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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57189 Here Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #45 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:29am Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:40am: I voted One Nation I feel embarrassed for you.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #46 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:55am Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:40am: I voted One Nation are you a cane toad sprint?
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #47 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 7:20am Dnarever wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:29am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 12:40am: I voted One Nation I feel embarrassed for you. You should feel embarrassed for yourself...
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Re: How many seats have one nation won ?
Reply #48 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 7:27am

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:19pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2017 at 11:03pm:

There wasn't much talk about ON winning seats, it was primarily about preferences and "king making"

I noticed Labor preferenced LNP in one seat, don't know if Labor did that in any other seats. Just goes to show what bum chums they are sometimes, fight like cats and dogs, then shag each other

labor has always said it will preference One nation last in every seat ON ran a candidate

Yes putting ON last means the ALP did preference LNP in every seat ON ran in... But I think they only ran in about 63 seats.

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Lord Herbert Gold Member Offline Posts: 34441 Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #49 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat? They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip. There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured. link
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Reply #50 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:02am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

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Nobody remembers third Grin

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Reply #51 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:06am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

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preferences control the verdict....its total rubbish...its time we grew up and had first past the post.....Katter get two seats.... Roll Eyes

and if it goes as predicted he will have a share of the POWER.. what a joke.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #52 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:08am If dumb nation go in to a coalition with Libtards with the seats they won they can form government , oh wait, they haven't won any yet
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #53 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:11am Weren't they supposed to win 8:seats or something
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Re: How many seats have one nation won ?
Reply #54 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:11am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

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It's because single member electorates make it an all or nothing thing. To get a single seat you need to get a majority somewhere.

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:06am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

link

preferences control the verdict....its total rubbish...its time we grew up and had first past the post.....Katter get two seats.... Roll Eyes

and if it goes as predicted he will have a share of the POWER.. what a joke.

Preferences are not the cause. They go a long way to solving the problem. The problem is much worse in places that do not have preferential voting. Imagine if supporters of Greens, ON, Democrats, etc were made to feel like they were throwing their vote away if they voted for their preferred party. A Greens supporter might help the LNP to get elected ahead of Labor by voting Green. Their effect on the legislative outcome would be the opposite of their intention. A Greens candidate might cause an LNP win if they run, or a Labor win if they withdraw. This is literally what happens in places without preferential voting. It cripples minor parties and usually leave only two viable options. Better than only one viable option, but a long way from genuine democracy and an invitation for corruption.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #55 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:14am Pick your bottom lips up rtards , they're predicted to win one maybe two , at present count it's still zero
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Re: How many seats have one nation won ?
Reply #56 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:50am

Its time wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:02am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

link

Nobody remembers third Grin

The same thing happened with Britain's UKIP party. They received literally millions of votes but only won one seat.

The system is definitely rigged to benefit the two major parties.

Despite One Nation getting 14% of the votes they'll have no representation in the QLD parliament ~ a situation that is farcical and patently undemocratic.

Our political system is called a Representative Democracy, but it's obvious one or more wheels have fallen off what was originally intended to be this 'representative democracy' which doesn't give a single seat to a party that wins 14% of the vote.

A Royal Commission of Inquiry should be given the task of unravelling this ridiculous anomaly.

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Re: How many seats have one nation won ?
Reply #57 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 9:06am

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:11am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

link

It's because single member electorates make it an all or nothing thing. To get a single seat you need to get a majority somewhere.

cods wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:06am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 8:00am:

How can One Nation come third after the major two and yet still not win a seat?

They've received almost double that of the Greens, and Katter's Australia party has hardly registered a blip.

There's something wrong with the way the system has been structured.

link

preferences control the verdict....its total rubbish...its time we grew up and had first past the post.....Katter get two seats.... Roll Eyes

and if it goes as predicted he will have a share of the POWER.. what a joke.

Preferences are not the cause. They go a long way to solving the problem. The problem is much worse in places that do not have preferential voting. Imagine if supporters of Greens, ON, Democrats, etc were made to feel like they were throwing their vote away if they voted for their preferred party. A Greens supporter might help the LNP to get elected ahead of Labor by voting Green. Their effect on the legislative outcome would be the opposite of their intention. A Greens candidate might cause an LNP win if they run, or a Labor win if they withdraw. This is literally what happens in places without preferential voting. It cripples minor parties and usually leave only two viable options. Better than only one viable option, but a long way from genuine democracy and an invitation for corruption.

do not agree..... if it comes down to those with the most votes.....people might take more care with their vote..

as it is no one knows sometimes for weeks what good their voting did????....with out system any tom dick or harry can jump on the bus.....get 1000 votes... never get a seat yet impacts on who get the golden chalice ... no chance harry should never be allowed to run in the first place....... we have more fickle stoopid crap things to sift through, than any other country...

if we had 50 million voters I could understand it...

but we dont in the mean time...every bloody govt State and Fed is forced to make DEALS>.with minorities...who have an axe to grind... Roll Eyes

otherwise they would be with one of the majors. Angry

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Reply #58 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 9:13am

That One Nation hasn't been credited with receiving even a single seat despite harnessing 14% of the vote I feel sure will be declared a 'clerical error' by the Electoral Commission, followed by an apology.

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It's a clerical error.

A bean-counter fell asleep in front of his keyboard.

The record will be set straight any moment now.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: How many seats have one nation won ? Reply #59 - Nov 26^th, 2017 at 9:33am I bet its leftwhinger... he has clout up there.... hes the chief counter.FIXED!
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