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Reply #555 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:25pm

I think I would feel a little guilty if I unintentionally passed the flu to someone in the course of invading and raping and pillaging their land.

Or not. On second thoughts, if I thought it was acceptable to invade and rape and pillage in the first place, or even apologise for it, I probably wouldn't have too many qualms about the diseases spread because of it.

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Reply #556 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:38pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:25pm:

I think I would feel a little guilty if I unintentionally passed the flu to someone in the course of invading and raping and pillaging their land.

Or not. On second thoughts, if I thought it was acceptable to invade and rape and pillage in the first place, or even apologise for it, I probably wouldn't have too many qualms about the diseases spread because of it.

If you can't defend your land then somebody else is going to take it. It's the way it's always been. there's no wrong or right in it. Only point of views. You seem to always back the losing side or some reason.

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Reply #557 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

If you can't defend your land then somebody else is going to take it. It's the way it's always been. there's no wrong or right in it. Only point of views.

no issue at all with that sentiment. Its honest.

Far better to just accept it for what it is, rather than mealy mouthed apologising at all costs, to the absurd extent of labelling the simple statement of fact that Europeans are responsible for the death of millions because of their invasions and pillaging - as "conwenient wacism", or whatever other catchy weasel words FD can come up with.

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Reply #558 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

If you can't defend your land then somebody else is going to take it. It's the way it's always been. there's no wrong or right in it. Only point of views.

no issue at all with that sentiment. Its honest.

Far better to just accept it for what it is, rather than mealy mouthed apologising at all costs, to the absurd extent of labelling the simple statement of fact that Europeans are responsible for the death of millions because of their invasions and pillaging - as "conwenient wacism", or whatever other catchy weasel words FD can come up with.

Why only mention Europeans? There's not many peoples on earth that haven't raped and pillaged. And passed on the odd disease.

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Reply #560 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 7:49pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Agreed. I condemn all invaders and rapists and pillagers and hold them all responsible for the diseases they spread in the process.

What good has Islam brought to any Western country?

Invasion, rape, pillage. nothing positive, no improvements to existing Western societies. Islam's impact is wholly negative on the West. It has never been any different.

You are invited to show us what is positive about Islam in any Western country.

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Reply #561 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 9:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:25pm:

I think I would feel a little guilty if I unintentionally passed the flu to someone in the course of invading and raping and pillaging their land.

Or not. On second thoughts, if I thought it was acceptable to invade and rape and pillage in the first place, or even apologise for it, I probably wouldn't have too many qualms about the diseases spread because of it.

What if your smallpox killed off an entire civilisation?

Should we ask Homo, or do you want to say?

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Reply #562 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 9:10pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

If you can't defend your land then somebody else is going to take it. It's the way it's always been. there's no wrong or right in it. Only point of views.

no issue at all with that sentiment. Its honest.

Far better to just accept it for what it is, rather than mealy mouthed apologising at all costs, to the absurd extent of labelling the simple statement of fact that Europeans are responsible for the death of millions because of their invasions and pillaging - as "conwenient wacism", or whatever other catchy weasel words FD can come up with.

Why only mention Europeans? There's not many peoples on earth that haven't raped and pillaged. And passed on the odd disease.

Good heavens, Homo, this is about the Arabs who spread European diseases by forcing them to invade the tinted races. Haven't you read the posts here?

FD, Homo seems to be ignoring you. Do you want to say it again?

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Reply #563 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 9:17pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Agreed. I condemn all invaders and rapists and pillagers and hold them all responsible for the diseases they spread in the process.

What good has Islam brought to any Western country?

It killed off the entire Sydney Boong population, for a start. Then there's the Aztecs.

What have you Danes brought us, old chap? I'm curious.

Any diseases?

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Reply #564 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:43pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Agreed. I condemn all invaders and rapists and pillagers and hold them all responsible for the diseases they spread in the process.

What good has Islam brought to any Western country?

It killed off the entire Sydney Boong population, for a start. Then there's the Aztecs.

What have you Danes brought us, old chap? I'm curious.

Any diseases?

m0ron.

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Reply #565 - Apr 17^th, 2018 at 11:17pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 10:43pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 7:49pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Agreed. I condemn all invaders and rapists and pillagers and hold them all responsible for the diseases they spread in the process.

What good has Islam brought to any Western country?

It killed off the entire Sydney Boong population, for a start. Then there's the Aztecs.

What have you Danes brought us, old chap? I'm curious.

Any diseases?

m0ron.

That explains that, then. Look at all the marvellous things the Danes have brought to our country.

Spelling.

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Reply #566 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

Are you conceding that most did not die of European diseases? Does that mean you no longer think Europeans are to blame?

Why would you say that?

Millions died because the Europeans invaded, raped and pillaged the Americas. I don't know the exact breakdown of the deaths, but its reasonable to assume most died from the diseases the Europeans brought and spread. But plenty died from other related causes - like starvation, forced labor and just plain murder. Agreed?

And in case its not clear, I blame Europeans for all of the deaths. Wacist I know.

The vast majority were from introduced diseases. Not all the people who brought these diseases over did so with the intention of raping and pillaging.

Are you conceding that this vast majority did not die from "European diseases", but you still blame Europeans anyway?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

Agreed. I condemn all invaders and rapists and pillagers and hold them all responsible for the diseases they spread in the process.

What about Muhammad and his merry band of Islamic terrorists? Or does it not count when Muslims do it?

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Reply #567 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 10:01am

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am:

The vast majority were from introduced diseases.

Who introduced them FD? The invaders perhaps? Hmmm take your time.

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am:

Not all the people who brought these diseases over did so with the intention of raping and pillaging.

Good point FD - many invaders and thieves invaded and thieved with the best of intentions. Its important to acknowledge this.

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am:

Are you conceding that this vast majority did not die from "European diseases", but you still blame Europeans anyway?

I concede that labelling the diseases Europeans brought and introduced to the New World through invasion and theft of land as "European Diseases" is considered "wacism" by at least one person here. I also concede that the same person considers the apportioning of blame to Europeans for the deaths these diseases caused is even worse wacism and simply outrageous.

But most of all I concede that both these claims that this person considers wacist and outrageous are absolutely correct and appropriate.

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am:

What about Muhammad and his merry band of Islamic terrorists? Or does it not count when Muslims do it?

At least we can absolve Muhammad of any blame for the diseases his rapists and pillagers spread. As long as they didn't know they had the diseases of course.

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Reply #568 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 12:38pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18^th, 2018 at 8:05am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

Are you conceding that most did not die of European diseases? Does that mean you no longer think Europeans are to blame?

Why would you say that?

Millions died because the Europeans invaded, raped and pillaged the Americas. I don't know the exact breakdown of the deaths, but its reasonable to assume most died from the diseases the Europeans brought and spread. But plenty died from other related causes - like starvation, forced labor and just plain murder. Agreed?

And in case its not clear, I blame Europeans for all of the deaths. Wacist I know.

The vast majority were from introduced diseases. Not all the people who brought these diseases over did so with the intention of raping and pillaging.

That's true, FD. How about those transported as slaves?

They're tinted.

GUILTY.

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Reply #569 - Apr 18^th, 2018 at 6:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 4:02pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

Are you conceding that most did not die of European diseases? Does that mean you no longer think Europeans are to blame?

Why would you say that?

Millions died because the Europeans invaded, raped and pillaged the Americas. I don't know the exact breakdown of the deaths, but its reasonable to assume most died from the diseases the Europeans brought and spread. But plenty died from other related causes - like starvation, forced labor and just plain murder. Agreed?

And in case its not clear, I blame Europeans for all of the deaths. Wacist I know.

The Chinese gave the world the Black Death. Time to ask them for compo. Oh, and avian flu.

Oh, and shoddy merchandise.

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Question: Is saying "Arabs are responsible for diseases spread by Arabs, just like Europeans are responsible for diseases spread by Europeans" blatant racism?
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