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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #570 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:43pm Hmmm hottest year in Tassie, was it? And after a La Nina too!
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Reply #571 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:07pm

Hey Booby, did you see I found another LIE by Dubyne?

GCRs do NOT affect the climate, cloud chambers invented in 1911 or not.

Cosmic rays do not affect weather and they certainly do not affect vulcanism or earthquakes that are started way down deep in the mantle. Another lie by Dubyne!

I think that brings the number of obvious lies to seven. Oh dear

Now, given that Dubyne LIED and said the Arctic did not warm this NH winter just past, AND he said “Arctic temperatures are recovering” can you now tell me WHAT were Arctic temperatures recovering FROM?

Or do you agree Dubyne LIED to you?

Failure to answer obviously shows you know, but don’t want to admit, that Dubyne LIED to you.

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Reply #572 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:41pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Models are fine for such huge things as ice sheets, models are pretty good these days.

where they can hide the piddling +/-5% or so?

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

I think you will find it is the acceleration of the melt that is of concern.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 7:29am:

But it is located in an extremely remote area, and the critical region that will determine how fast the glacier retreats — the “grounding line” where ocean, ice and bedrock meet at 2,600-foot depths — remains little studied.

And then model the unknowns.

First there has to be warming above 0C. And no refreeze at night on ice sheets.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #573 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:45pm Totten glacier has been undercut for kilometers by warm currents. Jesus, you think 5% error on a glacier 150Km across is a big deal? The ice would likely be a kilometre deep and goodness knows how long.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #574 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:45pm: Totten glacier has been undercut for kilometers by warm currents. Found by scuba diving?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #575 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:48pm Why don’t you read up on it?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #576 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:53pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Hmmm hottest year in Tassie, was it? And after a La Nina too! Hmm Can't read again. 7th warmest.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #577 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:54pm Read up on the Totten yet?
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Reply #578 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:11pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 5:48pm:

Why don’t you read up on it?

Oh you mean the one that used satellite altimetry to determine tunnelling UNDER the ice?

You do understand the altimetry measures from the satellite to the TOP of the ice? Wink

Oh, I see they used ice penetrating radar over the course of 12 years. Was this the same unmodified ice penetrating radar each time or was it enhanced over the years? You know accuracy improvement etc.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #579 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:16pm So wrong, as usual. Do some READING Lees.
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Reply #580 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:18pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:16pm:

So wrong, as usual.

Do some READING Lees.

lee wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Oh, I see they used ice penetrating radar over the course of 12 years. Was this the same unmodified ice penetrating radar each time or was it enhanced over the years? You know accuracy improvement etc.

Of course you might not be referring to the Alley study. But who knows what goes on in that tiny mind of yours.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #581 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:19pm Found Tassie the warmest year yet?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #582 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:20pm So no reading yet?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #583 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:25pm Jovial Monk wrote on May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:20pm: So no reading yet? So it wasn't the Alley study?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21681 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #584 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 6:38pm It can't be this one - "Repeated large-scale retreat and advance of Totten Glacier indicated by inland bed erosion" http://www.nature.com/articles/nature17447 because that is bed erosion and not ice.
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