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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #15 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:19pm:

When politicians do this they only succeed like Kelly here in making themselves look sneaky and dishonest, I have no idea why they do this to themselves.

Would you vote for a politician who accepted no pay?

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

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Reply #16 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #17 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses, perhaps an IQ test.. No Crassus.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #18 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #19 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #20 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #21 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:30pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

Because they a hogs. I'd happily serve on a low income and costs. I would not demand to be kept there. In fact if the people decided I should be gone, I'd be happy with that. I have no problem contributing to the country that has given me a pretty good life and i don't care that it has given some a more well off life than mine. Hell they would not even have to pay me a pollies pension with all it's benefits.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #22 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:32pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

Because they a hogs. I'd happily serve on a low income and costs. I would not demand to be kept there. In fact if the people decided I should be gone, I'd be happy with that. I have no problem contributing to the country that has given me a pretty good life and i don't care that it has given some a more well off life than mine. Hell they would not even have to pay me a pollies pension with all it's benefits.

Mmm, I don't believe you're that selfless.

I'll tell you what?

You give up your position as Moderator, and then I'll believe you.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #23 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:37pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

Because they a hogs. I'd happily serve on a low income and costs. I would not demand to be kept there. In fact if the people decided I should be gone, I'd be happy with that. I have no problem contributing to the country that has given me a pretty good life and i don't care that it has given some a more well off life than mine. Hell they would not even have to pay me a pollies pension with all it's benefits.

Mmm, I don't believe you're that selfless.

I'll tell you what?

You give up your position as Moderator, and then I'll believe you.

Talk to FD, I've already given it up but it was not accepted. I think I might be getting some support in this which would suit me. I'd be more than happy not to moderate. If you go back and look at posts when we were appointed it might enlighten. I can honestly say I hate this job.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #24 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:39pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:37pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

Because they a hogs. I'd happily serve on a low income and costs. I would not demand to be kept there. In fact if the people decided I should be gone, I'd be happy with that. I have no problem contributing to the country that has given me a pretty good life and i don't care that it has given some a more well off life than mine. Hell they would not even have to pay me a pollies pension with all it's benefits.

Mmm, I don't believe you're that selfless.

I'll tell you what?

You give up your position as Moderator, and then I'll believe you.

Talk to FD, I've already given it up but it was not accepted. I think I might be getting some support in this which would suit me. I'd be more than happy not to moderate. If you go back and look at posts when we were appointed it might enlighten. I can honestly say I hate this job.

So then, follow Gandhi and engage in Moderator disobedience. FD will have to remove you then.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #25 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:48pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:37pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:30pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:10pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:05pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:45pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 9:43pm:

Yeah, I would but it would depend. Voting for a billionaire that accepted no pay would be like voting for Crassus. I would vote for me and I'd take the equivalent of the aged pension plus expenses.

What if they were just an ordinary Joe Bloggs, then what?

Yes, aged pension or average wage and expenses. No Crassus.

Would you be willing to elect for a longer term because of their personal sacrifice?? Say, 10 years?

No, unless there was a clear and easy way to out them. 5 years maybe but that is too long without a way to rid ourselves of those that may get in and be bought.

So, do you understand then why politicians aren't that keen to be 'selfless' when the voter won't reward them for being puritanical?

Because they a hogs. I'd happily serve on a low income and costs. I would not demand to be kept there. In fact if the people decided I should be gone, I'd be happy with that. I have no problem contributing to the country that has given me a pretty good life and i don't care that it has given some a more well off life than mine. Hell they would not even have to pay me a pollies pension with all it's benefits.

Mmm, I don't believe you're that selfless.

I'll tell you what?

You give up your position as Moderator, and then I'll believe you.

Talk to FD, I've already given it up but it was not accepted. I think I might be getting some support in this which would suit me. I'd be more than happy not to moderate. If you go back and look at posts when we were appointed it might enlighten. I can honestly say I hate this job.

So then, follow Gandhi and engage in Moderator disobedience. FD will have to remove you then.

That's not what will happen. People will start abusing each other, I will ignore it and it will get worse. It's bad enough as it is. Feel free to petition FD to find someone to replace me, I'll support you.

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Re: Kelly O'Dwyer won't concede Government was wrong
Reply #26 - Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:50pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 23^rd, 2018 at 10:48pm: