Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 1:20pm:



Nowhere does it mention smog.

2012? 6 years ago. How many old cars have been "retired" to be replaced bu newer ones?

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:13pm:


Not part of your original post.

You do know "can contribute" is not the same as "does contribute", in all circumstances?

And if you can find where I have said that " the sh.t that comes out of a tail pipe is good stuff "; please do so. I have denied nothing.

"Australia is on track to overachieve on its 2020 target by 294 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (Mt CO2-e), inclusive of carryover, or 166 Mt CO2-e without carryover.

This is an improvement on the 2016 projections, which estimated an overachievement of 224 Mt CO2-e.

https://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/eb62f30f-3e0f-4bfa-bb7a-c8...

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:


Actually it says that is responsible for the early deaths of people.

That is a statistical measure, because no one can know how "early" people die as opposed to the "normal" death of these same people.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:



Yes. Well the Chinese have been so concerned they are only just starting to build modern coal fired plants. It is why they close the plants when a big conference is on, bu
to allow the traffic to still run.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:


You were talking pollution, which is generally particle related. CO isn't a particle.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 2:58pm:



Perhaps you need to look at the longevity of Teslas to confirm that suspicion.

"Graves says the lifespan of a car is determined by how much it costs to repair it so it remains roadworthy. Once a car costs too much to repair, it becomes a parts car, no matter how much of its useful life remains in theory. Graves believes that a Tesla will very quickly be more expensive to repair than they are worth. Despite Tesla’s claim that each vehicle will have a power train capable of withstanding 1 million miles, few if any owners will keep a vehicle for that long. They simply won’t be able to afford to.

Graves highlights the lack of aftermarket parts and independent repair shops as two factors likely to make repairing high mileage Teslas prohibitively expensive. Only Massachusetts has passed legislation requiring all manufacturers to make their repair and service manuals available to owners and repair shops."

https://www.teslarati.com/contrarian-viewpoint-on-tesla-longevity/

Then of course there are suspension breakages.

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 3:29pm:


Ok so one of many deadly poisons in diesel helped kill 6000 Germans, much better
CO isn’t a partical so when it kills u it’s not a pollution got it

Ok the lifetime of a low make BMW or Mercedes have long lives and plenty of spaces,they are model S competitors

The vehicle, affectionately named “eHawk”, hit the 300,000 milestone on Tuesday August 29th, 2017. Tesloop’s fleet, which, other than this car, is comprised of exclusively Tesla Model X vehicles, travel as much as 17,000 miles per car each month.

“At Tesloop, we are leveraging Tesla’s next generation transportation platform to deliver the mobility experience of the future, today” said Haydn Sonnad, Tesloop founder. “The electric drivetrain, when coupled with a vast supercharging network, enables a level of vehicle utilization that is not possible with your typical gas car. When these are combined with increasingly sophisticated driving autonomy features and deep connectivity, a whole new approach to mobility can be offered.”

During the first 300,000 miles the total combined maintenance and fuel costs of the Tesla Model S were $10,492, with a total of 12 days in the shop. Of these costs, $6,900 was scheduled maintenance and $3500 was headlight damage due to driving through deep water. Had this been an Mercedes S class, the scheduled routine maintenance and fuel would have been $86,000 ($52,000 maintenance and $36,000* fuel) with 112 days of servicing, or for a Lincoln Town Car $70k,000 ($28,000 maintenance and $42,000** fuel) with around 100 days of servicing.
Ouch that’s 500,000 kms , the model S has 80% less parts than a normal car, so lot less chance of things breaking, yes battery would be expensive , then again if a motor goes on a new vehicular u might as well throw it too.
Not sure what this has to do with the virtue of a Tesla owner.

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:


Ok so your telling me u think ICE vehicals don’t have damaging exhaust emissions or just the example I used was not very good ?
No I did becouse if the Tesla have 80% less moving parts that would be the only prohibitively expending thing that could stop it being usable to my thinking.

lee wrote on Apr 8^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:


Ok maybe quote the whole sentence


Ok so your telling me u think ICE vehicals don’t have damaging exhaust emissions or just the example I used was not very good ?
A answer of nope to that confuses me

Ok so that happened 2 years ago what was the findings ?

Or you could try -

"Tesla Is Recalling 123,000 Model S Sedans. Here's Why"

http://fortune.com/2018/03/29/tesla-recall-125000-model-s/