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Reply #240 - Jun 2nd, 2018 at 8:41am
 
juliar wrote on Jun 1st, 2018 at 5:29pm:
The usual off topic attention seeking waste of space from the utterly boring would be Greeny type DDH.

And now how most Tesla accident prone heaps end up. Something must have gone wrong because it didn't catch fire!!!

https://www.diariomotor.com/imagenes/picscache/1440x655c/tesla-model-s-accidente...

yes because there is no motor in the front of a tesla they have  a excellent crumple zone and keep  the occupants  safe.. good post Jules and that picture shows it well. Wink Wink Tongue
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Reply #241 - Jun 2nd, 2018 at 12:12pm
 
Check it out socko

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fiat-chrysler-verdict-jeep/u-s-jury-awards-15...

U.S. jury awards $150 million for Jeep fuel-tank fire death


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A U.S. jury in Georgia on Thursday awarded $150 million to a family that sued Chrysler Group LLC for the 2012 death of their 4-year-old in a fiery crash involving a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a rear fuel tank.

Following a nearly two-week trial in Decatur County, Georgia, jurors said Chrysler, a unit of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, was liable for the death of Remington Walden and failed to warn customers that the tank’s position could increase the risk of fire in a rear-end crash.

Chrysler previously recalled 1.56 million Jeep SUVs with rear fuel tanks, although the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee in which Walden was riding was not among them.

The jury, which began deliberating Thursday afternoon, said Chrysler acted with “reckless and wanton disregard” and ordered it to pay 99 percent of the damages. The driver of the vehicle that rear-ended the Grand Cherokee was responsible for the other 1 percent.

Walden was killed when the Jeep he was riding in was struck from behind, rupturing the fuel tank and creating an “inferno,” according to Jim Butler, a lawyer for the family. Had the fuel tank been placed farther forward on the vehicle, he said, it would have been better protected.

Concerns over fuel-tank placement prompted Chrysler to announce in 2013 that it would recall 1993-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokees, along with the Jeep Libertys from model years 2002-2007. The company also said it would conduct a “customer satisfaction campaign” for 1999-2004 Jeep Grand Cherokees.

The announcement came after Chrysler initially denied there was a safety issue. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has linked more than 50 deaths to the fuel-tank issues.

Chrysler’s lawyers said at trial that the fire did not cause Walden’s death and blamed the driver of the other vehicle. Fiat Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, whose pre-recorded testimony was played during trial, said that regulators never found a defect in the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee and that there was no evidence the vehicle was dangerous. Reuters viewed the proceedings on Courtroom View Network.


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Reply #242 - Jun 2nd, 2018 at 12:34pm
 
Funny. Defending Tesla by pointing out the problems of other auto makers. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #243 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 1:32pm
 
DDH is a classic troll posting ANYTHING just to try to seek attention all the time.

But ignoring the deadly boring troll, which is doing what they HATE, and back to the TOPIC as a NEW HAZARD with all electric heaps have is exposed - a LIGHNING STRIKE!!!!!



Electric Car Rampage After Being Struck by Lightning

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An electric smart car caused great turmoil yesterday morning in Nashville, Tennessee, when it went out of control after being struck by a lightning bolt, leaving 8 people injured.

According to report, Mr. Martin Jones was driving the car under the rain, when his car was struck by a 120,000 amperes electrostatic discharge, radically supercharging his small electric vehicle’s engine. The Smart car almost instantly reached the incredible speed of 211 miles per hour (or 340 km/h), leading to violent collisions with 5 other vehicles in less than 30 seconds.

Rosie Albert, a neighbor who witnessed the whole scene, explains that the car could have killed many.

“It was just shocking” says Ms. Denver. “This tiny car was speeding like a Nascar in a residential area. And then… boom! It started crashing through cars, one after the other.”

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The small electric car was completely destroyed after the incident, but the driver miraculously survived.

“All of a sudden, a white light filled the whole car and my whole body went numb”explains Mr. Jones, still shocked by the whole event. “I really tried to break, but my car just went out of control! All I could do was to try to avoid hitting any pedestrians. I have never been so scared in my life!”

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The young driver was very lucky and suffers only from a broken leg and two fractured ribs.

His vehicle slightly bumped a first car before literally cutting a second one in half. It continued its rampage by hitting two other cars and violently ramming a minivan carrying four people before it finally stopped.

Despite the popular belief that the rubber in car tires protects the vehicle from being hit by lightning, hundreds of road vehicles are struck every year in America and dozens of people are injured or shocked.

When most cars are struck by lightning, the electrical charge flows around the outside of the vehicle, and the majority of the current flows from the car’s metal cage into the ground below.

Smart cars are however manufactured out of ultra-grade fiberglass, carbon fiber, and polyurethane composites instead of metal, which impedes electricity’s ability to flow through the car and carried the current to the engine and the driver.


https://notallowedto.com/electric-car-gets-struck-by-lightning/
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Reply #244 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
ohhh jules
these r the other article's from this paper on the site...
(look up satire jules)
https://notallowedto.com/electric-car-gets-struck-by-lightning/..

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MAN TO BE EXECUTED FOR RUBBING HIS PENIS ON MAO ZEDONG’S CORPSE

yeah id say this jules post is totally legit....... Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #245 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 1:43pm
 
DDH is a classic troll posting ANYTHING just to try to seek attention all the time.

So uneducated and inarticulate and technically bereft the poor soul couldn't argue his/her way out of a wet paper bag.


Oh the crashing joys of driving an unproven still experimental Tesla crasher which uses the drivers as guinea pigs

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Reply #246 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 6:31am
 
Another Fake headline in a thread Jules. Name one person that has died from a Tesla catching fire.... Ohh wait, there MIGHT be 2 from those silly Teenagers hooning (the crash was horrific and they might have died from the crash) around but details haven't been realeased yet
It must suck to be on shakey ground and having to make stuff up.... Wink Wink
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Reply #247 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 1:28pm
 
Silly old DDH is trying unsuccessfully to use the standard boring weak as water childish tactics used by all Greeny types.

Now another Tesla fire trap crashes and burns in Holland. This is how Tesla "tests" their still experimental "cars". Use drivers as guinea pigs.

Anyone silly enough to risk their life in a Tesla should wear one of those fireproof suits like the racing drivers use.

How long before these dangerous death traps are banned ?




Mystery surrounds Tesla car crash which killed one man
Society September 7, 2016

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Yet another Tesla death trap joins that Great Car Junkyard up in the Sky.

Car maker Tesla is involved in investigating a fatal crash near Baarn on Wednesday morning in which one man died after his electric car hit a tree at high speed.

The crash happened at around 6am on a country road. It is unclear if the autopilot function on the car had been turned on and Tesla technical staff were called to the scene to carry out checks, broadcaster NOS said.

The electric car maker said the investigation is standard procedure.

‘Tesla is looking into the accident and will share the results with the public once the results are know,’ the company said in a statement.

The body of the dead man could not be removed from the car until the afternoon because the vehicle had been so seriously damaged and emergency service workers were concerned about being electrocuted.

Eyewitnesses told RTL news the car was on fire for at least 30 minutes after the crash.

Fireman also found it hard to extinguish the fire in part of the battery which came loose during the crash and ended up on the road, NOS said.

Emergency service workers are due to hold a news conference about the crash later on Wednesday.

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2016/09/mystery-surrounds-tesla-car-crash-which-ki...
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Reply #248 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 8:19am
 
https://insideevs.com/exploring-and-understanding-the-fire-risk-for-electric-car...
. . . gasoline powered cars are about 11 times more likely to catch fire than a Tesla. It says the best comparison is fires per 1 billion miles driven. It says the 300,000 Teslas on the road have been driven a total of 7.5 billion miles, and about 40 fires have been reported. That works out to five fires for every billion miles traveled, compared to a rate of 55 fires per billion miles traveled in gasoline cars.

The most promising news related to the study is that most fire risk associated with electric cars – which already seems to be minor in comparison to gas cars – can likely be a curtailed even further with new battery technology. Risser concluded:
Gasoline is a very risky material. We have had 130 years of designs and experience to make a gasoline powered vehicle as safe as possible. We’re still at early stages of understanding how to make lithium-ion batteries safe.

I know the Tesla 3 has a improved anti fire design and they r talking about enclosing the batteries in a liquid foam to stop gas buildup's
still early days and already safer than Gas Bombs  Wink Wink
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Reply #249 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 3:48pm
 
Forget the Tesla. The jaguar i-Pace is now out and is superior in almost every way. And being built by an actual experience car manufacturer it looks and drives much better. And the inside actually looks like a car. And unlike the stupid Tesla it still uses knobs and buttons for some features meaning you dont have to dive thru screen menus to adjust your side mirrors or adjust the temperature.

Vastly better car.
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Reply #250 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 3:48pm:
Forget the Tesla. The jaguar i-Pace is now out and is superior in almost every way. And being built by an actual experience car manufacturer it looks and drives much better. And the inside actually looks like a car. And unlike the stupid Tesla it still uses knobs and buttons for some features meaning you dont have to dive thru screen menus to adjust your side mirrors or adjust the temperature.

Vastly better car.

Well it was made years after the S and X if it wasn't better something would be wrong. Tell me how much of the car is made by them (battery etc) or is all just plug in's ?
yeah jag has almost bankrupted every car manufacturer that's taken it over (including when it was self run)  ,maybe the Indians can keep it afloat..... ohhh the Tesla S has over 300,000 made now , how many Electric jags... ok be fair what is their production schedule.
Hmm I don't see Jag in the top for customer satisfaction... Tesla is number one. Wink Wink
How many Jag's all up r sold in USA... must be heaps because they r soooooo good  Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #251 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
The usual meaningless attention seeking Greeny dribble from DDH.

LongWeekEnd,

Wonder if the Jag catches fire and burns the driver when it crashes like the Tesla does ?

Rear seat room is lousy in the Jag and it takes hours to recharge.


Review    https://www.motoring.com.au/jaguar-i-pace-2018-review-111429/



Take up in Australia will be very slow as electric is an expensive pain in the neck inconvenience with long recharge time and no recharge points.

And the already struggling power supply network wouldn't be able to cope with lots of electric heaps sucking goodness out of the power network and increasing pollution from the power stations.

And as many Australians in cities live in large blocks of units or park on the street they will have no charging facility at home.

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Reply #252 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:45am
 
juliar wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
The usual meaningless attention seeking Greeny dribble from DDH.

LongWeekEnd,

Wonder if the Jag catches fire and burns the driver when it crashes like the Tesla does ?

Rear seat room is lousy in the Jag and it takes hours to recharge.


Review    https://www.motoring.com.au/jaguar-i-pace-2018-review-111429/



Take up in Australia will be very slow as electric is an expensive pain in the neck inconvenience with long recharge time and no recharge points.

And the already struggling power supply network wouldn't be able to cope with lots of electric heaps sucking goodness out of the power network and increasing pollution from the power stations.

And as many Australians in cities live in large blocks of units or park on the street they will have no charging facility at home.



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any vehicle can catch fire in a collision. The tesla is no worse or any better than any other modern car. the iPace actually has excellent rear seat room and the Jag is going to set Tesla back on its bum. it is a better car in every regard and cheaper. And it is built better.
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Reply #253 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 1:22pm
 
LongWeekEnd,

did you read the review here ?

Review    https://www.motoring.com.au/jaguar-i-pace-2018-review-111429/

Back seat leg room is not too good according to this review. Also the COMMENTS after the article are quite illuminating,


All electric "cars" have the hazard of the lithium battery which will explode if impacted as can be seen in the many refs quoted in this thread where the Tesla bursts into flames after a collision.

Also the Tesla battery sometimes spontaneously catches fire while being charged as a spectacular fire at a charging station in Norway proves.

Rumors are the BMW all electric could be pretty good if you like that sort of overpriced inconvenient thing.

As the public becomes aware of the fire hazard inherent in all the all electric cars they will stay away in droves.
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Reply #254 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 3:25pm
 
Yeh socko any car can catch fire. Shall we ban fossil fool cars now ?

Check it out socko

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-fiat-chrysler-verdict-jeep/u-s-jury-awards-15...

U.S. jury awards $150 million for Jeep fuel-tank fire death


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A U.S. jury in Georgia on Thursday awarded $150 million to a family that sued Chrysler Group LLC for the 2012 death of their 4-year-old in a fiery crash involving a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a rear fuel tank.

Following a nearly two-week trial in Decatur County, Georgia, jurors said Chrysler, a unit of Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, was liable for the death of Remington Walden and failed to warn customers that the tank’s position could increase the risk of fire in a rear-end crash.

Chrysler previously recalled 1.56 million Jeep SUVs with rear fuel tanks, although the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee in which Walden was riding was not among them.

The jury, which began deliberating Thursday afternoon, said Chrysler acted with “reckless and wanton disregard” and ordered it to pay 99 percent of the damages. The driver of the vehicle that rear-ended the Grand Cherokee was responsible for the other 1 percent.

Walden was killed when the Jeep he was riding in was struck from behind, rupturing the fuel tank and creating an “inferno,” according to Jim Butler, a lawyer for the family. Had the fuel tank been placed farther forward on the vehicle, he said, it would have been better protected.

Concerns over fuel-tank placement prompted Chrysler to announce in 2013 that it would recall 1993-1998 Jeep Grand Cherokees, along with the Jeep Libertys from model years 2002-2007. The company also said it would conduct a “customer satisfaction campaign” for 1999-2004 Jeep Grand Cherokees.

The announcement came after Chrysler initially denied there was a safety issue. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has linked more than 50 deaths to the fuel-tank issues.

Chrysler’s lawyers said at trial that the fire did not cause Walden’s death and blamed the driver of the other vehicle. Fiat Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, whose pre-recorded testimony was played during trial, said that regulators never found a defect in the 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee and that there was no evidence the vehicle was dangerous. Reuters viewed the proceedings on Courtroom View Network.


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