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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21679 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #165 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:20pm Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:18pm: Well.....if you are going to snipe....best to be accurate....and I remain uncertain that you are. About what? Is it not linked? I try to link all my "snipes"
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Reply #166 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:22pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:12pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:59pm:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/observations/vicall.shtml

Mildura 39.3 at 2-54pm

Sorry that shows Mildura 10/4/2018

So why arn't you being so obsessive about Bobby's ice age nonsense?

Because that is in the future; and I don't read tea leaves.

That hasn't stopped you trolling anyone who makes WARMING forecasts
Face it lee you are a hypocrite and a troll who will post any garbage to protect the coal industry

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Reply #167 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:23pm

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Well.....if you are going to snipe....best to be accurate....and I remain uncertain that you are.

About what? Is it not linked? I try to link all my "snipes" Wink

I can't see what your link is supposed to demonstrate in terms of date and time. Might just be me.

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Reply #168 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:26pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

That hasn't stopped you trolling anyone who makes WARMING forecasts

Did I post links? Or did I decry the Global Climate Models that haven't been correct yet?

You really should try to validate your arguments.

The_Barnacle wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:22pm:

Face it lee you are a hypocrite and a troll who will post any garbage to protect the coal industry

Really? Do try a direct quote it carries so much more weight than just verbiage.

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Reply #169 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 11:48pm

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Dr Robert Larter, a marine geophysicist at British Antarctic Survey (BAS), who flew over the PIG rift last season during his research cruise with the German Alfred Wegener Institute, explains:

"What we're witnessing on Pine Island Glacier is worrying. We're now seeing changes in the calving behaviour of the ice shelf, when for 68 years we saw a pattern of advance and retreat resulting in the calving of a single large iceberg which left the ice front to approximately the same place. The calving of icebergs in 2001, 2007 and 2013 are well documented. Each calving event returned the ice front to more or less the same position and the ice shelf flowed into the sea again. But with continuing thinning it was clear that sooner or later there would have to be a change to this pattern – and this is what we are witnessing now."

This change started with the 2015 calving event, which resulted in retreat of the northern part of the ice shelf about 20 km beyond its previous most landward position and reorientation of the ice front. Previously the ice front had always been aligned almost north-south and suddenly it changed to an approximately NE-SW alignment. The new calving position and ice front orientation were controlled by a new rift which had appeared in the ice shelf only about a year earlier. A second, parallel rift had formed further upstream at the same time and it is this one which has controlled the latest calving event.

Dr Larter continues: "If the ice shelf continues to thin and the ice front continues to retreat, its buttressing effect on PIG will diminish, which is likely to lead to further dynamic thinning and retreat of the glacier. PIG already makes the largest contribution to sea-level rise of any single Antarctic glacier and the fact that its bed increases in depth upstream for more than 200 km means there is the possibility of runway retreat that would result in an even bigger contribution to sea level."

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-large-iceberg-island-glacier.html

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Reply #170 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 8:37am

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 9:34pm:

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I'm still guessing that we've got a very cold winter ahead of us.

Oh....snake oil crap, then. Gee, I can guess too, Bobby, and I do not pretend to a paying audience that I am some sort of expert, like you and Dubybe do.

Bobby has already decided that this will be a very cold winter so just like he did last year he will see a couple of frosts at his house and declare that this is evidence of an impending global ice age.

All very scientific of course Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #171 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 9:14am The dupe tries to make himself believe in the ice age else Dubyne is wrong or lying and then what?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #172 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 9:16am Love that forecast of a cold winter, all to do with sun spots, just like this NH winter was the result of sunspots, nothing to do with warm air invading the Arctic and pushing the Arctic air east and south, or a static Jet Stream pattern and very warm North Atlantic creating the series of North Easters. All blah.
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Reply #173 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 9:52am

Great TEDx talk at the University of Manitoba.

Dated 2014, have a look:

What fascinated me was the talk of changes to the Polar Vortex in light of what happened this year—a split in the Vortex!

A “nice” little feedback loop is operating in the Arctic: as more and more open ocean appears due to the retreat in sea ice there is more evaporation and consequently more snowfall. Snow that falls in the open ocean does nothing, snow that falls on sea ice stays there and insulates the sea ice from the winter cold and consequently the sea ice cannot grow thicker and reduces in thickness due to the Arctic Ocean warming.

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Reply #174 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:01pm

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-large-iceberg-island-glacier.html

So now you are denying what the recent (2018) papers says about Pine Island?

"However, it appears that the notorious Pine Island Glacier – one of the fastest retreating glaciers around the turn of the millennium – has now stabilised, showing that extreme speeds are not necessarily sustained."

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-using-satellites-to-track-the-retreat-of-...

Ice shelf glacier falling into the sea, Fournier Bay, Antarctica. Credit: Radharc Images / Alamy Stock Photo.
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Guest post: Using satellites to track the retreat of Antarctica’s glaciers

Dr Hannes Konrad - One of the authors of the 2018 paper of which you were so recently enamoured.

Have you backed off from that one?

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Reply #175 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:36pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:23pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Well.....if you are going to snipe....best to be accurate....and I remain uncertain that you are.

About what? Is it not linked? I try to link all my "snipes" Wink

I can't see what your link is supposed to demonstrate in terms of date and time. Might just be me.

which link?

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Reply #176 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:44pm

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:23pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Well.....if you are going to snipe....best to be accurate....and I remain uncertain that you are.

About what? Is it not linked? I try to link all my "snipes" Wink

I can't see what your link is supposed to demonstrate in terms of date and time. Might just be me.

which link?

Can't recall.

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Reply #177 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 3:55pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:44pm:

lee wrote on Apr 11^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:23pm:

lee wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Well.....if you are going to snipe....best to be accurate....and I remain uncertain that you are.

About what? Is it not linked? I try to link all my "snipes" Wink

I can't see what your link is supposed to demonstrate in terms of date and time. Might just be me.

which link?

Can't recall.

Then it must be you. Wink

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39957 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #178 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 4:06pm It was something to do with Mildura.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21679 Gender:	Re: Relationship to the truth Reply #179 - Apr 11^th, 2018 at 4:46pm Aussie wrote on Apr 11^th, 2018 at 4:06pm: It was something to do with Mildura. Oh. I put the link in for Mildura Airport. With the dates. It seems BoM has reduced the temperature data for those hottest ever temperatures.
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