrilled Cheesy LOL
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Reply #41 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
Now the Mad Munk troll is on holidays wonder when the other 2 drongos will follow him ?
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Reply #42 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 5:56am
 
u do realize my last post I was being pro hydrogen... Jules instead of just insults maybe actually read what's happening  Wink
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Reply #43 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 2:10pm
 
Holidays, me?
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Reply #44 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
Happy holidays trolls.
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