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Reply #90 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
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Auggie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
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Muslim terrorists expressly, avowedly commit their terrorist act in the name of Islam, supported  and justified by islamic religious and political doctrines.

Other muslims glorify them as martyrs, again, on the basis of religious and political islamic ideology. Mohamedans and others like the clowns here and elsewhere - yes, you, Augie-bargy, Bwain the Disoriented, gandalf al-Mohammed, kernel Al-Pakistani, gweggy Al S-bend etc - argue about criticism of islamic terrorism on the basis of - the horror!!! - islamophobia.

It all confirms, loud and clear, that islamic terrorism and it's defenders and excusers, are all gathered on the common ground of iSLAM, nothing else. Take islam out of the discussion and there is nothing left. Critics and defenders both speak about islam. So we must conclude that islamic terrorism, as the name suggests, has everything to do with islam.


This is higher-order reasoning for most islamists and their defenders but plain and obvious to the sane population.

Carry on with the circus, clowns.


So, you are interpreting religion devoid of all spiritual components?? That makes an Islamist. Islam also has a concept of Heaven and Hell and of divine punishment.

Don't you think that the idea of a heaven and hell implicitly indicates restraint on a earthly level?

You are a looney, that's what i think.

One minute you are strict about 'Oh, but it's not in thee koran'. The next minute you carry on about spiritual components.  You are an idiot, except you are too simple even to be an idiot. You are a mouthy simpleton unaware of your limitations.






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Is this how you respond to complex arguments? Using the tactics of the Leftards: evasion and insult.

Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.
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Reply #91 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:57pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Who suggested it should be "ignored", Soren?

Concern about it should be placed in proportion.   Islamist Terrorism is a minor problem for the overwhelming majority of the world's population.  You are in greater danger from being struck by lightning than you are of being killed by an Islamist Terrorist.

If Western Governments were to address the root causes of Islamism and it's Terrorists, it would largely disappear, Soren.  Your hatred and intolerance is one of it's driving forces.  Your refusal to tolerate moderate, mainstream Islam shows how short sighted you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes


If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.

You are a stupid, white supremacist git, Bwian.
It is now up to the white man  - Western Governments -  to educate and guide thee unruly, out of hand brown musulmans about correct behaviour and because the white man is not guiding nature's wild musulman children, the white man's hand is bitten by said wild brown musulmans.

You are so blinkered and stupid that you do not see just how racist and supremacist your very stand is - musulmans would not be thee way they are if only white people were behaving differently. You present mohammedans as unable to make choices and so they are mere automaton who blow his way or that simply because thee white man.

You are an idiot of unique standing, Bwian. Carry on, fool, let us see what other shite is churning in what you are pleased to call your mind.

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.


Islam is an excuse, Soren.   Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.    It provides a rational for you and the Islamists to attack one another.  The root cause is politics.  Until the inequalities are addressed, Islamists will exploit them, just as you will, Soren.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #92 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 11:00pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.


Soren?  Be a man?  Never!   Roll Eyes
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Reply #93 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:20pm
 
Our resident apologist for islamic terror wrote: Reply #74 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:23pm
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You really are a bigot, aren't you, Moses.


Please be so kind as to address me with my full title: Bigoted islamophobic racist.

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All I am asking is that you give a "fair deal" to the 1.6 billion Muslins, the overwhelning number are innocent of any crimes you appear to imagine.


No you're not. You are desperately trying to hide the truth, which is, islam / qur'an is the cause and motivation of islamic atrocities being committed on a global scale by muslims today the 21st century.

Ask your islamic masters to be honest and remove the evil in their qur'an.

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I have never excused Terrorism, Moses and no matter how you attempt to claim otherwise, I will continue to believe everybody is due a fair chance until they prove otherwise, Moses.  All are innocent until proven guilty and then their guilt is theirs alone.  You believe in painting with a broadbrush, no Muslim is innocent in your eyes.  You are a true bigot.  You are absolutely disgusting, Moses.   You have failed to demonstrate you actually practice the Christianity you so proudly proclaim to us.  You have failed to follow your God's Commandments.   You have failed to follow your Messiah's beliefs.   You are a representative of the anti-Christ, not the Christ.


If I'm on the opposite side of the fence to you, I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'm on the right side.
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Reply #94 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:30pm
 
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Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.


This is often sprouted by the apologists for islam.

Yet they can never show us how Christ advocated rape, torture and mass murder as muhammad did.

They all run and hide from the one simple truth:

muslims who commit atrocities are obeying muhammad

conversely

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.
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Reply #95 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:55pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:20pm:
Our resident apologist for islamic terror wrote: Reply #74 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:23pm
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You really are a bigot, aren't you, Moses.


Please be so kind as to address me with my full title: Bigoted islamophobic racist.


Nope.

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All I am asking is that you give a "fair deal" to the 1.6 billion Muslins, the overwhelning number are innocent of any crimes you appear to imagine.


No you're not. You are desperately trying to hide the truth, which is, islam / qur'an is the cause and motivation of islamic atrocities being committed on a global scale by muslims today the 21st century.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Moses.  So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are?  Really?  Roll Eyes

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Ask your islamic masters to be honest and remove the evil in their qur'an.


I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses.   When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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I have never excused Terrorism, Moses and no matter how you attempt to claim otherwise, I will continue to believe everybody is due a fair chance until they prove otherwise, Moses.  All are innocent until proven guilty and then their guilt is theirs alone.  You believe in painting with a broadbrush, no Muslim is innocent in your eyes.  You are a true bigot.  You are absolutely disgusting, Moses.   You have failed to demonstrate you actually practice the Christianity you so proudly proclaim to us.  You have failed to follow your God's Commandments.   You have failed to follow your Messiah's beliefs.   You are a representative of the anti-Christ, not the Christ.


If I'm on the opposite side of the fence to you, I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'm on the right side.


Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses.   To you, your religion is supreme.  To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme.  When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you.   Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #96 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:58pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
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Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.


This is often sprouted by the apologists for islam.

Yet they can never show us how Christ advocated rape, torture and mass murder as muhammad did.

They all run and hide from the one simple truth:

muslims who commit atrocities are obeying muhammad

conversely

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Forgotten your Bible, Moses?  Forgotten the instructions it contains to oppress, enslave, misogynism, murder, etc. contained in the Old Testament?   Poor, poor, Moses, it is amazing how one eyed your bigotry really is.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #97 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:32pm
 
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Moses.  So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are?  Really?


Oh gee here we go, another smokescreen. so now you're going to say they don't believe they are obeying the qur'an?


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I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses.   When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible?  Tsk, tsk.


No islamic masters? Goodness they will be pleased with your taqiyya, you've learnt your trade well.

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Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses.   To you, your religion is supreme.  To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme.  When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you.   Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you.


Well spit three times and call me allah.

So many words and not one mention of islamic terrorism, just smokescreen after smokescreen, all to prevent the truth about islamic doctrine and the commands to rape torture and kill innocent people.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Forgotten your Bible, Moses?  Forgotten the instructions it contains to oppress, enslave, misogynism, murder, etc. contained in the Old Testament?   Poor, poor, Moses, it is amazing how one eyed your bigotry really is.


well dearie dearie me, once again nothing to disprove my statement:

muslims who rape torture and slaughter innocent people are obeying muhammad'

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.

Stands unchallenged I see.
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Reply #98 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:52pm
 
moses wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:32pm:
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Moses.  So, you have questioned all the Islamist Terrorists as to what their motivations are?  Really?


Oh gee here we go, another smokescreen. so now you're going to say they don't believe they are obeying the qur'an?


So, then, why do they gabble on about US forces in Saudi Arabia/Iraq/Syria, the plight of the Palestinians, the Rohyinga, etc?  The Q'ran, like the Bible provides a justification for what they are doing but the actual reasons are far more earthly.

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I have no 'Islamic masters', Moses.   When are the Christians going to remove the evil in their Bible?  Tsk, tsk.


No islamic masters? Goodness they will be pleased with your taqiyya, you've learnt your trade well.


You really aren't working with a full deck, are you, Moses?   Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Your views are coloured by your beliefs, Moses.   To you, your religion is supreme.  To the rest of us, secular society with it's system of laws and it's judicial system is supreme.  When you choose to leave your pre-18th century world and join the rest of us in the 21st century, I am sure some will welcome you.   Until then, I'm sure you'll enjoy running the Inquisition that you want to subject all of us to.

Tail Gunner-Joe had nothing on you.


Well spit three times and call me allah.

So many words and not one mention of islamic terrorism, just smokescreen after smokescreen, all to prevent the truth about islamic doctrine and the commands to rape torture and kill innocent people.


"Are you a member of the Islamic faith?"
"No!"
"You are using taqiyya!  Nothing you claim can be believed!"

So, how many Communists worked in the State Department, Tail Gunner-Joe?   Roll Eyes
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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Forgotten your Bible, Moses?  Forgotten the instructions it contains to oppress, enslave, misogynism, murder, etc. contained in the Old Testament?   Poor, poor, Moses, it is amazing how one eyed your bigotry really is.


well dearie dearie me, once again nothing to disprove my statement:

muslims who rape torture and slaughter innocent people are obeying muhammad'

Iniquitous people who perpetrate depravities are disobeying Christ.

Stands unchallenged I see.


Christians who rape, torture, slaughter innocent people are obeying who's instructions, Moses?  Mmm?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #99 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Who suggested it should be "ignored", Soren?

Concern about it should be placed in proportion.   Islamist Terrorism is a minor problem for the overwhelming majority of the world's population.  You are in greater danger from being struck by lightning than you are of being killed by an Islamist Terrorist.

If Western Governments were to address the root causes of Islamism and it's Terrorists, it would largely disappear, Soren.  Your hatred and intolerance is one of it's driving forces.  Your refusal to tolerate moderate, mainstream Islam shows how short sighted you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes


If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.

You are a stupid, white supremacist git, Bwian.
It is now up to the white man  - Western Governments -  to educate and guide thee unruly, out of hand brown musulmans about correct behaviour and because the white man is not guiding nature's wild musulman children, the white man's hand is bitten by said wild brown musulmans.

You are so blinkered and stupid that you do not see just how racist and supremacist your very stand is - musulmans would not be thee way they are if only white people were behaving differently. You present mohammedans as unable to make choices and so they are mere automaton who blow his way or that simply because thee white man.

You are an idiot of unique standing, Bwian. Carry on, fool, let us see what other shite is churning in what you are pleased to call your mind.

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.


Islam is an excuse, Soren.   Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.    It provides a rational for you and the Islamists to attack one another.  The root cause is politics.  Until the inequalities are addressed, Islamists will exploit them, just as you will, Soren.  Roll Eyes


Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.
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Reply #100 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:05pm:
Auggie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Muslim terrorists expressly, avowedly commit their terrorist act in the name of Islam, supported  and justified by islamic religious and political doctrines.

Other muslims glorify them as martyrs, again, on the basis of religious and political islamic ideology. Mohamedans and others like the clowns here and elsewhere - yes, you, Augie-bargy, Bwain the Disoriented, gandalf al-Mohammed, kernel Al-Pakistani, gweggy Al S-bend etc - argue about criticism of islamic terrorism on the basis of - the horror!!! - islamophobia.

It all confirms, loud and clear, that islamic terrorism and it's defenders and excusers, are all gathered on the common ground of iSLAM, nothing else. Take islam out of the discussion and there is nothing left. Critics and defenders both speak about islam. So we must conclude that islamic terrorism, as the name suggests, has everything to do with islam.


This is higher-order reasoning for most islamists and their defenders but plain and obvious to the sane population.

Carry on with the circus, clowns.


So, you are interpreting religion devoid of all spiritual components?? That makes an Islamist. Islam also has a concept of Heaven and Hell and of divine punishment.

Don't you think that the idea of a heaven and hell implicitly indicates restraint on a earthly level?

You are a looney, that's what i think.

One minute you are strict about 'Oh, but it's not in thee koran'. The next minute you carry on about spiritual components.  You are an idiot, except you are too simple even to be an idiot. You are a mouthy simpleton unaware of your limitations.




Is this how you respond to complex arguments? Using the tactics of the Leftards: evasion and insult.

Be a man, Frank. Argue like a man.



Oh! You presented a 'complex argument', did you?

Where? You asked two banal questions. Looking at your second - if heavenly reward is promised for evil deeds, as in Islam, then there will be NO restraint in evil deed in pursuit of heavenly rewards - see Islamic terrorism.

Muslims taunt Jews and Christians with "we love death more than you love life".
"We love death more than you love life."
-- Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 13 and wounding of 30 fellow soldiers at Fort Hood, TX

"We love death more than you love life."
-- Adis Medunjanin, part of a 911 call made in New York City after crashing his car while fleeing from federal agents who had confiscated his passport

"We have come to you... with people who love death more than you love life."
-- Ansar Jund Allah, Commander Of Gaza Organization

"How can death become joyous? How can death become happiness? When Al-Hussein asked his nephew Al-Qassem, when he had not yet reached puberty: 'How do you like the taste of death, son?' He answered that it was sweeter than honey. How can the foul taste of death become sweeter than honey? Only through conviction, ideology, and faith, through belief, and devotion... We do not want to... leave our homeland to Israel... Therefore, we are not interested in our own personal security. On the contrary, each of us lives his days and nights hoping more than anything to be killed for the sake of Allah."
-- Hassan Nasrallah, Secretary-General of Lebanon's Hezbollah (or "Party of God"), Al-Manar TV , 18-19 February 2005

"We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between he who loves the hereafter and he who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and strives for martyrdom."
-- Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri, Chief Palestinian Authority Cleric

"The Jews preached permissiveness and corruption, as they hid behind false slogans like freedom and equality, humanism and brotherhood... They are cowards in battle... they flee from death and fear fighting... They love life."
-- Saudi Sheikh Abd Al-Muhsin Al-Qassem in Al-Madina

"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."
-- Hassan Nasrallah, Leader of Hezbollah

"The death of over 120 white people is a very beautiful thing."
-- Malcolm X, Los Angeles on June 3, 1962 upon learning of a plane crash



Death cult is correct.

You ARE a looney, as is you mentor, Aunty Bwian the pseudo-intellectual mail order doctor of divinity (his vanity know no bounds and you are following in his footsteps).
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Reply #101 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Who suggested it should be "ignored", Soren?

Concern about it should be placed in proportion.   Islamist Terrorism is a minor problem for the overwhelming majority of the world's population.  You are in greater danger from being struck by lightning than you are of being killed by an Islamist Terrorist.

If Western Governments were to address the root causes of Islamism and it's Terrorists, it would largely disappear, Soren.  Your hatred and intolerance is one of it's driving forces.  Your refusal to tolerate moderate, mainstream Islam shows how short sighted you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes


If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.

You are a stupid, white supremacist git, Bwian.
It is now up to the white man  - Western Governments -  to educate and guide thee unruly, out of hand brown musulmans about correct behaviour and because the white man is not guiding nature's wild musulman children, the white man's hand is bitten by said wild brown musulmans.

You are so blinkered and stupid that you do not see just how racist and supremacist your very stand is - musulmans would not be thee way they are if only white people were behaving differently. You present mohammedans as unable to make choices and so they are mere automaton who blow his way or that simply because thee white man.

You are an idiot of unique standing, Bwian. Carry on, fool, let us see what other shite is churning in what you are pleased to call your mind.

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.


Islam is an excuse, Soren.   Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.    It provides a rational for you and the Islamists to attack one another.  The root cause is politics.  Until the inequalities are addressed, Islamists will exploit them, just as you will, Soren.  Roll Eyes


Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

You can see where the $20 went for the mail-order doctor of divinity title.
The cost of genius.

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Reply #102 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:49pm
 
Soren, perhaps you can tell me how a person becomes sociopathic by reading a text? I've read the Quran many times and I haven't become drawn in to it.

Don't you think there's a bit of psychopathy at play?
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Reply #103 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:51pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:57pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 8:18pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Who suggested it should be "ignored", Soren?

Concern about it should be placed in proportion.   Islamist Terrorism is a minor problem for the overwhelming majority of the world's population.  You are in greater danger from being struck by lightning than you are of being killed by an Islamist Terrorist.

If Western Governments were to address the root causes of Islamism and it's Terrorists, it would largely disappear, Soren.  Your hatred and intolerance is one of it's driving forces.  Your refusal to tolerate moderate, mainstream Islam shows how short sighted you are, Soren.   Roll Eyes


If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.

You are a stupid, white supremacist git, Bwian.
It is now up to the white man  - Western Governments -  to educate and guide thee unruly, out of hand brown musulmans about correct behaviour and because the white man is not guiding nature's wild musulman children, the white man's hand is bitten by said wild brown musulmans.

You are so blinkered and stupid that you do not see just how racist and supremacist your very stand is - musulmans would not be thee way they are if only white people were behaving differently. You present mohammedans as unable to make choices and so they are mere automaton who blow his way or that simply because thee white man.

You are an idiot of unique standing, Bwian. Carry on, fool, let us see what other shite is churning in what you are pleased to call your mind.

If Western governments address the root causes of Islamism - Islam -  you squeal like a stuck pig about Islamophobia.


Islam is an excuse, Soren.   Just as Christianity is an excuse for Christian Terrorism.    It provides a rational for you and the Islamists to attack one another.  The root cause is politics.  Until the inequalities are addressed, Islamists will exploit them, just as you will, Soren.  Roll Eyes


Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.

You can see where the $20 went for the mail-order doctor of divinity title.
The cost of genius.



Brian was close, but no cigar. Humans are the problem. If we can get rid of them, we won't have to hurt Brian's feelings any more by pointing out that Muhammad was a warmongering douchebag.

Problem solved.
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Reply #104 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 9:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Genius. We should get rid of politics, not Islam.


You'll never get rid of it, FD.  People like you always bring it back.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes
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