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Re: Says it all
Reply #105 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
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Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
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Reply #106 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
Reply #75 - Yesterday at 3:00pm
Quote:
Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

Reply #92 - Today at 2:43pm
Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
Now watch him dispute it  Cheesy Roll Eyes


Christians don't do that, Aquascoot. We honour each other. We love our brother as we love ourselves.

I think this is important. To have love, one must forgive oneself.

I'm not sure if Mr Trump discovered this on his journey to self fulfilment, but I think prophet Yeheshua did.

He wrote the Bible. Moh wrote the Quran. Mr Trump wrote the Art of the Deal I, II & III.
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Reply #107 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 11:26pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:15pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Erecting a strawman argument, Moses?  I suppose its the only sort of argument you have a chance of winning, right?

I have suggested that there are numerous instructions in The Bible for Christians to kill other people.   However, it takes a Christian to read and obey them.  In the case you're dredged up, the instruction came from the Pope - the leading Christian and the ultimate earthy authority on the religion and it's teaching - someone who'd we expect to understand what Christ was talking about and yet, he told his fellow Christians to kill the Albigensians.   It is good that you've finally faced your demons and admit that Christians kill people, Moses.   Do you feel cleansed by your confession?   Roll Eyes


Yes, Brian, but I believe Moses is saying Christians are justified in killing people they don't like in an attempt to steer clear of evil. Moses is saying he is perfectly entitled to hate Muslims and their apologists because they annoy him.

More than entitled, Moses believes his prophet Yeheshua decrees this, despite multiple records by multiple disciples documenting Yeheshua saying something else entirely.

Judge not, hate not, kill not in revenge. Let the Father deliver justice. Love all, including thy enemy.

Including those turbaned tinted races you've never met who bother you ever so.

Yes, Moses does not believe his prophet told him to turn the other cheek when the Muselman gets him all hot under the collar. Moses does not believe his prophet instructed him not to judgeth the apologists who get him all cranky, are sick and twisted, and make him lie down like a little girl.

Remember, Brian, if you have not hate, you are nothing, no?


Ah.  Yes.  Moses does seem to hate people who disagree with him.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #108 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 4:44pm
 
The story so far is:

Two leftard apologists desperately trying to save their muslim terrorists friends from denunciation.

They simply can't stand the fact: if people commit atrocities they are disobeying the teachings of Christ.

Conversely.

Every muslims who perpetrates the most depraved degeneracy against their fellow man are obeying the teachings of muhammad.

Poor old liar B.R. is ingeniously trying to prove that people who disobey Christ are true blue Christians, when their own doctrine distinctly says they are not.

The other one is truly a sicko, trying to push the line of absolute love and submission is the sole duty of everyone, dismissing the horrific rape torture and murder of little girls and women as of no consequence, Christians simply should accept every evil in this world, love and submit to it.

Sicko perverts.
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Reply #109 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:01pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
The story so far is:

Two leftard apologists desperately trying to save their muslim terrorists friends from denunciation.

They simply can't stand the fact: if people commit atrocities they are disobeying the teachings of Christ.

Conversely.

Every muslims who perpetrates the most depraved degeneracy against their fellow man are obeying the teachings of muhammad.

Poor old liar B.R. is ingeniously trying to prove that people who disobey Christ are true blue Christians, when their own doctrine distinctly says they are not.

The other one is truly a sicko, trying to push the line of absolute love and submission is the sole duty of everyone, dismissing the horrific rape torture and murder of little girls and women as of no consequence, Christians simply should accept every evil in this world, love and submit to it.

Sicko perverts.


Moses, you are welcome to denounce Terrorists as much as you desire.  Your problem is, you define "Terrorists" to include all Muslims, innocent and guilty alike.  Which is why I call you a bigot.  To you, merely being a Muslim makes a person guilty of all sorts of crimes, the moment they leave their mother's womb.  Tsk, tsk,   Roll Eyes
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Reply #110 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:19pm
 
I know that the qur'an is the cause and motivation for islamic terrorism.

Anyone who supports the qur'an as being infallible and unchangeable by definition supports the religious terrorism engendered.

Find one muslim who will decry the evil in the qur'an.
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Reply #111 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:29pm
 
moses wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
I know that the qur'an is the cause and motivation for islamic terrorism.


Just as the Bible is for Christian Terrorism, Moses.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Says it all
Reply #112 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:54pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
moses wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
I know that the qur'an is the cause and motivation for islamic terrorism.


Just as the Bible is for Christian Terrorism, Moses.    Roll Eyes



Which part of the Bible is quoted by terrorists, silly old bedwetter?

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Reply #113 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 10:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
moses wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
I know that the qur'an is the cause and motivation for islamic terrorism.


Just as the Bible is for Christian Terrorism, Moses.    Roll Eyes



Which part of the Bible is quoted by terrorists, silly old bedwetter?



We'll ask Moses.

Moses, where did prophet Yeheshua rescind His order to love thine enemy? Where did He tell His followers to hate them, ban them, kill the Muslims and their apologists?

Chapter and verse, please.
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Reply #114 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 6:55am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
Reply #75 - Yesterday at 3:00pm
Quote:
Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

Reply #92 - Today at 2:43pm
Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
Now watch him dispute it  Cheesy Roll Eyes


Christians don't do that, Aquascoot. We honour each other. We love our brother as we love ourselves.

I think this is important. To have love, one must forgive oneself.

I'm not sure if Mr Trump discovered this on his journey to self fulfilment, but I think prophet Yeheshua did.

He wrote the Bible. Moh wrote the Quran. Mr Trump wrote the Art of the Deal I, II & III.


well brian did tell a lie and if he wants to stay on the narrow road to success , then he should rectify this.
now you will say trump tells lies too, but i more see trump as a rule breaker.
there is a difference.

with regards the bible and the quran (or the dao or the dharma)....they must have some sort of embodied truth or they would not have stood the test of time.
they must contain archetypal stories.

sleeping beauty, pinochio, mcbeth, mozarts music, michelangelos paintings...these are archetypal.
they speak to something that is true across time.
all learning is remembering karnal.

now 'the art of the deal". is this an archtypal story?
probably not.
but trump may be an archetypal figure, a heroic figure who re ignited assertive and courageous masculine energy.

time will tell.

trump is a bit like the pheonix.
always being burnt to the ground and reborn.

if he allows the dead wood to be burnt off, then he can emerge better each time.

characters like obama and hilary.  they never really had 'the fall".
so they may be made up of 90 % dead wood .
dead wood can be lies, deceit and arrogance.
one would have to acknowledge the arrogance of the democratic party 18 months ago.

we , humans, like the story of "the fall".

its a death and rebirth story.

a movie where everything just chugged along would be pretty boring.

a better story is ,
"you were going along and suddenly there was a period of great chaos and you made sense of the chaos and emerged as a hero".

we like that story.
thats most movies.

thats not hilary or obama.

thats the story of trump.

thats why its engaging and interesting

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Reply #115 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:11pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:29pm:
moses wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:19pm:
I know that the qur'an is the cause and motivation for islamic terrorism.


Just as the Bible is for Christian Terrorism, Moses.    Roll Eyes


Which part of the Bible is quoted by terrorists, silly old bedwetter?


Obviously not Matthew 5:44, Soren.   Perhaps they like to quote something from Revelations instead?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #116 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 6:55am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
Reply #75 - Yesterday at 3:00pm
Quote:
Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

Reply #92 - Today at 2:43pm
Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
Now watch him dispute it  Cheesy Roll Eyes


Christians don't do that, Aquascoot. We honour each other. We love our brother as we love ourselves.

I think this is important. To have love, one must forgive oneself.

I'm not sure if Mr Trump discovered this on his journey to self fulfilment, but I think prophet Yeheshua did.

He wrote the Bible. Moh wrote the Quran. Mr Trump wrote the Art of the Deal I, II & III.


well brian did tell a lie and if he wants to stay on the narrow road to success , then he should rectify this.


What a strange definition of the word "lie" you are using there, Aqua.   Rather a case of mendacity on your part, don't you think?  Tsk, tsk.  Prove I "knowngly told an untruth," if you can.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #117 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 6:55am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
Reply #75 - Yesterday at 3:00pm
Quote:
Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

Reply #92 - Today at 2:43pm
Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
Now watch him dispute it  Cheesy Roll Eyes


Christians don't do that, Aquascoot. We honour each other. We love our brother as we love ourselves.

I think this is important. To have love, one must forgive oneself.

I'm not sure if Mr Trump discovered this on his journey to self fulfilment, but I think prophet Yeheshua did.

He wrote the Bible. Moh wrote the Quran. Mr Trump wrote the Art of the Deal I, II & III.


well brian did tell a lie and if he wants to stay on the narrow road to success , then he should rectify this.


What a strange definition of the word "lie" you are using there, Aqua.   Rather a case of mendacity on your part, don't you think?  Tsk, tsk.  Prove I "knowngly told an untruth," if you can.    Roll Eyes



Tsk tsk.

You told Moses that the bible instructed Christians to kill people.
You gave as an example the instruction to kill Gnostics and albigensians.

Moses pointed out that this was an instruction from a pope in the 13 th century.
Are you standing by your claim that this instruction came from the bible.


Tsk tsk

Though shalt not lie .
That comes from the bible.
Educate yourself  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #118 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:43pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 6:55am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
moses wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
1st lie by B.R.
Reply #75 - Yesterday at 3:00pm
Quote:
Unlike you though, who refuses to admit that the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.


Challenged by me to show such instructions. He changes tack by posting:

Reply #92 - Today at 2:43pm
Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  How about the instruction to kill the Gnostics and the Albigensians?


O.K. so what's he talking about?

Well it turns' out that

Albigensian Crusade fought between 1209 and 1229.
The Albigensian Crusade or the Cathar Crusade (1209–1229; French: Croisade des albigeois, Occitan: Crosada dels albigeses) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by Pope Innocent III to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc, in southern France.


A military directive from a pope is now an instruction in the bible, according to our resident board liar.




Yes, you have exposed him as a liar.
This seems indisputable
Now watch him dispute it  Cheesy Roll Eyes


Christians don't do that, Aquascoot. We honour each other. We love our brother as we love ourselves.

I think this is important. To have love, one must forgive oneself.

I'm not sure if Mr Trump discovered this on his journey to self fulfilment, but I think prophet Yeheshua did.

He wrote the Bible. Moh wrote the Quran. Mr Trump wrote the Art of the Deal I, II & III.


well brian did tell a lie and if he wants to stay on the narrow road to success , then he should rectify this.


What a strange definition of the word "lie" you are using there, Aqua.   Rather a case of mendacity on your part, don't you think?  Tsk, tsk.  Prove I "knowngly told an untruth," if you can.    Roll Eyes



Tsk tsk.

You told Moses that the bible instructed Christians to kill people.
You gave as an example the instruction to kill Gnostics and albigensians.

Moses pointed out that this was an instruction from a pope in the 13 th century.
Are you standing by your claim that this instruction came from the bible.


Tsk tsk

Though shalt not lie .
That comes from the bible.
Educate yourself  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


All of these apologies for the conduct of contemporary Islam, comparing Christianity, are flimsy at best. The fact of the matter, the issue at the heart of all of this is the present-day atrocities in the name of a religion, namely Islam. No other religion is carrying out a campaign of wholesale murder and intimidation anything remotely comparable to that which moderate Muzlims condone in their silence. That is the essentially fallacy of the "not all Muzlims are terrorists" claim. Its sophistry, seeking to change the subject.
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Reply #119 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:08pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Tsk tsk.

You told Moses that the bible instructed Christians to kill people.
You gave as an example the instruction to kill Gnostics and albigensians.

Moses pointed out that this was an instruction from a pope in the 13 th century.
Are you standing by your claim that this instruction came from the bible.

Tsk tsk

Though shalt not lie .
Educate yourself  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I am not a Christian, nor have I ever claimed to be a Christian, unlike Moses.

I believe the Bible instructs Christians to kill people.  There are numerous such instructions as Deuteronomy 17:1-20: “You shall not sacrifice to the Lord your God an ox or a sheep in which is a blemish, any defect whatever, for that is an abomination to the Lord your God. “If there is found among you, within any of your towns that the Lord your God is giving you, a man or woman who does what is evil in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods and worshiped them, or the sun or the moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have forbidden, and it is told you and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently, and if it is true and certain that such an abomination has been done in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has done this evil thing, and you shall stone that man or woman to death with stones. ... "  or we have 2 Chronicles 15:12-13  "And they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, but that whoever would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman. "

Both are clear instructions, from within the Bible to kill people.

Tsk, tsk, indeed.  Now who is lying?   Roll Eyes
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