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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #30 - Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm:

There will be no new coal fired generators.

Wind farms in and either side of Backstairs Passage will be built.

If this summer is truly horrible with blackouts in NSW/Vic/SA then nuclear becomes a lot more possible.

But burning 80000lt per hour of diesel is better.....yeah thats progressive isnt it.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #31 - Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:32pm If need be, as fallback, until we get serious about renewables + nuclear and phase out coal.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #32 - Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

If need be, as fallback, until we get serious about renewables + nuclear and phase out coal.

Well how about we just burn coal. Save kazzillions of tax payers dollars and celebrate how awesome life is with co2.

You could invent another future dated catastrophic drama to fill your days,,,,how about this, a new ice age??

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #33 - Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:55pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 15^th, 2017 at 6:32pm:

If need be, as fallback, until we get serious about renewables + nuclear and phase out coal.

80,000 lt of diesel per hour. Its so awesome i just have to repeat it. This is the new improved environment we have been rewarded with.

You meet some dumb f#cks in life, but no one is as dumb as the useful idiots to the cause.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #34 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 3:05pm

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which had surrounded the Neart na Gaoithe offshore wind farm. The UK’s Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) has been trying valiantly to prevent the construction of as much as 2.3 gigawatts (GW) worth of offshore wind off the coast of Scotland, due to concerns over the impact on migratory seabirds. In July of 2016, a judge in the Outer Court of Session in Scotland revoked consent for four separate wind farms — the 600-megawatt (MW) Inch Cape Offshore wind farm, the 450 MW Neart Na Gaoithe offshore wind farm, and the 525 MW (each) Seagreen Alpha and Bravo projects. This May, however, the Inner House at the Court of Session in Edinburgh, Scotland, overturned the July revocation. . . .

“It will create more than 500 direct jobs during construction and over 100 direct permanent jobs once operational. £540 million will be directly invested in Scotland during the construction phase with a further £610m during the operational phase.”

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/21/go-ahead-given-450-mw-neart-na-gaoithe-offs...

Wish we could do something like that! In Backstairs Passage between Kangaroo Is and the mainland would be a great place. Jobs and investment, clean power.

Bringing this to the front again.

2.5GW is a lot of power. We could get a similar amount of power with windfarms in/around Backstairs Passage, very reliable wind there.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #35 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 4:28pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 3:05pm: 2.5GW is a lot of power. It would be if it was constant.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #36 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 4:52pm Plenty of areas where wind is pretty constant. Renewable power needs an ultrahigh voltage DC network to transmit power to where it is needed. I like nuclear as the non–intermittent power source.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #37 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 6:50pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 4:52pm: Plenty of areas where wind is pretty constant. oh. Only pretty constant. Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 4:52pm: I like nuclear as the non–intermittent power source. Ok. Then why the need for an intermittent power source?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #38 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:04pm You want to cover the world in waste? If we had fusion, sure, 100% nuclear might be possible.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #39 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:17pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:04pm: You want to cover the world in waste? If we had fusion, sure, 100% nuclear might be possible. So no need for renewables.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #40 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:26pm We have fission not fusion.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #41 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:34pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:26pm: We have fission not fusion. And we still have no need for renewables.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #42 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:45pm Yeah, we do. You know that, you are just suppressing the knowledge.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #43 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 10:04pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 17^th, 2017 at 9:45pm: Yeah, we do. You know that, you are just suppressing the knowledge. You must tell me how that's done oh erudite one.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #44 - Aug 17^th, 2017 at 11:11pm

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which had surrounded the Neart na Gaoithe offshore wind farm. The UK’s Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) has been trying valiantly to prevent the construction of as much as 2.3 gigawatts (GW) worth of offshore wind off the coast of Scotland, due to concerns over the impact on migratory seabirds. In July of 2016, a judge in the Outer Court of Session in Scotland revoked consent for four separate wind farms — the 600-megawatt (MW) Inch Cape Offshore wind farm, the 450 MW Neart Na Gaoithe offshore wind farm, and the 525 MW (each) Seagreen Alpha and Bravo projects. This May, however, the Inner House at the Court of Session in Edinburgh, Scotland, overturned the July revocation. . . .

“It will create more than 500 direct jobs during construction and over 100 direct permanent jobs once operational. £540 million will be directly invested in Scotland during the construction phase with a further £610m during the operational phase.”

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/21/go-ahead-given-450-mw-neart-na-gaoithe-offs...

Wish we could do something like that! In Backstairs Passage between Kangaroo Is and the mainland would be a great place. Jobs and investment, clean power.

Bringing this to the front again.

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