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Reply #390 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:31pm

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

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WRONG ... they are banned from CLIMBING Uluru

How is this any less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it?

still persisting with that dumb analogy. Uluru is nothing like going to a pool. A pool serves one purpose. Uluru doesn't. The majority of people do NOT go to ULURU to climb it.

If your analogy was pissing in the pool you'd be more correct.

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Reply #391 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:33pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

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WRONG ... they are banned from CLIMBING Uluru

How is this any less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it?

still persisting with that dumb analogy. Uluru is nothing like going to a pool. A pool serves one purpose. Uluru doesn't. The majority of people do NOT go to ULURU to climb it.

If your analogy was pissing in the pool you'd be more correct.

Yeah - but those who go there to climb it go there to climb it - I mean some only go to the pool to watch the young sheilas or some the young blokes.... or just to supervise their offspring or whatever...

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Reply #392 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:37pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

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WRONG ... they are banned from CLIMBING Uluru

How is this any less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it?

still persisting with that dumb analogy. Uluru is nothing like going to a pool. A pool serves one purpose. Uluru doesn't. The majority of people do NOT go to ULURU to climb it.

If your analogy was pissing in the pool you'd be more correct.

Yeah - but those who go there to climb it go there to climb it - I mean some only go to the pool to watch the young sheilas or some the young blokes.... or just to supervise their offspring or whatever...

allow climbing at the Opera house and people will go there to climb it to. Does that make the opera house operators racist?

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Reply #393 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:38pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:04pm:

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WRONG ... they are banned from CLIMBING Uluru

How is this any less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it?

still persisting with that dumb analogy. Uluru is nothing like going to a pool. A pool serves one purpose. Uluru doesn't. The majority of people do NOT go to ULURU to climb it.

If your analogy was pissing in the pool you'd be more correct.

I am not saying the rock has only one purpose. I am saying people will be banned from Uluru on racist and sexist grounds. And you claiming this to be incorrect, on the basis that they can take photos, is no less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it. If I said they were banned from the gift shop or the national park, you would have a point, but you don't. I am saying they will be banned from Uluru, which is entirely accurate. Your excuses that they can still buy trinkets or go on alternative aboriginal-approved walks near the base does not change the fact that they are still banned from the rock.

It really is that simple John. Not sure why you still struggle with the concept.

And your analogy with climbing buildings is equally idiotic. Uluru is a a natural formation and wanting to climb it is entirely natural. It is so natural that the aborigines themselves want to do it.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #394 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:40pm freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:38pm: And you claiming this to be incorrect yes . freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:38pm: is no less idiotic than saying people are not banned from a pool, they just can't swim in it it's not even remotely similar
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #395 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:40pm freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:38pm: I am saying they will be banned from Uluru, which is entirely accurate. no, it's a big fat lie
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53090 At my desk.	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #396 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm It is a similar level of idiocy John. People are still banned from the rock, despite being permitted in the gift shop. The gift shop and Uluru are not the same, understand?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #397 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm: It is a similar level of idiocy John. not even remotely similar
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #398 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:42pm People can't be banned because it's illegal unless the government modifies the 99 year lease that the aborigines agreed to.
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Reply #399 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:46pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

It is a similar level of idiocy John.

not even remotely similar

John, unfortunately it is not possible to measure the idiocy of your claim against someone saying you aren't banned from a pool, you just can't swim in it. So it is no surprise you retreat there. But it is clear that you are wrong. The gift shop is not Uluru. Being permitted in the gift shop is not the same as being permitted on Uluru. People are banned from Uluru. It is that simple and your excuses are idiotic, and wrong.

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Reply #400 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:53pm

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:41pm:

It is a similar level of idiocy John.

not even remotely similar

John, unfortunately it is not possible to measure the idiocy of your claim against someone saying you aren't banned from a pool, you just can't swim in it. So it is no surprise you retreat there. But it is clear that you are wrong. The gift shop is not Uluru. Being permitted in the gift shop is not the same as being permitted on Uluru. People are banned from Uluru. It is that simple and your excuses are idiotic, and wrong.

Oh, FD, give it up. No one's banned from Ularu because no one's banned from Ularu.

Your tapdancing Isn't cunning, It's just plain dumb.

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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #401 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:53pm

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

John, unfortunately it is not possible to measure the idiocy of your claim against someone saying you aren't banned from a pool,

True, since you cannot measure something that isn't there.

however it is possible to measure the idiocy of your claim

Uluru had over 270 000 visitors last year, of those 220 000 did not climb the rock.

Are you claiming they were banned from Uluru? Cause I'm going to bet that each and every one of them will call you a nutter if you do so.

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Big Donger Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102456	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #402 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:54pm Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:42pm: People can't be banned because it's illegal unless the government modifies the 99 year lease that the aborigines agreed to. So prove it.
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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness Reply #403 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 1:11pm Big Donger wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:54pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:42pm: People can't be banned because it's illegal unless the government modifies the 99 year lease that the aborigines agreed to. So prove it. If you care so much you prove me wrong.
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Re: Racism, sacred cows and political correctness
Reply #404 - Nov 12^th, 2017 at 1:29pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:53pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 12^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

John, unfortunately it is not possible to measure the idiocy of your claim against someone saying you aren't banned from a pool,

True, since you cannot measure something that isn't there.

however it is possible to measure the idiocy of your claim

Uluru had over 270 000 visitors last year, of those 220 000 did not climb the rock.

Are you claiming they were banned from Uluru? Cause I'm going to bet that each and every one of them will call you a nutter if you do so.

The ban starts in 2019 John. Do try to keep up.

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