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Article 7 for Poland

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As she fights for her political life Soon-to-be-ex-Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel will go down swinging against her stiffest political opponents in the European Union, the Poles.
Merkel and French President Emmanual Macron publicly agreed to back Article 7 proceedings against Poland for refusing to comply with EU immigration quotas and changes to its judicial system.

Immigration quotas, I might add, that are becoming harder to defend as the war in Syria is mostly over and the flow of refugees from there has slowed to a trickle.   But, those brought in and stranded in camps in Italy and Greece apparently need to go somewhere else.

But, no one wants them.  And the rest of the EU is trying to bully Poland and the rest of the Visigrad countries – Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia – into taking on their ‘fair share.’  The problem with this is that Merkel made this decision unilaterally and foisted it on the rest of the EU.

And she is determined not to lose this fight to Poland, not because this is any kind of humanitarian issue at this point.

No, this is about the primacy of EU diktats being enforced at the expense of logic and political cohesion.  And, as I’ve been warning about all year, Merkel will put the EU before any practical consideration and bring Article 7 proceedings against Poland.

Because she has to.

Immigration and the destruction of individual European cultures is the guiding principle behind the EU’s biggest benefactors.  This policy is part of the long-term strategic goals of the EU.  It has created an army which will be used to quell secessionist movements in the name of ‘continental security.’

Because despite the fevered dreams of a few hundred Latvians, the Russians are not invading Europe anytime soon.

And I have to wonder who will staff this Grand Army of the Oligarchy?  After impoverishing an entire generation of people thanks to a decade-long banking system bailout, you shouldn’t be expecting the crème de la crème of the vanishing European middle class.

You can expect a number of these newly-integrated immigrants that Merkel invited at everyone else’s expense will be in their ranks.  And only the most politically-acceptable members of the current armies of each country will be invited to positions of authority in this new EU army.  Their loyalty will be to the EU first and their homes second.

The very definition of a Vichy gendarme for the 21st century.

Poland and the rest of the Visigrad Four – Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia – are headed for a collision course with the rest of Western Europe over this issue and many others.

And invoking Article 7 will eventually allow the European Parliament to rescind all economic aid to Poland and its voting rights within the body.  While at that same time not allowing Poland free access to international trade because it will not be an independent nation at that point.

Any move to extricate itself from the EU politically or practically will be met with the most strident opposition.  Look no further than Brexit talks and the brutal put-down of Catalonia’s independence movement to see Poland’s future.

The first step is a political reprimand.  But, the problem for Merkel and the EU in general is that Poland’s ruling Law and Justice party is more popular than ever thanks to its opposition to her nonsense.

The same thing is happening across all of Eastern Europe.  The Czechs just elected their version of Donald Trump, Andrej Babis.  The Austrians put together a coalition government this week comprised of the two most anti-immigration parties in the country.

And their new Foreign Minister wasn’t on the job more than a couple of days before publicly declaring Austria would be ending its economic sanctions against Russia which have been in place since 2014 over Russia’s reunification with Crimea.

I wonder how well that’s going to go over the next time the council of EU Foreign Ministers gets together.  EU sanctions require unanimity or the measure is rescinded.  Opposition to these sanctions has been growing but there has been a lack of leadership in standing up to Germany on this.

That will likely change in 2018 with Germany’s leadership in flux.

Merkel will simply continue doing what she’s told to do as the European Project proceeds steadfastly towards its original goal.  It doesn’t matter that the EU will be in tatters once it gets there.  Stay the course is all she and the rest of the EU elites have left.
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Reply #1 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am
 
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.



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Reply #2 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?
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Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:45am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


Like you care what happens, as long as more Muzlims get into Europe.
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 12:09pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:45am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


Like you care what happens, as long as more Muzlims get into Europe.


You sound cranky about something, Issue. I most certainly do care about Europe. I'm aware that this is the longest time in its history without war. I also know that the one thing that's prevented this is the common market and currency.

Europe now has shared interests, and in all the countries I've been to, people are proud to be a part of a European community. Imagine, after a millenia where people defined their sovereignty in terms of kingdoms at war, they now define themselves as a people at peace, where they can travel and trade freely.

Who wouldn't want this? Who would trade peace and economic stability for petty squabbles, death, destruction and blitzkrieg?

As a European citizen myself, I'm happy. Europe is the world's biggest market and enjoys the best living conditions in the world. Who wouldn't be happy?

Apart from you, Herbie and Bogie, I mean.
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All live happily surrounded by Muslim rape gangs, fearful of Muslim terrorist mass atrocities, enjoy groupthink engineered by the likes of Merkel and Soros.
Sounds great. Wonder why more & more countries want out or radical change from the Brussels cabal-run system.

But Karnal doesn't mind a few women gang- raped or a few priests stabbed or.people mown down in the streets.
All for the greater Diversified Islamic Caliphate eh?
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Reply #6 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:13pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 12:42pm:
All live happily surrounded by Muslim rape gangs, fearful of Muslim terrorist mass atrocities, enjoy groupthink engineered by the likes of Merkel and Soros.


I asked you recently what George Soros has to do with Europe, Bogie. You declined to answer.

So let's discuss it now. Please explain which program Soros funds that brings Muslims into Europe.

Cheers.
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Reply #7 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm
 
That would have made a change. You usually just tell me you're curious.

Now I can understand you're losing your rag Karnal, but remember you need it to get back into the Caliphate.
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bogarde73 wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm:
That would have made a change. You usually just tell me you're curious.

Now I can understand you're losing your rag Karnal, but remember you need it to get back into the Caliphate.


Ignore his trolling, Bogarde.
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bogarde73 wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm:
That would have made a change. You usually just tell me you're curious.

Now I can understand you're losing your rag Karnal, but remember you need it to get back into the Caliphate.


Don't want to say, eh?

Now you and I both know that's because George Soros doesn't fund anything that even remotely has to do with bringing Muslims into Europe. His donations are all out in the open, they're tax deductible, and anyone can look them up - just like anyone can look up the number of Germans living in Hungary.

You can continue to make stuff up, Bogie, and I can continue to check the facts. Herbie mightn't like it, but here in Australia, we call this freedom of speech. As Orwell wrote, freedom is the ability to say that two plus two equals four.

For you, freedom is the ability to tell fibs. As we Australians know, this isn't freedom, it's tyranny. You want a world where people are continually at each others throats, fighting over lies. You want a state of constant war, as your thoughts on Europe attest.

Sorry, Bogie, you're outnumbered - not only by those who want peace, but by the facts themselves.

It is a jolly world, no?

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Reply #10 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:07pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:32pm:
That would have made a change. You usually just tell me you're curious.

Now I can understand you're losing your rag Karnal, but remember you need it to get back into the Caliphate.


Ignore his trolling, Bogarde.


Sorry to offend, Herbie.

So unfair.
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Reply #11 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


When freely available energy via petroleum vanishes to a trickle, that will become the new reality....
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Reply #12 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 8:50pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


When freely available energy via petroleum vanishes to a trickle, that will become the new reality....


That reads as a metaphor for a distant time. I don't see petroleum running out this century. The reserves are massive, and exploration keeps finding more. Nor do I see the EU crashing in the foreseeable future. It will have problems but welfare will keep deluded humanists like Merkle in power. Remember, anyone who wants to defend their way of life, and their borders, is a Nazi.
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Reply #13 - Dec 21st, 2017 at 8:33am
 
issuevoter wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 8:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


When freely available energy via petroleum vanishes to a trickle, that will become the new reality....


That reads as a metaphor for a distant time. I don't see petroleum running out this century. The reserves are massive, and exploration keeps finding more. Nor do I see the EU crashing in the foreseeable future. It will have problems but welfare will keep deluded humanists like Merkle in power. Remember, anyone who wants to defend their way of life, and their borders, is a Nazi.


German manufacturing is keeping the Christian Democrat Merkel going, Issue. It's the economy. The US could look no further than Germany and the EU to see how things work in a healthy, low-emissions manufacturing economy with high terms of trade.

Germany exports more than it imports. It does so as a member of the world's biggest trading block.

I'm hardly a Merkel fan, but these are just the facts. All the things you deride Germany and Europe for are the things that have made them great again.
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Reply #14 - Dec 21st, 2017 at 8:58am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 21st, 2017 at 8:33am:
issuevoter wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 8:50pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 6:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:04am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
The EU is destined to crash-and-burn like the worst train-wreck in history, and then out of this conflagration will rise phoenix-like a return to national sovereignties and border controls, and the Left of the polity will have seen the last of its halcyon years.





Sounds like a plan, Herbie.

Blood and fire. It'll be WWII all over again, no?


When freely available energy via petroleum vanishes to a trickle, that will become the new reality....


That reads as a metaphor for a distant time. I don't see petroleum running out this century. The reserves are massive, and exploration keeps finding more. Nor do I see the EU crashing in the foreseeable future. It will have problems but welfare will keep deluded humanists like Merkle in power. Remember, anyone who wants to defend their way of life, and their borders, is a Nazi.


German manufacturing is keeping the Christian Democrat Merkel going, Issue. It's the economy. The US could look no further than Germany and the EU to see how things work in a healthy, low-emissions manufacturing economy with high terms of trade.

Germany exports more than it imports. It does so as a member of the world's biggest trading block.

I'm hardly a Merkel fan, but these are just the facts. All the things you deride Germany and Europe for are the things that have made them great again.



once you have enough money to "stave off the debt collectors", then additional cash doesnt seem to add to national "happiness".

people need function and for men function must come in the form of climbing the "competance' heirachy.
there has to be some challenge to overcome
there has to be some mountain to climb.

maybe the assimilation of the migrants is the next challenge that fat Fritz and fat Eva are going to undertake.

it will certainly get them off the couch and stop them sitting around "pleasuring themselves".

Solzenitzen wrote a great book along those lines with the story of how if you put humans in a glass spa full of joy and sensual pleasure and there were bubbles of pure bliss coming up thru the water, the first thing they would do is smash the glass to make something interesting happen.

We spiritually know that "the socialist utopia " is boring and bad for us. Maybe Merkel subconsciously knew this as well and had to smash her utopia.

it goes to prove, there is no utopia. there is no end to the journey, that once you rest on your laurels you are screwed and you have to keep rising to face the challenge.

but not in the way  the left envisage it. Wink
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