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Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:32pm
 
Elon Musk's Tesla and SA Labor reach deal to give solar panels and batteries to 50,000 homes
By political reporter Nick Harmsen

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Photo: Elon Musk and Jay Weatherill reach a deal to give batteries and solar panels to 50,000 homes.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-04/elon-musk-tesla-to-give-solar-panels-batte...

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At least 50,000 homes in SA will be given solar panels and batteries in a scheme by Elon Musk's Tesla and the SA Government to build the world's largest virtual power plant, slashing household power bills in the process.

Under the deal unveiled by Premier Jay Weatherill ahead of the March state election, solar systems and batteries will be supplied and installed free of charge.

The cost of the project will be financed through the sale of electricity, generated by the panels, in what Mr Weatherill said would be the largest project of its kind.

The Government will this week issue an expression of interest for a retailer to deliver the program, with the intention of bringing additional competition to the market.

The retailer will have the right to tap output of the household batteries and solar panels to supply power into the grid.

A trial of the scheme in 1,100 Housing Trust properties has already begun.


Following the trial, a further 24,000 systems are set to be installed in Housing Trust properties.

A similar deal would then be offered to all South Australian households, with at least 50,000 systems to be installed within four years.

    "We will use people's homes as a way to generate energy for the South Australian grid, with participating households benefitting with significant savings in their energy bills," Mr Weatherill said.

The scale of the project will eclipse Canberra's Reposit Power Virtual Power Plant, which connects 250 homes and businesses to the grid, as well as similar schemes by AGL and SA Power Networks.

Mr Weatherill said analysis by economic consultancy firm Frontier Economics showed the 250 megawatt system in South Australia would lower energy bills for participating households by 30 per cent.

"More renewable energy means cheaper power for all South Australians," Mr Weatherill said.

"My government has already delivered the world's biggest battery. Now we will deliver the world's largest virtual power plant."

What this project will do is connect thousands of solar and battery systems to make one giant, coordinated virtual power plant," Energy Minister Tom Koutsantonis said.
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Reply #1 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm
 
What a visionary Elon Musk is. We need more people like that here instead of dumbarse property flippers and real estate maggots Sad
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Reply #2 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:36pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
What a visionary Elon Musk is. We need more people like that here instead of dumbarse property flippers and real estate maggots Sad



You're right Nail,
South Australia had their problems but before long we'll all be copying them as
their new power delivery systems come on line.

It took Elon Musk to show us the way.
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Reply #3 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:41pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
What a visionary Elon Musk is.


I thought he was laughing all the way to the bank.

Last time I looked he is not giving all this stuff away. 

I think he is a masterful marketeer.   He could sell ice to the eskimos.
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Reply #4 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:42pm
 
hatman92 wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
What a visionary Elon Musk is.


I thought he was laughing all the way to the bank.

Last time I looked he is not giving all this stuff away. 

I think he is a masterful marketeer.   He could sell ice to the eskimos.



Good on him - making money out of renewable energy instead
of lighting up stinking coal.
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Reply #5 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
Mr Weatherill said analysis by economic consultancy firm Frontier Economics showed the 250 megawatt system in South Australia would lower energy bills for participating households by 30 per cent.


Currently 37.79c/Kwh.  We will see what happens.
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Reply #6 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:51pm
 
But there's more:


South Australia leads the way.


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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-14/solar-thermal-power-plant-announcement-for...

Solar thermal power plant announced for Port Augusta 'biggest of its kind in the world'

Updated 14 Aug 2017, 6:51pm


A 150-megawatt solar thermal power plant has been secured for Port Augusta in South Australia, State Premier Jay Weatherill has announced.

Construction of the $650 million plant will start in 2018.
Aurora facts:

    150-megawatt solar thermal power with eight hours of storage
    Plant will deliver 495 gigawatt hours of power annually, or 5 per cent of SA's energy needs
    Equivalent to powering more than 90,000 homes
    Located 30 kilometres north of Port Augusta
    Company says it is "completely emission free"


Mr Weatherill said the Aurora Solar Energy Project would be ready to go in 2020 and would supply 100 per cent of the State Government's needs.

The Government will pay a maximum of $78 per megawatt hour.

Mr Weatherill said the solar thermal plant was "the biggest of its kind in the world".

"Importantly, this project will deliver more than 700 jobs, with requirements for local workers," he said.

In September 2016, the Government launched a tender process to procure 75 per cent of its long-term power supply.

It said it wanted to attract a new competitor onto the market and put downward pressure on electricity prices.

The Government contract with United States operator Solar Reserve will last for 20 years, and was the "lowest cost option" of shortlisted bids for the project.

The maximum Government load is 125MW, meaning the plant will be able to supply other customers.

"This, in addition to our state-owned gas plant, and the world's largest lithium ion battery, will help to make our energy grid more secure," Mr Weatherill said.


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Reply #7 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
What a visionary Elon Musk is. We need more people like that here instead of dumbarse property flippers and real estate maggots Sad



You're right Nail,
South Australia had their problems but before long we'll all be copying them as
their new power delivery systems come on line.

It took Elon Musk to show us the way.


utter bullshit...

myself and others on this forum have been saying this for 4 to 5 years at least...

MOST PEOPLE WON'T LISTEN AND ARE TOO STUPID TO SAVE THEMSELVES..

I've put up thread after thread begging forum members to sign up to solar when rebates feeding tariffs were .60c

only one person that I know of on this forum took up the offer...

the rest of you just pissed and moaned and did NOTHING TO IMPROVE YOUR LIFE...  Angry

then you pissed and moaned again when I displayed my Solar Checks of up to over $600

now Musk comes along and gets people to put solar on the roof of their houses people start creaming their jocks??

wake up  Angry Angry Angry

I've said time and again that there should be no houses allowed to be built without solar panels on it as part of the NEW build...

one again.. falls on DEAF ears..  Angry Angry Angry

whats that saying about leading a horse to water???  Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:55pm
 
Quick get a Kentucky Fried franchise down there. They can cut down on overheads. Wink
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Reply #9 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
dear Mechanic - I've been supporting renewable energy for at least 15 years.
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Reply #10 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 3:42pm
 
I like this idea.. the Solar Train...

however.. I somewhat call Bullshit.. there is not enough panels to run the train on its roof or to recharge the batteries at an acceptable rate...

look at the shed beside it..

http://byronbaytrain.com.au
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Reply #11 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 3:51pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:42pm:
Good on him - making money out of renewable energy instead
of lighting up stinking coal.


Actually I believe a lot of his money is made out of government subsidies.



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Reply #12 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 3:58pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
I like this idea.. the Solar Train...

however.. I somewhat call Bullshit.. there is not enough panels to run the train on its roof or to recharge the batteries at an acceptable rate...

look at the shed beside it..

http://byronbaytrain.com.au


Yes agree, maybe the train has massive batteries charged by the shed
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 5:37pm
 
"The giant Ivanpah solar power plant in the California Mojave Desert recently detailed how much natural gas it burned to generate power when the sun wasn’t sufficient – the equivalent to 46,000 tons of CO2 emissions in its first year, according to reports.

Along with its impacts on wildlife and its receipt of federal incentives, news of the CO2 emissions has renewed criticism of the 377-megawatt facility, which supplies 140,000 California homes during peak hours of the day."

"Critics rightly note that Ivanpah’s natural gas use and associated emissions are far higher than originally anticipated, with gas-fired auxiliary power now at times needed 4.5 hours per day rather than one as originally expected. Some critics specifically attack the use of natural gas with solar as “dirty power.” "

https://theconversation.com/if-a-solar-plant-uses-natural-gas-is-it-still-green-...
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Reply #14 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
This story - the opening post - was on ABC news just now.

Guess what?

Malcolm Turnbull had nothing nice to say about it.
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Reply #15 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
This story - the opening post - was on ABC news just now.

Guess what?

Malcolm Turnbull had nothing nice to say about it.



Why should he? It is a state prerogative. Nothing to do with the Commonwealth.
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hatman92 wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
What a visionary Elon Musk is.


I thought he was laughing all the way to the bank.

Last time I looked he is not giving all this stuff away. 

I think he is a masterful marketeer.   He could sell ice to the eskimos.


at least he has got ice to sell to the eskimos !! What has this lot here got to sell ? They can't even make motor cars without paying rent-a-job from Detroit to come here and make them for them Sad
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Reply #17 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:07pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
This story - the opening post - was on ABC news just now.

Guess what?

Malcolm Turnbull had nothing nice to say about it.


And yet turncoats Point Piper mansion is fully decked out with solar PV and battery storage. He thinks everyone is so stupid not to see through his fakery. Fortunately for turncoat most of his supporters are braindead like lee here.
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Reply #18 - Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:08pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
This story - the opening post - was on ABC news just now.

Guess what?

Malcolm Turnbull had nothing nice to say about it.


And yet turncoats Point Piper mansion is fully decked out with solar PV and battery storage. He thinks everyone is so stupid not to see through his fakery. Fortunately for turncoat most of his supporters are braindead like lee here.



Good point Nail.
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Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 4th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
And yet turncoats Point Piper mansion is fully decked out with solar PV and battery storage. He thinks everyone is so stupid not to see through his fakery. Fortunately for turncoat most of his supporters are braindead like lee here.



So how much has he supplied to the grid if any? Is he scamming money off the government via the subsidies?

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Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?
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Reply #21 - Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?


I see thousands of houses being built in Victoria without solar panels on top...

hard to believe..

it seems electricity prices are not a problem to these people...

im eagerly waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 to come out...

also the solar roof...
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Reply #22 - Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:53pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?


I see thousands of houses being built in Victoria without solar panels on top...

hard to believe..

it seems electricity prices are not a problem to these people...

im eagerly waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 to come out...

also the solar roof...



The Govt. should reduce the stamp duty for people installing solar panels and or batteries.

On a million dollar house the stamp duty is 4% or  $40,000.

A fraction of that would buy a solar panel system.
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?


I see thousands of houses being built in Victoria without solar panels on top...

hard to believe..

it seems electricity prices are not a problem to these people...

im eagerly waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 to come out...

also the solar roof...


The weird thing is, I have spoken to people before (back in my more naive years) about the idea of having new houses built with solar panels. No one seemed all that interested in having that feature as standard for new houses. Perhaps there is some deal going with the power companies to leave it to the new home owners to decide if they want solar panels or not. Seriously, if I had the option of having solar panels on my roof in a new home, I would want to have solar panels and pay them off in my mortgage.
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?


I see thousands of houses being built in Victoria without solar panels on top...

hard to believe..

it seems electricity prices are not a problem to these people...

im eagerly waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 to come out...

also the solar roof...



The Govt. should reduce the stamp duty for people installing solar panels and or batteries.

On a million dollar house the stamp duty is 4% or  $40,000.

A fraction of that would buy a solar panel system.


If you were rich enough to buy a million dollar house, you would be rich enough to install solar panels. Especially when you are going to have at least 4 air conditioners through the home just to keep your avocados, entertainment system, and pool table cool.
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Reply #25 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:47am
 
Didn't Weatherill promise solar for public housing prior to the last election?

Might be wrong but I vaguely remember something about it.  Shocked
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:17am:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 6th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
Are solar powered homes not a big thing down in South Oz?


I see thousands of houses being built in Victoria without solar panels on top...

hard to believe..

it seems electricity prices are not a problem to these people...

im eagerly waiting for the Tesla Power Wall 3 to come out...

also the solar roof...



The Govt. should reduce the stamp duty for people installing solar panels and or batteries.

On a million dollar house the stamp duty is 4% or  $40,000.

A fraction of that would buy a solar panel system.


If you were rich enough to buy a million dollar house, you would be rich enough to install solar panels. Especially when you are going to have at least 4 air conditioners through the home just to keep your avocados, entertainment system, and pool table cool.



No one has a million dollars - they borrow it including borrowing
the exorbitant amount for the stamp duty.
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Reply #27 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:33pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:53am:
No one has a million dollars - they borrow it including borrowing the exorbitant amount for the stamp duty.


I will put it another way. If you were DUMB enough to buy a million dollar home, you would want to get solar panels attached to help power the 4 airconditioners you have throughout your home.

I would not suggest that even millionaires would not go through the banks to buy a million dollar home. Multimillionaires would probably do bank transfers for a million dollar home. And they would be careful about what they attach to their homes to help power it.
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