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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #90 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 11:52am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Egypt mosque death toll rises to 305

So sorry to interrupt you with yet another "pathetic attempt to drum up sympathy for Islam"...

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The gunmen who carried out the attack were carrying Islamic State (IS) flags and were between 25 and 30 in number, the public prosecutor's office said in a statement.

The militants were shouting Allahu Akbar, or God is great

Why would anyone want to be sympathetic to a belief that allows and condones this terror?

Has our Grand Mufti who is Egyptian said anything to condemn this latest attack?

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #91 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 12:20pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

We all know Muslims kill Muslims and we all know most Muslims killing Muslims are in the Middle East.

So your point would be what Gandalf?

It's ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

The West is ignorant of the fact that Muslims kill Muslims?

It's not ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

Only killing some Muslims is ok?

There are good Muslims and bad Muslims?

There are only good Muslims and Muslims that kill are not really Muslims?

Islam is at war with itself?

Islam is at war with the West?

Islam and Muslims are at war with non-Muslims?

Just what are you on about?

I think his point is that no matter what is going on, you can always create a narrative that paints Muslims as victims.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #93 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Can we blame Islam instead of the victims Gandalf?

I wish you would FD, but no doubt you will continue to blame both. Even as devout and peaceful muslims are slaughtered in their hundreds for their peaceful and tolerant views on Islam - I have no doubt you will continue to undermine them, mock and deride them for "lying" about their beliefs and attempting to pull the wool over your eyes, and generally just doing nothing but performing taqqiya for sinister purposes. Because you know, we're all just a mindless collective secretly in love with ISIS right?

Or perhaps you will prove me wrong FD - perhaps you will start defending the muslims who stand for a peaceful and tolerant Islam - and frequently pay for it with their lives. Perhaps you will stop mocking them as liars and purveyors of taqqiya, and acknowledging them as sincere and on our side. Perhaps you might even stop pretending terrorism is something other than overwhelmingly attacks against other muslims (ie nothing but muslims trying to take away white people's freeeeeedom). But I'm not holding my breath.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #94 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:35pm

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

We all know Muslims kill Muslims and we all know most Muslims killing Muslims are in the Middle East.

So your point would be what Gandalf?

It's ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

The West is ignorant of the fact that Muslims kill Muslims?

It's not ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

Only killing some Muslims is ok?

There are good Muslims and bad Muslims?

There are only good Muslims and Muslims that kill are not really Muslims?

Islam is at war with itself?

Islam is at war with the West?

Islam and Muslims are at war with non-Muslims?

Just what are you on about?

I think his point is that no matter what is going on, you can always create a narrative that paints Muslims as victims.

Its true FD, I confess. When defenseless muslims get slaughtered in their house of worship, I actually have the spunk to "paint muslims as victims". Outrageous isn't it.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #95 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:35pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

We all know Muslims kill Muslims and we all know most Muslims killing Muslims are in the Middle East.

So your point would be what Gandalf?

It's ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

The West is ignorant of the fact that Muslims kill Muslims?

It's not ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

Only killing some Muslims is ok?

There are good Muslims and bad Muslims?

There are only good Muslims and Muslims that kill are not really Muslims?

Islam is at war with itself?

Islam is at war with the West?

Islam and Muslims are at war with non-Muslims?

Just what are you on about?

I think his point is that no matter what is going on, you can always create a narrative that paints Muslims as victims.

Its true FD, I confess. When defenseless muslims get slaughtered in their house of worship, I actually have the spunk to "paint muslims as victims". Outrageous isn't it.

The analogy I'd like to offer is when someone complains about being stuck in traffic, you ARE traffic.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #96 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Can we blame Islam instead of the victims Gandalf?

I wish you would FD, but no doubt you will continue to blame both. Even as devout and peaceful muslims are slaughtered in their hundreds for their peaceful and tolerant views on Islam - I have no doubt you will continue to undermine them, mock and deride them for "lying" about their beliefs and attempting to pull the wool over your eyes, and generally just doing nothing but performing taqqiya for sinister purposes. Because you know, we're all just a mindless collective secretly in love with ISIS right?

Or perhaps you will prove me wrong FD - perhaps you will start defending the muslims who stand for a peaceful and tolerant Islam - and frequently pay for it with their lives. Perhaps you will stop mocking them as liars and purveyors of taqqiya, and acknowledging them as sincere and on our side. Perhaps you might even stop pretending terrorism is something other than overwhelmingly attacks against other muslims (ie nothing but muslims trying to take away white people's freeeeeedom). But I'm not holding my breath.

The snag - all those attacks on peaceful and tolerant Muslims are IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. What is more, on impeccably orthodox interpretations of Islam, in pious obedience to Mohammed's teachings and example. They act as the perfect pupils of Mohammed.

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #97 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:28pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Can we blame Islam instead of the victims Gandalf?

I wish you would FD, but no doubt you will continue to blame both. Even as devout and peaceful muslims are slaughtered in their hundreds for their peaceful and tolerant views on Islam - I have no doubt you will continue to undermine them, mock and deride them for "lying" about their beliefs and attempting to pull the wool over your eyes, and generally just doing nothing but performing taqqiya for sinister purposes. Because you know, we're all just a mindless collective secretly in love with ISIS right?

Or perhaps you will prove me wrong FD - perhaps you will start defending the muslims who stand for a peaceful and tolerant Islam - and frequently pay for it with their lives. Perhaps you will stop mocking them as liars and purveyors of taqqiya, and acknowledging them as sincere and on our side. Perhaps you might even stop pretending terrorism is something other than overwhelmingly attacks against other muslims (ie nothing but muslims trying to take away white people's freeeeeedom). But I'm not holding my breath.

I am happy to concede that Muslims are just as active in taking away the rights of fellow Muslims. After all, Islam means submission.

Muslims would be incapable of stopping ISIS without the help of non-Muslims - and as it is that help is hindered by the tendency of Muslims to kill Americans on sight.

So, now you have everything you want. We both blame Islam for destroying the rights and freedoms of Muslims and non-Muslims alike. Plus a fair bit of death and destruction thrown into the mix.

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When defenseless muslims get slaughtered in their house of worship, I actually have the spunk to "paint muslims as victims".

Who does this slaughtering Gandalf? Have they identified the group responsible yet? If not, would you hazard a guess?

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #98 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:38pm

extracts tell us

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Melbourne New Year’s Eve terror plot suspect Ali Ali faces court
The Australian
4:24PM November 28, 2017

A Melbourne man accused of planning to kill New Year’s Eve revellers at Federation Square has faced court.

Named as Ali Ali, the 20-year old made a brief appearance in the Melbourne Magistrates Court this afternoon after he was charged with doing acts in preparation to commit a terrorist attack and collecting documents to facilitate a terrorist act.

The Muslim man from Werribee in Melbourne’s western suburbs was arrested at 3pm yesterday after a secret operation by the police Special Operations Group.

How many times must we tell these cretins that the qur'an doesn't mean what it says?

When the demonic qur'an says to go and kill people, it really means pickled cucumber sandwiches under the talking palm tree, next to the talking rock, just down the road from the dunny that has evil jinns in it.

Why won't our leftards go and spread the word?

When will the gandis tell the truth and thoroughly review the depravity in the qur'an which causes islamic terrorism?

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #99 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 8:27am

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Can we blame Islam instead of the victims Gandalf?

I wish you would FD, but no doubt you will continue to blame both. Even as devout and peaceful muslims are slaughtered in their hundreds for their peaceful and tolerant views on Islam - I have no doubt you will continue to undermine them, mock and deride them for "lying" about their beliefs and attempting to pull the wool over your eyes, and generally just doing nothing but performing taqqiya for sinister purposes. Because you know, we're all just a mindless collective secretly in love with ISIS right?

Or perhaps you will prove me wrong FD - perhaps you will start defending the muslims who stand for a peaceful and tolerant Islam - and frequently pay for it with their lives. Perhaps you will stop mocking them as liars and purveyors of taqqiya, and acknowledging them as sincere and on our side. Perhaps you might even stop pretending terrorism is something other than overwhelmingly attacks against other muslims (ie nothing but muslims trying to take away white people's freeeeeedom). But I'm not holding my breath.

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Reply #100 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 5:02pm

Still waiting for answers...

Grendel wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 9:21am:

We all know Muslims kill Muslims and we all know most Muslims killing Muslims are in the Middle East.

So your point would be what Gandalf?

It's ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

The West is ignorant of the fact that Muslims kill Muslims?

It's not ok for Muslims to kill Muslims?

Only killing some Muslims is ok?

There are good Muslims and bad Muslims?

There are only good Muslims and Muslims that kill are not really Muslims?

Islam is at war with itself?

Islam is at war with the West?

Islam and Muslims are at war with non-Muslims?

Just what are you on about?

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #101 - Nov 30^th, 2017 at 8:53am

freediver wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2017 at 6:38pm:

Can we blame Islam instead of the victims Gandalf?

I wish you would FD, but no doubt you will continue to blame both. Even as devout and peaceful muslims are slaughtered in their hundreds for their peaceful and tolerant views on Islam - I have no doubt you will continue to undermine them, mock and deride them for "lying" about their beliefs and attempting to pull the wool over your eyes, and generally just doing nothing but performing taqqiya for sinister purposes. Because you know, we're all just a mindless collective secretly in love with ISIS right?

Or perhaps you will prove me wrong FD - perhaps you will start defending the muslims who stand for a peaceful and tolerant Islam - and frequently pay for it with their lives. Perhaps you will stop mocking them as liars and purveyors of taqqiya, and acknowledging them as sincere and on our side. Perhaps you might even stop pretending terrorism is something other than overwhelmingly attacks against other muslims (ie nothing but muslims trying to take away white people's freeeeeedom). But I'm not holding my breath.

I am happy to concede that Muslims are just as active in taking away the rights of fellow Muslims. After all, Islam means submission.

Muslims would be incapable of stopping ISIS without the help of non-Muslims

Strange. As far as I can tell it's the Turks, Kurds and Iraqis who have been pushing ISIS back on the ground.

Turkey would be quite happy to provide air cover too - if it wasn't for the Russians enforcing no-fly zones.

In Russia's defence of Assad, "Muslims" have been prevented from dealing with a threat to their region.

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Reply #103 - Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:33am

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

Iraq would have been over-run without western support. As it is it has taken ten years. The US could have wiped out ISIS in about 3 hours if it wasn't for the tendency for Muslims to react violently to the sight of Americans.

Would have? Could have? If it wasn't for?

Saddam kept militias like ISIS away. Yes, after the sanctions, the invasion and the sacking of the Ba'athists, I imagine they would have been overrun.

You?

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Reply #104 - Nov 30^th, 2017 at 6:26pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:33am:

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2017 at 9:04am:

Iraq would have been over-run without western support. As it is it has taken ten years. The US could have wiped out ISIS in about 3 hours if it wasn't for the tendency for Muslims to react violently to the sight of Americans.

Would have? Could have? If it wasn't for?

Saddam kept militias like ISIS away. Yes, after the sanctions, the invasion and the sacking of the Ba'athists, I imagine they would have been overrun.

You?

Saddam supported and financed terrorists ... FACT.
Saddam wanted to rule the Arab world... FACT.

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