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Reply #120 - Dec 2nd, 2017 at 8:54pm
 
Afghanistan: Man Mutilated  and Beheaded by Children
Other Recent "Misunderstandings  of Islam"
2017.12.01 (Pakistan)
The Taliban storm a university campus disguised in burkas and gun down nine innocents.
2017.11.30 (Pakistan)
Deobandi followers fire on a rally for a rival theological group, killing three members.
2017.11.29 (Pakistan)
Gunmen spray bullets into a Shiite mosque, killing two worshippers.
2017.11.28 (Afghanistan)
Three women and a child are among eight civilians blown to bits by Taliban bombers.
2017.11.27 (Afghanistan)
A mosque official is assassinated at the helm by Religion of Peace rivals.
2017.11.27 (Iraq)
Multiple suicide bombers storm a market and take down eleven civilians.
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Reply #121 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:43am
 
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The Independent Commission on Human Rights in Afghanistan has compiled numerous cases of sexual abuse of boys and girls in various parts of the country

Women continue to be tortured, sold, killed, and even mutilated for honour by their husbands and terrorist organisations

Violence against women and teenage boys remains one of the most under-reported abuses. Bacha bazi (sodomy) among other forms of sexual abuse is an old tradition in the country.

Afghanistan, where a man cannot even look at a woman or girl in cities and towns unless he has entered into a marriage contract with her, men often resort to Bacha Bazi (male child prostitution). In this sexually repressed country, sections of society partake in unhealthy and abusive sexual relationships. Bacha Bazi is an old tradition in Afghanistan in which young boys are dressed up as girls and then made to perform at private venues.

Education for girls in these provinces is also considered to be a great sin while sports and other hobbies are not allowed.


There's no doubt muslims are a sick bunch, no wonder leftards bend over backwards to appease them.

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Reply #122 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:59am
 
You are just such a wonderful Christian, Moses.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #123 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 12:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:59am:
You are just such a wonderful Christian, Moses.    Roll Eyes


Lying and distorting and smudging and being ignorant like you is not the way either, Bwian.



Jesuit Father Henri Boulad, an Islamic scholar of the Egyptian Greek Melkite rite, held no punches in an interview concerning the motives of Islamic terror and Western responses to it.  “Islam is an open-ended declaration of war against non-Muslims,” declared the priest, and those who carry out acts of violence and intolerance are only doing what their creed requires.  The report continues:

Those who fail to recognize the real threat posed by Islam are naïve and ignorant of history, he said, and unfortunately many in the Church fall into this category.  Citing a letter he wrote last August to Pope Francis, Father Boulad said that “on the pretext of openness, tolerance and Christian charity — the Catholic Church has fallen into the trap of the liberal left ideology which is destroying the West.”  “Anything that does not espouse this ideology is immediately stigmatized in the name of ‘political correctness,’” he said.  The priest went so far as to chastise Pope Francis himself—a fellow Jesuit—suggesting that he has fallen into this trap as well.  “Many think that a certain number of your positions are aligned with this ideology and that, from complacency, you go from concessions to concessions and compromises in compromises at the expense of the truth,” the priest wrote to Francis. Christians in the West and in the East, he wrote the Pope, “are expecting something from you other than vague and harmless declarations that may obscure reality.” “It is high time to emerge from a shameful and embarrassed silence in the face of this Islamism that attacks the West and the rest of the world. A systematically conciliatory attitude is interpreted by the majority of Muslims as a sign of fear and weakness,” he said. “If Jesus said to us: Blessed are the peacemakers, he did not say to us: Blessed are the pacifists. Peace is peace at any cost, at any price. Such an attitude is a pure and simple betrayal of truth,” he said. The priest also stated his belief that the West is in an ethical and moral debacle, and its defense of Islam is a denial of truth. “By defending at all costs Islam and seeking to exonerate it from the horrors committed every day in its name, one ends up betraying the truth,” he wrote.
http://raymondibrahim.com/2017/11/06/going-burn-alive-muslim-persecution-christi...
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Reply #124 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 2:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 12:37pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 11:59am:
You are just such a wonderful Christian, Moses.    Roll Eyes


Lying and distorting and smudging and being ignorant like you is not the way either, Bwian.


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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, back to the ad hominem insults against, Soren?   It appears you regress so easily to your childhood, where you bullied the younger children in the playground, after of course, you had been bullied in turn.  Settle down on the couch, my boy, and tell us about how much you loved your mother and hated your father...   Roll Eyes

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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #125 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 5:38pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 3rd, 2017 at 2:20pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, back to the ad hominem insults against, Soren?   It appears you regress so easily to your childhood, where you bullied the younger children in the playground, after of course, you had been bullied in turn.  Settle down on the couch, my boy, and tell us about how much you loved your mother and hated your father...


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Reply #126 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 6:11pm
 
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #127 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 30th, 2017 at 9:04am:
Iraq would have been over-run without western support. As it is it has taken ten years. The US could have wiped out ISIS in about 3 hours if it wasn't for the tendency for Muslims to react violently to the sight of Americans.


Nonsense. Iran would have intervened if there was any possibility that ISIS could overrun Iraq - which they clearly couldn't by the way. Overrunning sunni outposts like Ramadi and Fallujah that were extremely hostile to the Iraqi regime with a threadbare force of foreign fighters stretched thinly across both Syria and Iraq - is one thing. Overrunning overwhelmingly shiite strongholds in the rest of Iraq right next door to the regime's key ally and most important backer - is just pure fantasy.

Also, I daresay a nuke or two to wipe out not only ISIS, but the entire population of the area in question could be all done and dusted in a great deal less than 3 hours. But presuming this is not what you are talking about, would you care to explain how this could have been done? You might have forgotton that the US spent 8 years failing to "wipe out" the Iraqi insurgency, at the cost of over 4000 US soldiers. Yet somehow you think they could magically end the ISIS threat once and for all in just 3 hours. Please, do share with us this magic formula.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #128 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 1:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 28th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
Muslims would be incapable of stopping ISIS without the help of non-Muslims - and as it is that help is hindered by the tendency of Muslims to kill Americans on sight.


I think what you meant to say was that muslims are incapable of creating ISIS without the help of non-Muslims - no? Isn't it funny how ISIS and its forebears were never a problem in Iraq or Syria before the invasion of Iraq?


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Who does this slaughtering Gandalf? Have they identified the group responsible yet? If not, would you hazard a guess?


Its muslims FD. Muslims slaughter muslims - in their thousands.

But you will continue to mock, ridicule and dismiss these victims of *MUSLIM* violence as hypocrites and wolves in sheep's clothing. Or am I wrong FD? Will you in fact join me in standing up for them, and applauding them for bravely standing for a peaceful and tolerant Islam and frequently paying the ultimate sacrifice for it (as the sufis in Egypt did)?
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #129 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm
 
Radical Islam has always been in Iraq and Syria. I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria. Domestic politics played a part in that. The biggest blame I believe is this silly sectarian divide that infests the Islamic world.
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Reply #130 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:14pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Radical Islam has always been in Iraq and Syria. I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria. Domestic politics played a part in that. The biggest blame I believe is this silly sectarian divide that infests the Islamic world.


In part, I'd actually agree with you, Hammer.   I would however also look closely at the antics of the Israelis.  They helped create Hamas, when it split from the PLO.   IS was created when it was shunned by Al Q'aeda in Iraq as being "too violent"(!).    Al Q'aeda in Iraq would not have been created without the US invasion of that nation, though.   Saddam was anti-Terrorist, particularly the kind which he couldn't control.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #131 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Radical Islam has always been in Iraq and Syria. I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria. Domestic politics played a part in that. The biggest blame I believe is this silly sectarian divide that infests the Islamic world.


In part, I'd actually agree with you, Hammer.   I would however also look closely at the antics of the Israelis.  They helped create Hamas, when it split from the PLO.   IS was created when it was shunned by Al Q'aeda in Iraq as being "too violent"(!).    Al Q'aeda in Iraq would not have been created without the US invasion of that nation, though.   Saddam was anti-Terrorist, particularly the kind which he couldn't control.    Roll Eyes

A lot of the ISIS problem came out of the revolution against Assad  in Syria which had nothing to do with the US invasion.
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Reply #132 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:17pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
Radical Islam has always been in Iraq and Syria. I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria. Domestic politics played a part in that. The biggest blame I believe is this silly sectarian divide that infests the Islamic world.


In part, I'd actually agree with you, Hammer.   I would however also look closely at the antics of the Israelis.  They helped create Hamas, when it split from the PLO.   IS was created when it was shunned by Al Q'aeda in Iraq as being "too violent"(!).    Al Q'aeda in Iraq would not have been created without the US invasion of that nation, though.   Saddam was anti-Terrorist, particularly the kind which he couldn't control.    Roll Eyes

A lot of the ISIS problem came out of the revolution against Assad  in Syria which had nothing to do with the US invasion.


Things got tough in Iraq after the US troop "surge".  IS fled to Syria where the civil war made their antics easier.  When things got tougher there, they went back to Iraq, after the US had basically left.   It is a common problem with insurgent groups, they seek the easier targets.   It has happened in Pakistan, when the US got serious in Afghanistan, the Taliban decided to take over NW Pakistan.   It was an easier target than Afghanistan and they didn't have as far to travel to their work.   It has happened in Sub-Saharan Africa.  It happened during the Vietnam War.    Roll Eyes
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Re: Muslims suffer the most from 'Islamic' terrorism
Reply #133 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria.


Of course its not entirely true - no one is suggesting that.

But you can't deny the link: before Saddam was overthrown, there was no Jihadi/ISIS threat in Iraq. After he was overthrown, there suddenly was.

And understanding why this was the case - and why it wasn't just a freaky coincidence - is not hard at all. The role of an illegal and unprovoked invasion that killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions - cannot be dismissed. Well, actually it can - if you're a spineless apologist and obfuscator of FD's caliber.
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Reply #134 - Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:51pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
I don't believe it's entirely true that the US is the blame for the creation of ISIS in Syria.


Of course its not entirely true - no one is suggesting that.

But you can't deny the link: before Saddam was overthrown, there was no Jihadi/ISIS threat in Iraq. After he was overthrown, there suddenly was.

And understanding why this was the case - and why it wasn't just a freaky coincidence - is not hard at all. The role of an illegal and unprovoked invasion that killed hundreds of thousands and displaced millions - cannot be dismissed. Well, actually it can - if you're a spineless apologist and obfuscator of FD's caliber.

I'm not discounting the impact of taking power from a minority ruthless Sunni regime (Saddam) to a Shia majority government. The Shia took the opportunity to get revenge. But Iraq has been hanging by a thread for hundreds of years. Me personally if I had any power I wouldn't touch the middle east. It's a mess that will never get any better. Too many people thinking about life after death instead of life.
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