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Reply #60 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:28pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Why was it so warm in 1100 BC ?

Good question Bobby, especially seeing as around 1200bc the greatest of the bronze age civilisations collapsed. If we look at the pic it says 10 eruption in Italy, Alaska and the Pacific as the temp s already coming down,, it then has another symbol for eruptions saying 25 eruption in the Pacific, Itally, Iceland and Columbia and the temp then rises. There are clay tablets telling of famine around 1200bc when the bronze age collapses and there is a mass movement of people we know from Egytian writings of the "Sea People". It seems the world getting that warm was not so good.

But at the coldest time there were 90 major eruptions.

What do we have now?

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Reply #62 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:35pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Look at the blue area for the little ice age -
it says 90 major eruptions.

Read when they happened, 24 when the temp was already going down, most when the temp was rising and it did not stop it rising.
None from 1300 when the temp plummeted until it was already cold. They don't correlate. It could be just bad mapping on the image but there is no correlation.

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Reply #64 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:43pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Look at the blue area for the little ice age -
it says 90 major eruptions.

Read when they happened, 24 when the temp was already going down, most when the temp was rising and it did not stop it rising.
None from 1300 when the temp plummeted until it was already cold. They don't correlate. It could be just bad mapping on the image but there is no correlation.

Then why was it increasing when we weren't burning fossil fuels
in large amounts as we have for the last 100 years?

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Reply #65 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:49pm

The_Barnacle wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 10:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 10:35pm:

Setanta wrote on May 24^th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

No ice age for me? I'm down with that.

It will be interesting to hear your winter weather reports.

Yes bobby - WEATHER

You still don't know the difference between local weather and global climate

have a look at the historical data for the last 11,000 years... barney..

we've been on a nonstop cooling trend..

forget about your pathetic 60 or 70 years on Earth.. its Millions of years old ffs... and you think your pathetic existence can make a difference on this place?? Roll Eyes

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Reply #66 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:56pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Low Solar activity will give you a weakening magnetosphere which will cause the Earth to be hit with Heaps more Cosmic Rays .. and that with a cooling Earth will give you more Volcanic activity..

which we are no seeing.. which me and bobby have been discussing for two years now..

you will also see more seismic activity..

so bookmark this post so that you can thank me later..

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Reply #67 - May 27^th, 2018 at 8:58pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Look at the blue area for the little ice age -
it says 90 major eruptions.

Read when they happened, 24 when the temp was already going down, most when the temp was rising and it did not stop it rising.
None from 1300 when the temp plummeted until it was already cold. They don't correlate. It could be just bad mapping on the image but there is no correlation.

Then why was it increasing when we weren't burning fossil fuels
in large amounts as we have for the last 100 years?

Not what I'm discussing Bobby.

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Reply #68 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:02pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Look at the blue area for the little ice age -
it says 90 major eruptions.

Read when they happened, 24 when the temp was already going down, most when the temp was rising and it did not stop it rising.
None from 1300 when the temp plummeted until it was already cold. They don't correlate. It could be just bad mapping on the image but there is no correlation.

Then why was it increasing when we weren't burning fossil fuels
in large amounts as we have for the last 100 years?

Not what I'm discussing Bobby.

Yes it is -
we're discussing why the Earth has hot & cold cycles.

How about moving this thread to the Environment forum please?

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Reply #69 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:03pm

Gordon wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

Really warn autumn here. Glorious weather and the water temp is still 19

if you look at the Northern Hemisphere its been an extended winter breaking all records in the History of the world...

its only just turning now... NH is only just warming up now., which mean we'll start to fall into our winter as Autumn comes to an end..

and its going to be a very cold winter... very cold... Undecided

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Reply #70 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:04pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:02pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:35pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:17pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:40pm:

Ajax wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:59am:

Yep the Earth has warmed BUT its not because of mans emissions of CO2.

https://image.ibb.co/k8zcLo/iceage_01.jpg

Looking at that image I would conclude volcanic activity has no effect at all.

Look at the blue area for the little ice age -
it says 90 major eruptions.

Read when they happened, 24 when the temp was already going down, most when the temp was rising and it did not stop it rising.
None from 1300 when the temp plummeted until it was already cold. They don't correlate. It could be just bad mapping on the image but there is no correlation.

Then why was it increasing when we weren't burning fossil fuels
in large amounts as we have for the last 100 years?

Not what I'm discussing Bobby.

Yes it is -
we're discussing why the Earth has hot & cold cycles.

How about moving this thread to the Environment forum please?

Not at all, I'm saying the volcanic activity in that pic does not correlate with temp. That's it.

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Reply #71 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:09pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:

Not at all, I'm saying the volcanic activity in that pic does not correlate with temp. That's it.

Thanks Set for moving the thread.

In 1991 the Earth cooled after a volcanic eruption
but yes - you are right - there is no major correlation.

The question is -
what has caused these hot & cold periods?

May I say that it appears it has nothing to do with CO2?

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Reply #72 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:09pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

Gordon wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

Really warn autumn here. Glorious weather and the water temp is still 19

if you look at the Northern Hemisphere its been an extended winter breaking all records in the History of the world...

its only just turning now... NH is only just warming up now., which mean we'll start to fall into our winter as Autumn comes to an end..

and its going to be a very cold winter... very cold... Undecided

That's funny because a person that lives there and posts here has said she had no spring, ie straight to summer.

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Reply #73 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:25pm

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:09pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:

Not at all, I'm saying the volcanic activity in that pic does not correlate with temp. That's it.

Thanks Set for moving the thread.

In 1991 the Earth cooled after a volcanic eruption
but yes - you are right - there is no major correlation.

The question is -
what has caused these hot & cold periods?

May I say that it appears it has nothing to do with CO2?

You may say what you like Bobby. Grin

What i found interesting was the 1100BC thing. I'm a bit of a bronze age buff. The collapse of all but one(Egypt) of the bronze age empires in a generation or two around 1187bc is of immense interest to me.

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Reply #74 - May 27^th, 2018 at 9:57pm

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:09pm:

Setanta wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:04pm:

Not at all, I'm saying the volcanic activity in that pic does not correlate with temp. That's it.

Thanks Set for moving the thread.

In 1991 the Earth cooled after a volcanic eruption
but yes - you are right - there is no major correlation.

The question is -
what has caused these hot & cold periods?

May I say that it appears it has nothing to do with CO2?

You may say what you like Bobby. Grin

What i found interesting was the 1100BC thing. I'm a bit of a bronze age buff. The collapse of all but one(Egypt) of the bronze age empires in a generation or two around 1187bc is of immense interest to me.

But the Bronze age civilisations flourished during most
of the warm period & so did the Romans & the Vikings
in the warm periods that came afterwards.

These warm periods have not been well explained.
Maybe it's due to the orbit of the Earth or
the fact that our Sun is a variable star?

I'm guessing that a grand solar minimum + high volcanic activity
will plunge us into a temporary mini ice age.
There is evidence that it started already - just 2 years ago.

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