Australian Politics Forum - 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #75 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 8:11pm That is because I have not been able to read the full document yet.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21742 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #76 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 8:59pm So tell us about CO2 emissions being high in Winter again.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #77 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:09pm

lee wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 5:50pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 2:04pm:

but may generate more electricity per turbine if it gets more constant or stronger wind.

You mean like a fossil fuel plant may generate more electricity if we up the increase the fuel? Wink

Exactly. But without the equivalent increase in CO2 emissions.

You're learning... so very, very, very, very, very slowly... Grin

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #78 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:12pm A snail leaves Lees panting in its train.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #79 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:18pm

Moriaty wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Exactly. But without the equivalent increase in CO2 emissions.

But far more likely than a "may increase" electricity output.

If it gets a stronger wind it may shut down completely to prevent damage.

"Controller:
Starts up the machine at wind speeds of about 8 to 16 miles per hour (mph) and shuts off the machine at about 55 mph. Turbines do not operate at wind speeds above about 55 mph because they may be damaged by the high winds."

https://energy.gov/eere/wind/inside-wind-turbine-0

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #80 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:30pm Not talking about a huge gale, talking of good strong, productive winds. Even coal fired generators need to close occasionally—maintenance.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #81 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:36pm

lee wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Moriaty wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Exactly. But without the equivalent increase in CO2 emissions.

But far more likely than a "may increase" electricity output.

If it gets a stronger wind it may shut down completely to prevent damage.

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Correct. Note that the same storms that caused wind turbines to shut down and lock in, also smashed the transmission grid in SA recently thereby cutting off the coal and gas powered gen.

So your point is that damaging weather systems cause damage?

A valid point. But valid for every gen capacity regardless of fuel origin.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #82 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:39pm

lee wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:18pm:

Moriaty wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:09pm:

Exactly. But without the equivalent increase in CO2 emissions.

But far more likely than a "may increase" electricity output.

aaahhh the use of the word likely, indicating statistical grounds for discussion....

And how "likely" is the increase in output vs CO2 emissions?

Elucidate. Explain. Educate... Huh

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21742 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #83 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:53pm Moriaty wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 9:39pm: And how "likely" is the increase in output vs CO2 emissions? Likely. How likely an increase in wind generated electricity with more wind?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #84 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:04pm So more wind offshore?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21742 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #85 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:12pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:04pm: So more wind offshore? No. It must be all those trees and buildings reducing the wind.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #86 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:16pm Offshore? We know you are not up to speed on technical matters but. . .
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21742 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #87 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:17pm Oh dear. JM does not understand sarcasm. How sad.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #88 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:21pm With you I find it is far safer to think lies/incompetence etc than sarcasm.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21742 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #89 - Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 21^st, 2017 at 10:21pm: With you I find it is far safer to think lies/incompetence etc than sarcasm. yes. You believe others are exactly like you.
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