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Reply #330 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:17pm:
Is snippy actually modding Fringe or should a better Mod be appointed?

Real Estate, Games, toolshed. and other boards are moribund, maybe appoint new Mods there too?

Environment is dead, appoint Barnacle Mod there then Booby can Mod Fringe. Better all round, I think. Food, Travel and Women’s Issues also are moribund and need a new Mod to breathe some life into them.



JM the moderator for women's issues.
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Reply #331 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:17pm:
Is snippy actually modding Fringe or should a better Mod be appointed?

Real Estate, Games, toolshed. and other boards are moribund, maybe appoint new Mods there too?

Environment is dead, appoint Barnacle Mod there then Booby can Mod Fringe. Better all round, I think. Food, Travel and Women’s Issues also are moribund and need a new Mod to breathe some life into them.


Yes we need that mod that threw a tanti and deleted every topic on his board!

Who was that again?  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #332 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 5:01pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:56pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 4:17pm:
Is snippy actually modding Fringe or should a better Mod be appointed?

Real Estate, Games, toolshed. and other boards are moribund, maybe appoint new Mods there too?

Environment is dead, appoint Barnacle Mod there then Booby can Mod Fringe. Better all round, I think. Food, Travel and Women’s Issues also are moribund and need a new Mod to breathe some life into them.


Yes we need that mod that threw a tanti and deleted every topic on his board!

Who was that again?  Grin Grin Grin Grin


Monk. 


Bad decision....made the wrong call, lesson learned....but...totally understandable given the way GMod hicks was relentlessly trolling and stalking there.

As a GMod, Hicks was way out of order, went out of his way to provoke Monk, and Monk reacted as provoked.  He was wrong.  I reckon he knows it.

I detest GMod interference here, but I deal with it differently.
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Reply #333 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
Disagree, but ancient history.

But there are boards just sitting there, no activity. Others mismanaged.

I have said publicly more than once that I do not wish to Mod any board here.
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Reply #334 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 9:30am
 
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Seven Inches of Snow Dumped on Northeast as Another Major Arctic Warm-Up is Underway


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Warm winds driving northward over eastern Siberia, on the back side of a high pressure ridge, are delivering yet one more big dose of near or above freezing temperatures to this Arctic region. From the Chukchi Sea through the Bering Strait and on into East Siberia, temperatures range from 10 to 22 degrees Celsius above average. The Bering itself has been mostly swept clean of sea ice — with severe record low ice extent readings for this zone during early April.

Throughout winter, the Bering and Chukchi have received wave after wave of much warmer than normal air from the ocean zone to the south. This tendency for warm air propagating northward through the Pacific is one that is often triggered by La Nina — a periodic pattern of Pacific Equatorial surface water cooling that became a dominant feature of 2018 winter weather. However, globally warmer than normal ocean waters and, in particular, much warmer than normal sea surface temperatures in the Northeastern Pacific appear to have greatly enhanced the heat influx.


As an April snowstorm strikes the U.S. Northeast, major global weather stories related to climate change are unfolding in real time. For today, we again find that none of the key climate zones feature below average temperatures even as a ten-day-long Arctic warm spell appears to be on tap.

Very Warm Arctic in Early April

(Another big Arctic warm-up drives cold air southward. The result is snow over the U.S. Northeast even as parts of the Arctic Ocean are experiencing an early thaw. Image source: Climate Reanalyzer.)

Warm winds driving northward over eastern Siberia, on the back side of a high pressure ridge, are delivering yet one more big dose of near or above freezing temperatures to this Arctic region. From the Chukchi Sea through the Bering Strait and on into East Siberia, temperatures range from 10 to 22 degrees Celsius above average. The Bering itself has been mostly swept clean of sea ice — with severe record low ice extent readings for this zone during early April. [/quote]

https://robertscribbler.com/2018/04/02/seven-inches-of-snow-dumped-on-northeast-...

The snake oil seller and others of his ilk have been promoting the cold NE of US as sign of an ice age, of course  Roll Eyes Not telling the full story as that would destroy their spiel, their pitch to the gullible for donations and ad revenue for their YouTube channels.

But weather has a cause. Globally, temperatures have not dropped. While parts of some areas are below average temperatures parts of other areas are above average temperatures. The driver, AGW, is always active and increasing.

The ice age nonsense is past its sell by date.
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Reply #335 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 10:33am
 
Have tweeted the info in reply to tweets by the ice age snake oil sellers.

Should make their day.
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Reply #336 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:09am
 
10 Types of Internet Trolls You'll Meet Online

https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-internet-trolls-3485894

I've been saying that lee is a troll for a while now and this is the perfect description of him


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The Persistent Debate Troll

This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message. They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
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Reply #337 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:44am
 
I have been on some robust forums, I have never seen any forum like this, where insinuations of peadophelia have been so prevalent and until recently so tolerated. 

Normally the mere suggestion is stamped on with extreme prejudice.
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Reply #338 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:45am
 
I know. I posted details of a summary on sea level rise based on tidal gauge data. He got a shock, I suppose, then posted some crap based on satellite data and that was supposed to negate my paper.

Best ignored tho that doesn’t stop him posting crap.
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Reply #339 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:47am
 
I replied to your post about Dubyne being a snake oil seller. Then realised we had posted in the Dubyne MBR so I nulled my post before Booby could change it.
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Reply #340 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 11:54am
 
Dubyne does make me laugh occasionally. He will talk with po-faced seriousness of the pattern (drought or cold etc) in the Himalayas or Alaska now is exactly the same as in the Maunder Minimum, as if there were any weather stations in those areas then  Smiley  But they are safely remote and no locals to speak up and tell him he is talking crap.
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Reply #341 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 12:05pm
 
I'm interested to see what Bobby does with my post
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Reply #342 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
We will see, I expect it to be changed if not deleted holus bolus.

He NEVER debates the ice age nonsense or climatology etc, then claims high science qualifications. Someone must have told him the feedback nonsense because he never gave his own and got the consequence of the Gulf Stream stopping totally wrong.
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Reply #343 - Apr 22nd, 2018 at 12:26pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 12:15pm:
We will see, I expect it to be changed if not deleted holus bolus.

He NEVER debates the ice age nonsense or climatology etc, then claims high science qualifications. Someone must have told him the feedback nonsense because he never gave his own and got the consequence of the Gulf Stream stopping totally wrong.



Has the Gulf Stream stopped?
Has there been a slowdown?

Not according to the observations.

But the the earth's systems are dynamic, one can only guess at any perturbations.

Just look at the moving feast of the loss of sea ice. Wink
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The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) is a system of ocean currents that has an essential role in Earth’s climate, redistributing heat and influencing the carbon cycle1,2.  The AMOC has been shown to be weakening in recent years1; this decline may reflect decadal-scale variability in convection in the Labrador Sea, but short observational datasets preclude a longer-term perspective on the modern state and variability of Labrador Sea convection and the AMOC1,3–5. Here we provide several lines of palaeo-oceanographic evidence that Labrador Sea deep convection and the AMOC have been anomalously weak over the past 150 years or so (since the end of the Little Ice Age, LIA, approximately 1850) compared with the preceding 1,500 years. Our palaeoclimate reconstructions indicate that the transition occurred either as a predominantly abrupt shift towards the end of the LIA, or as a more gradual, continued decline over the past 150 years; this ambiguity probably arises from non-AMOC influences on the various proxies or from the different sensitivities of these proxies to individual components of the AMOC. We suggest that enhanced freshwater fluxes from the Arctic and Nordic seas towards the end of the LIA—sourced from melting glaciers and thickened sea ice that developed earlier in the LIA—weakened Labrador Sea convection and the AMOC. The lack of a subsequent recovery may have resulted from hysteresis or from twentieth-century melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet6. Our results suggest that recent decadal variability in Labrador Sea convection and the AMOC has occurred during an atypical, weak background state. Future work should aim to constrain the roles of internal climate variability and early anthropogenic forcing in the AMOC weakening described here.


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0007-4.epdf

Seems that the AMOC is weakening. The North Atlantic is 9°C warmer than average in the part where the Gulf Stream flows, sign of a slowed Gulf Stream.
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