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Feb 8th, 2018 at 8:39pm
 
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Tesla staggering $1 billion loss

in just three months
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ELECTRIC car company Tesla has posted a staggering quarterly loss that amounts to nearly A$1 billion.


The US$780 million quarterly loss (A$997 million) is in the wake of the huge production problems that have slowed the flow of its blockbuster car to a trickle.

The quarterly loss gives Tesla an annual loss of US$2.2 billion and mounting debt.
  Shocked

Confessing the debt to the markets on Thursday morning Australian time, Tesla admitted it has been
“overconfident” and “complacent”.



Tesla has been losing an incredible amount of money recently.

Production issues have caused Tesla to fall well behind schedule on its Model 3 car, which is intended to be a mass-market offering.

The company aimed to make 5000 cars a week by the end of 2017 but could only manage to deliver a few thousand in total during the year.

It is now working to rectify its mistakes by importing new production equipment from Germany to replace the problematic equipment at its battery factory.

The problems can be traced back to a rapid set of timelines that saw Tesla rush to achieve high levels of production.

Musk admitted on Thursday he had been too ambitious in the past.

“We were probably a little overconfident, we were complacent,” he said, admitting that fixing all the mistakes had caused “a lot of pain”.

“Pain level is extremely high. I was in the gigafactory on Thanksgiving day,” he said.

Tesla’s delays put the company in an uncomfortable situation. The company borrowed a lot of money to build itself up, and it needs to sell lots of cars to pay the money back. Each delay costs more money while deferring the money-making phase. That can’t go on forever.

Tesla has US$9.5 billion worth of long-term debt and capital leases on its books, and an interest bill on its debt of nearly half a billon dollars a year. Even if it doesn’t borrow more, that bill could be set to rise as US interest rates go up.

On Thursday, however,
Tesla CEO Musk
was seeing the bright side. He willingly admitted his enormous automated battery factory — the “alien dreadnought” gigafactory — was failing to operate properly.

Two of four zones “flat out didn’t work”, he said. But he was finding solace in an unexpected place – by seeing that humans could actually operate better than robots.

“We have a semi-automatic line which is a series of small automated stations manned by people. And they have actually been remarkably effective,” he said. “It has renewed my faith in humanity.”

The man who wanted to banish most humans from the production facility altogether is instead finding them very useful and highly capable.

“The rapid evolution of progress and the ability of people to adapt rapidly is quite remarkable. Our semi-automatic line is exceeding all three of the automatic lines.”

Still, Mr Musk didn’t want to give the impression that the batteries were being made like custom furniture or wood-fired pizzas.

“It is not artisanal!” he joked.

Musk, who has been regularly blowing away competitors in the space industry with his company SpaceX, yesterday landed two rocket boosters back on earth after a launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket.

SpaceX launches the Falcon Heavy rocket
Aboard that rocket was Musk’s Tesla Roadster, the first car Tesla ever made.

Musk uses that as inspiration for overcoming the issues in making Tesla’s mass production car, the Model 3.

“If we can send a roadster to the asteroid belt we can probably solve Model 3 production. It’s just a matter of time,” Musk said.

IT’S OF THE ESSENCE

Time, though, is the one thing Mr Musk has shown he can’t control. Deadlines appear to be his kryptonite.

Unfortunately he can’t stop setting them for himself. On Thursday, he promised or indicated Tesla would do each of the following.


• Fix self-driving capacity so that customers can drive autonomously “coast-to-coast” across America within three to six months.

• Make 5000 model 3 cars a week within five months.

• Announce a new SUV – the model Y – in six months time.

• Become profitable this year, according to generally accepted accounting principles (Elon admitted this one was optimistic and he was not certain about it.).

• Make a million cars a year by 2020

• Make 100,000 electric semi-trailer trucks a year within four years.

• To turn Tesla around while also achieving all of these in the timelines Musk expects, Tesla employees will need to put in one of the greatest bursts of productivity in business history. Let’s hope Mr Musk’s faith in humanity is justified.


maybe they need a new CEO..
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Testing rockets with a deadload. How unusual. Good PR.
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Maybe they need to move to China. Many hands make light work.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Maybe they need to move to China. Many hands make light work.


Then Trump would slap them with an import tariff.
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issuevoter wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 5:28pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Maybe they need to move to China. Many hands make light work.


Then Trump would slap them with an import tariff.


Fat chance. Trump and Ivanka import all their merchandise from China.
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lee wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
Testing rockets with a deadload. How unusual. Good PR.

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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Feb 8th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Quote:
Tesla staggering $1 billion loss

in just three months
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ELECTRIC car company Tesla has posted a staggering quarterly loss that amounts to nearly A$1 billion.


The US$780 million quarterly loss (A$997 million) is in the wake of the huge production problems that have slowed the flow of its blockbuster car to a trickle.

The quarterly loss gives Tesla an annual loss of US$2.2 billion and mounting debt.
  Shocked

Confessing the debt to the markets on Thursday morning Australian time, Tesla admitted it has been
“overconfident” and “complacent”.



Tesla has been losing an incredible amount of money recently.

Production issues have caused Tesla to fall well behind schedule on its Model 3 car, which is intended to be a mass-market offering.

The company aimed to make 5000 cars a week by the end of 2017 but could only manage to deliver a few thousand in total during the year.

It is now working to rectify its mistakes by importing new production equipment from Germany to replace the problematic equipment at its battery factory.

The problems can be traced back to a rapid set of timelines that saw Tesla rush to achieve high levels of production.

Musk admitted on Thursday he had been too ambitious in the past.

“We were probably a little overconfident, we were complacent,” he said, admitting that fixing all the mistakes had caused “a lot of pain”.

“Pain level is extremely high. I was in the gigafactory on Thanksgiving day,” he said.

Tesla’s delays put the company in an uncomfortable situation. The company borrowed a lot of money to build itself up, and it needs to sell lots of cars to pay the money back. Each delay costs more money while deferring the money-making phase. That can’t go on forever.

Tesla has US$9.5 billion worth of long-term debt and capital leases on its books, and an interest bill on its debt of nearly half a billon dollars a year. Even if it doesn’t borrow more, that bill could be set to rise as US interest rates go up.

On Thursday, however,
Tesla CEO Musk
was seeing the bright side. He willingly admitted his enormous automated battery factory — the “alien dreadnought” gigafactory — was failing to operate properly.

Two of four zones “flat out didn’t work”, he said. But he was finding solace in an unexpected place – by seeing that humans could actually operate better than robots.

“We have a semi-automatic line which is a series of small automated stations manned by people. And they have actually been remarkably effective,” he said. “It has renewed my faith in humanity.”

The man who wanted to banish most humans from the production facility altogether is instead finding them very useful and highly capable.

“The rapid evolution of progress and the ability of people to adapt rapidly is quite remarkable. Our semi-automatic line is exceeding all three of the automatic lines.”

Still, Mr Musk didn’t want to give the impression that the batteries were being made like custom furniture or wood-fired pizzas.

“It is not artisanal!” he joked.

Musk, who has been regularly blowing away competitors in the space industry with his company SpaceX, yesterday landed two rocket boosters back on earth after a launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket.

SpaceX launches the Falcon Heavy rocket
Aboard that rocket was Musk’s Tesla Roadster, the first car Tesla ever made.

Musk uses that as inspiration for overcoming the issues in making Tesla’s mass production car, the Model 3.

“If we can send a roadster to the asteroid belt we can probably solve Model 3 production. It’s just a matter of time,” Musk said.

IT’S OF THE ESSENCE

Time, though, is the one thing Mr Musk has shown he can’t control. Deadlines appear to be his kryptonite.

Unfortunately he can’t stop setting them for himself. On Thursday, he promised or indicated Tesla would do each of the following.


• Fix self-driving capacity so that customers can drive autonomously “coast-to-coast” across America within three to six months.

• Make 5000 model 3 cars a week within five months.

• Announce a new SUV – the model Y – in six months time.

• Become profitable this year, according to generally accepted accounting principles (Elon admitted this one was optimistic and he was not certain about it.).

• Make a million cars a year by 2020

• Make 100,000 electric semi-trailer trucks a year within four years.

• To turn Tesla around while also achieving all of these in the timelines Musk expects, Tesla employees will need to put in one of the greatest bursts of productivity in business history. Let’s hope Mr Musk’s faith in humanity is justified.


maybe they need a new CEO..



this one ain't working out so well
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Sprint said what?
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TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:19pm:
Sprint said what?


My understanding is Tesla is losing a lot of money
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buying put options on tesla could be good.
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Reply #12 - Feb 13th, 2018 at 9:54am
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:11pm:
lee wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
Testing rockets with a deadload. How unusual. Good PR.

I thought you liked capitalism!


Wow. I thought you understood the printed word.

Or perhaps you don't understand how they test rockets.
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Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 12:08am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:19pm:
Sprint said what?


My understanding is Tesla is losing a lot of money

So, your conclusion is?
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TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 1:55pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 13th, 2018 at 12:08am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 11:19pm:
Sprint said what?


My understanding is Tesla is losing a lot of money

So, your conclusion is?


Buy Put options
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