polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 8^th, 2017 at 6:53pm:


Ok, so I guess you understand best out of all of us why it is not good for someone like Karnal to try and attribute me to supporting all of Pauline Hanson's views just because I happen to have a similar opinion on a particular issue?  So Identity politics isn't a made up right wing catchphrase. In fact, it's a massive problem that's completely degrading debate in the western world.  Hence why we have the Trumpettes who can't possibly see anything wrong with what Trump does and says. Or how we have the Hillary's, who still can't fathom that perhaps some of her political positions cost her the election.

Once again Karnal shows how dishonest he is.

I will say that it is never acceptable to pigeonhole an individual without first understanding their actual opinion, as of course, just because a person may define themselves as a 'conservative muslim' does not mean THAT person believes all apostates should be killed. But, talking about an opinion that is generally attributed to a group is not the same thing. Something mothra can't seem to comprehend.

If not racism, Islam-inspired bigoted collectivism:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:

Gandalf thinks the question is so stupid it cannot possibly be answered, except when he asks it. Only the early Muslims and the Arabs and the victims of Muhammad's genocide were mindless collectives. Obvious, isn't it?

Are you now saying the question itself is not too stupid to answer Gandalf?

Do you consider modern Muslims to be a mindless collective?

Just because it is absurd does not mean Muslims don't think it Gandalf.

When did Muslims stop being a mindless collective?

When did Muslims stop being a mindless collective?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 4:09pm:



The obvious absurdity is due to the fact that not all 1.5 billion nominally Muslim people believe in Islam and Mohammed's example.  But if you said, " Are all the people of the globe who believe the Koran and Mohammed a mindless collective", then the answer must be yes.

You cannot possibly accept the Koran as an eternal text and that Mohammed as anything but a fraud. Mohammed's claim to prophethood is thee Koran. The Koran is a gigantic joke, a compilation of disjointed, constantly self-contradictory mish-mash. You must be of the 'mindless collective' to submit to it.

The best of the Muslims, the Ahmadiyyads, are as deluded as the rest but at least they want to do NO HARM. Unlike the others.  Islam has been the enemy of the West from the very start. Islam is a reaction to the 'West' (Christianity). It tried to be the new Christianity, the new Jewish covenant displacing Christianity, When the Jews laughed at Mohammed, he turned murderous. SO now Muslims are seething against the Jews (as 'revealed' in the Koran,  ) and the 'mindless collective' (42% of Muslims are illiterate) are demanding that their dark stupidity be respected.

Do something about Muslim illiteracy so Muslims will NOT be such a 'mindless collective'. How about that?

That 42% masks the reality of FEMALE ILLITERACY among Muslims. You put them in black sacks, you keep them illiterate, you fear and loath them - and then you ask your stupid beards and pajamas to be respected!!! No wonder you are known as the 'mindless, stupid frikken kollective'.

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:


FD do you agree?