Auggie wrote on Jun 13
th, 2018 at 5:54pm:
The following is the logic of Yadda, FD, Valkie et al.
All Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism.
All terrorists are Muslim.
All Muslims who preach peace are liars.
All liars are Muslim.
Gandalf is a Muslim.
Gandalf preaches peace therefore Gandalf is a liar.
Some TRUE and some ILLOGICAL [and 'mis-direction'] ARGUMENTS - above.
LOGICAL ARGUMENTS, below.
ARGUMENT;Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17 Quote:
The heart of ISLAM is the Koran
[and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].
THE TRUTH IS, that ISLAM is a philosophy which encourages the murder or enslavement of those who reject ISLAM
[through the agency of
terror and never-ending conflict].
EVIDENCE for that proposition/argument;"
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29
"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger,
even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22
"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends,
such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23
"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51
"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216
"O ye who believe!
Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are
hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29
"There is for you an excellent example (to follow) in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people: "We are clear of you and of whatever ye worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen, between us and you,
enmity and hatred for ever,- unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone"....."
Koran 60:4
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IMAGE.....
Ali Kadri - Islamic Council of Queensland vice-president,
features in The Mosque Next Door on SBS.
Quote:"There's no underlying religious text or reasons why [moslems] go out and kill people......"
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Ali Kadri ------- >
https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-i...Auggie,
QUESTION;Is
Ali Kadri [above],
a moslem ?
QUESTION;
Should we unquestioningly believe what moslems tell us, and assert, about ISLAM ?Or should we seek for, and believe the [apparent] truth, about what ISLAM is ?
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Quote:
Bill • Dec 4, 2017 at 22:55
Islam means submission and conquest with subjugation.
Islam is authoritarian, pedophilic, supremacist, polygamous, subversive, cleptocratic, hostile to liberty and hostile to classic liberalism, violent, hair-triggered, theocratic, and abusive to non Muslims.
This is the heart of ISLAM.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11484/erdogan-moderate-islam[in comments]
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Q.What 'is' ISLAM ?
ISLAM is a philosophy which urges its followers,
to use deceit,
lying,
intrigue,
intimidation,
and vicious murders and terror,
against those who reject ISLAM's strictures.
.
By definition, every person who
self-declares, as a moslem, is a follower of ISLAM and is a supporter what,
1/ ISLAM and 2/ ISLAMIC law
endorses,
promotes, and
encourages.
Otherwise, that person would not assert and insist, that he is a follower of ISLAM.
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Quote:
Jun 12, 2018
Mauritania makes death penalty for leaving Islam mandatory:
“We want to be as close to the real Sharia as possible”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/mauritania-makes-death-penalty-for-leaving-is...http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484729546/1#1http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1484729546/11#11