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Reply #75 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

He's got a cross on his face because he thinks that having a cross tattooed on his face means something and gives him a sense of identity and personal power. It's religious affiliation is irrelevant.

The charging with terrorism offences has been explained to you - if you - as a claimed civil libertarian, do not yet understand the need for a constant guard on personal and legal liberties and rights when governments and their agencies are afoot - you are beyond teaching.

Who guards the guard while the guard guards you while the price of liberty is eternal vigilance?

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #76 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

Your point being in regard to all the above???????

The sky is blue, so are my daughter's eyes - that doesn't make her sky....

At least Aussie understands the nature of our courts.... I thought you were a lawyer.... if so you'd be a great politician.

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #77 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:42pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

Your point being in regard to all the above???????

Those are the facts.

That's my point.

Oh, and someone has been charged with terrorism offences, yet our Prime Minister has said nothing.

Why do you suppose that might be?

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #78 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:45pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

He's got a cross on his face because he thinks that having a cross tattooed on his face means something and gives him a sense of identity and personal power. It's religious affiliation is irrelevant.

How can you say that?

Do you know the man personally?

Did he tell you that?

Let's stick to the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face (none of us know why)

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity (indisputable fact)

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #79 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:58pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

what would you rather him say..

run and hide we are all going to be killed????

Surely he must have said something on national TV to reassure us all?

As far as I can tell, our PM has said nothing about this person being charged with terrorism offences.

And, it gets better (or worse).

"Assistant Commissioner Counter Terrorism and Special Tactics Command Mick Willing ... " said:

"Some of these offences hold up to 25 years or life. These are serious charges."

And:

"The Fixated Persons Investigation Unit — established in April last year — investigates people driven by extreme political, religious or ideological beliefs who make threats of violence, and also works to identify people who may be vulnerable to radicalisation or lone-wolf-style attacks.

"This is the first time the unit has laid terrorism charges."

Jesus!

Very serious terrorism charges, which can attract 25 years to life in prison, AND it's the first time this unit has laid terrorism charges.

Very serious, and historically significant charges, yet our PM hasn't said a word about it.

Why is that?

I'm curious.

If any of the usual apologists for white criminals can explain the Prime Minister's silence on this very serious matter, I'd like to hear from them.

Hammer?

Herbert?

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #80 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

He's got a cross on his face because he thinks that having a cross tattooed on his face means something and gives him a sense of identity and personal power. It's religious affiliation is irrelevant.

How can you say that?

Do you know the man personally?

Did he tell you that?

Let's stick to the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face (none of us know why)

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity (indisputable fact)

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

Christians don't tattoo crosses on their face and threaten to kill cops with a knife.... I have no doubt he does not subscribe to any religious belief....

Now about that issue of civil liberties and legal rights................ Huh

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #81 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:27pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

What's this 'you guys', greg? There's a difference between mumbling about attacking cops and planning a terrorist act.... even you know that.

How come YOU GUYS always go for the 'it's a mental health of an individual' line when it's a Muslim, who has mostly planned in concert with others or has actually taken up jihad against some innocent, as Curtis Cheng's family will testify, or actually runs a car through a crowd screeching Al, Ahoooo Black Bar!

I'm done with you.....

He might well be a nut case. We'll see. He certainly is an arsehole terrorist if he is convicted.

Sure, he could be a nut case.

Nobody has denied that.

Similarly, nobody has said he's not a Muslim, and nobody has said why he has a cross on his face.

All that's been stated are the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

We all agree on those facts, yeah?

He's got a cross on his face because he thinks that having a cross tattooed on his face means something and gives him a sense of identity and personal power. It's religious affiliation is irrelevant.

How can you say that?

Do you know the man personally?

Did he tell you that?

Let's stick to the facts:

- he's white

- he has an Anglo-Saxon name

- he has a cross on his face (none of us know why)

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity (indisputable fact)

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

Christians don't tattoo crosses on their face and threaten to kill cops with a knife.... I have no doubt he does not subscribe to any religious belief....

Now about that issue of civil liberties and legal rights................ Huh

Who said he was a Christian?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131638 Gender:	Re: Another terrorist arsehole Reply #82 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:30pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:18pm: Christians don't tattoo crosses on their face and threaten to kill cops with a knife.... I have no doubt he does not subscribe to any religious belief.... Christian woman, in Ethiopia.
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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #83 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 2:43pm:

Is that a Christian symbol under his right eye?

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/h/0/c/z/8/o/image.related.ar...

Interesting observation, Aussie.

It looks to me to be a cross, very much like this one:

https://www.iconexperience.com/_img/o_collection_png/green_dark_grey/512x512/pla...

When I researched that particular symbol, I found this:

"Cross, the principal symbol of the Christian religion, recalling the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the redeeming benefits of his Passion and death.

"The cross is thus a sign both of Christ himself and of the faith of Christians."

And this symbol is tattooed on the face of a white man, who goes by the name of Blake Nicholas Pender (Pender being of Anglo-Saxon origin), who has been charged with terrorism offences.

Have I got it right so far?

I doubt it
suggest you look up tattoos... gang related and prison...

I have looked up gang related and prison tattoos.

Still, nothing I've said is wrong.

A cross is the principal symbol of Christianity.

And, the white guy with the Anglo-Saxon name, who's been charged with terrorism acts, has a cross on his face.

You're the only one who doesn't understand this.

Yet you didn't post anything about the meanings other than Christianity did you and with Gang and Prison related tattoos crosses do not mean Christianity do they... I mean you know because you checked right so you are lying then...

So you are nothing but a lying TROLL gweggy...

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #84 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:58pm:

cods wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:52pm:

what would you rather him say..

run and hide we are all going to be killed????

Surely he must have said something on national TV to reassure us all?

As far as I can tell, our PM has said nothing about this person being charged with terrorism offences.

And, it gets better (or worse).

"Assistant Commissioner Counter Terrorism and Special Tactics Command Mick Willing ... " said:

"Some of these offences hold up to 25 years or life. These are serious charges."

And:

"The Fixated Persons Investigation Unit — established in April last year — investigates people driven by extreme political, religious or ideological beliefs who make threats of violence, and also works to identify people who may be vulnerable to radicalisation or lone-wolf-style attacks.

"This is the first time the unit has laid terrorism charges."

Jesus!

Very serious terrorism charges, which can attract 25 years to life in prison, AND it's the first time this unit has laid terrorism charges.

Very serious, and historically significant charges, yet our PM hasn't said a word about it.

Why is that?

I'm curious.

If any of the usual apologists for white criminals can explain the Prime Minister's silence on this very serious matter, I'd like to hear from them.

Hammer?

Herbert?

So, anyone wanna tackle this?

Why hasn't the PM said anything?

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #85 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:35pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:46pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 2:43pm:

Is that a Christian symbol under his right eye?

https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/h/0/c/z/8/o/image.related.ar...

Interesting observation, Aussie.

It looks to me to be a cross, very much like this one:

https://www.iconexperience.com/_img/o_collection_png/green_dark_grey/512x512/pla...

When I researched that particular symbol, I found this:

"Cross, the principal symbol of the Christian religion, recalling the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the redeeming benefits of his Passion and death.

"The cross is thus a sign both of Christ himself and of the faith of Christians."

And this symbol is tattooed on the face of a white man, who goes by the name of Blake Nicholas Pender (Pender being of Anglo-Saxon origin), who has been charged with terrorism offences.

Have I got it right so far?

I doubt it
suggest you look up tattoos... gang related and prison...

I have looked up gang related and prison tattoos.

Still, nothing I've said is wrong.

A cross is the principal symbol of Christianity.

And, the white guy with the Anglo-Saxon name, who's been charged with terrorism acts, has a cross on his face.

You're the only one who doesn't understand this.

Yet you didn't post anything about the meanings other than Christianity did you and with Gang and Prison related tattoos crosses to not mean Christianity do they... I mean you know because you checked right so you are lying then...

So you are nothing but a lying TROLL gweggy...

Nothing I've said is a lie.

He has a cross on his face - fact.

A cross is the principal symbol of Christianity - fact.

So, where's the lie?

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #86 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

- he has a cross on his face (none of us know why)

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity (indisputable fact)

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

yes there is a t on his face.
But to relate it and him to Christianity as you are doing is dishonest to say the least. That has been pointed out to you many times, but you keep doing it. just like bwian you are an obsessive lying TROLL.
We don't know if he has any religious affiliation.
We don't know if he has a cross fetish.
We don't know what the symbol means to him at all.
Even if you keep making inferences gweggy.
But we do know that crosses on prisoners and gang members and their position on the body have various meaning as you have been told.

yet you keep ignoring those facts and posting your original crap.

I suggest we all just wait as I originally said till we find out exactly what kind of nutjob he actually is. Roll Eyes

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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #87 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:47pm

Grendel wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 7:45pm:

- he has a cross on his face (none of us know why)

- a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity (indisputable fact)

- he's been charged with terrorism offences

yes there is a t on his face.
But to relate it and him to Christianity as you are doing is dishonest to say the least. That has been pointed out to you many times, but you keep doing it. just like bwian you are an obsessive lying TROLL.
We don't know if he has any religious affiliation.
We don't know if he has a cross fetish.
We don't know what the symbol means to him at all.
Even if you keep making inferences gweggy.
But we do know that crosses on prisoners and gang members and their position on the body have various meaning as you have been told.

yet you keep ignoring those facts and posting your original crap.

I suggest we all just wait as I originally said till we find out exactly what kind of nutjob he actually is. Roll Eyes

I'm not ignoring anything, or posting any crap.

Everything I've said is 100% accurate.

Yes, a cross can mean lots of things, to lots of different people.

It certainly doesn't always represent Christianity.

However, that doesn't change the facts:

1. he has a cross on his face - indisputable

2. a cross is the principal symbol of Christianity - indisputable

Capiche?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37688 Gender:	Re: Another terrorist arsehole Reply #88 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:48pm The letter of the alphabet looks like ~ t. Notice the little hook on it. A Capital t looks like ~ T, which has the horizontal bit at the top. That is not a 't/T' ~ it is a cross with the horizontal bit down from the top. Don't be such a pedant.
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Re: Another terrorist arsehole
Reply #89 - Jan 4^th, 2018 at 8:51pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:41pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 4^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Great link Aussie, if you are a Daily Telegraph subscriber that is

But I don't subscribe because the Daily Telegraph doesn't even make good bum paper let alone news

The huge majority of terrorists come from the Islam ranks and that's a fact Jack

Nevertheless there are white terrorists around too..so what? Does that lessen the threat from Islam?

Link.

Not sure why you ask those questions. It does not seem that this alleged terrorist is a Muslem.

How do you know that? As Grendel, Secret, Grappler, Red and Bias point out, we need to see the evidence.

Innocent until proven guilty, innit. This man is not a terrorist until we can prove his status as a Muslim, as every schoolboy knows.

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