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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #15 - Aug 12^th, 2017 at 11:21pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2017 at 12:54am:

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which had surrounded the Neart na Gaoithe offshore wind farm. The UK’s Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) has been trying valiantly to prevent the construction of as much as 2.3 gigawatts (GW) worth of offshore wind off the coast of Scotland, due to concerns over the impact on migratory seabirds. In July of 2016, a judge in the Outer Court of Session in Scotland revoked consent for four separate wind farms — the 600-megawatt (MW) Inch Cape Offshore wind farm, the 450 MW Neart Na Gaoithe offshore wind farm, and the 525 MW (each) Seagreen Alpha and Bravo projects. This May, however, the Inner House at the Court of Session in Edinburgh, Scotland, overturned the July revocation. . . .

“It will create more than 500 direct jobs during construction and over 100 direct permanent jobs once operational. £540 million will be directly invested in Scotland during the construction phase with a further £610m during the operational phase.”

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/21/go-ahead-given-450-mw-neart-na-gaoithe-offs...

Wish we could do something like that! In Backstairs Passage between Kangaroo Is and the mainland would be a great place. Jobs and investment, clean power.

Bringing this to the front again.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #16 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 1:04am

2GW

of off and on shore windmills in and on both sides of Backstairs Passage would really solve SA’s energy problem, probably could sell some to Vic

http://ramblingsdc.net/Australia/WindPPotential.html#Potential_wind_power_in_Aus...

Even just on KI there is potential for over 2GW windpower.

Do a search on: wind power potential of Backstairs Passage

If building off shore, could maybe add tidal.

Wind blows in and either side of Backstairs Passage pretty much every day of the year, e.g. in the hills behind the town of Middleton.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #17 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:04am

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 1:04am:

2GW

of off and on shore windmills in and on both sides of Backstairs Passage would really solve SA’s energy problem, probably could sell some to Vic

http://ramblingsdc.net/Australia/WindPPotential.html#Potential_wind_power_in_Aus...

Even just on KI there is potential for over 2GW windpower.

Do a search on: wind power potential of Backstairs Passage

If building off shore, could maybe add tidal.

Wind blows in and either side of Backstairs Passage pretty much every day of the year, e.g. in the hills behind the town of Middleton.

We all thought diesel gen sets were all the rage in SA. Didn't you lot just spend $111m on a new green initiative....oops I mean diesel gen sets?

How do you justify the environment destroying batteries you and that muppet show called elon and jay love so much?

You are so drowning in the sh#t you write.

So aptly named Wind Power Back Passage. You cant make this tripe up.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #18 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:36am

If this summer is stinking hot then SA might actually come out of it the best out of NSW/Vic/SA. The diesel generators will be converted to gas after this coming summer.

Part of the problem in SA & Vic—privatised networks where cost cutting makes them fragile to a bit of wind etc.

2GW of wind energy from on and off shore windfarms in and around Backstairs Passage would be good and is possible.

Be nice to have nuclear as part of the mix, SA has the geology to site a nuke generator properly away from major earthquakes and tsunamis.

We have to stop burning fossil fuels.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #19 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 12:27pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2017 at 11:19pm: Nah, just crap to bury the OP. Why? You were the one brought up "Coal Kills". So why shouldn't I respond to that?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #20 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 12:29pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 1:04am: Even just on KI there is potential for over 2GW windpower. Do a search on: wind power potential of Backstairs Passage And do a search on "company wants to build renewables in Backstairs Passage, without subsidies".
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #21 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 1:51pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 11:36am:

If this summer is stinking hot then SA might actually come out of it the best out of NSW/Vic/SA. The diesel generators will be converted to gas after this coming summer.

Part of the problem in SA & Vic—privatised networks where cost cutting makes them fragile to a bit of wind etc.

2GW of wind energy from on and off shore windfarms in and around Backstairs Passage would be good and is possible.

Be nice to have nuclear as part of the mix, SA has the geology to site a nuke generator properly away from major earthquakes and tsunamis.

We have to stop burning fossil fuels.

How do you convert a diesel engine to gas??

Or more like it, your gonna replace your energy generating capacity for a third time. How much do the tax payers have to pay for this rank stupidity?

Should have built a new coal fired power station or three and canned ya dumb Renewabull nonsense, and we'd all be paying less for our power.

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Reply #22 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:01pm

Actually, coal fired power stations are the reason for high electricity prices.

We do need to stop burning coal, it emits CO2 and also emits cadmium and uranium as well as particulate emissions that cause respiratory diseases even death in the populations around and downwind of coal fired generators. We need nuclear generators to provide solid electricity to industry and smooth out fluctuations of wind & solar etc.

As to converting the diesel generators—how do they convert cars from petrol to gasoline?

But putting some large wind farms in and on the sides of Backstairs Passage will see Sa become a net exporter of electricity. Victoria will need to buy electricity this summer now Hazelwood was closed by its private owner. Same with Pt Augusta in SA.

Over the next 20 years there will be a heap of coal fired generators will reach the end of their economic life and close. Would pay governments to get started on nuclear and large scale renewables without delay!

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #23 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:13pm This could be a way of reducing evaporation from reservoirs while using the space they take up for solar power.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #24 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:28pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:01pm: how do they convert cars from petrol to gasoline? Say what?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21724 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #25 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:32pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:01pm: Actually, coal fired power stations are the reason for high electricity prices. Nothing to do with renewables and their subsidies. Nothing to do with the need for a fast ramp up time when renewables aren't generating. Right.
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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #26 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 5:31pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

Actually, coal fired power stations are the reason for high electricity prices.

We do need to stop burning coal, it emits CO2 and also emits cadmium and uranium as well as particulate emissions that cause respiratory diseases even death in the populations around and downwind of coal fired generators. We need nuclear generators to provide solid electricity to industry and smooth out fluctuations of wind & solar etc.

As to converting the diesel generators—how do they convert cars from petrol to gasoline?

But putting some large wind farms in and on the sides of Backstairs Passage will see Sa become a net exporter of electricity. Victoria will need to buy electricity this summer now Hazelwood was closed by its private owner. Same with Pt Augusta in SA.
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Over the next 20 years there will be a heap of coal fired generators will reach the end of their economic life and close. Would pay governments to get started on nuclear and large scale renewables without delay!

1. Wrong.
2. Rubbish. Agree nuclear.
3. Diesel to gas is what you said, let me know when the fact hits the fan.
4. SA will never export power.
5. We will upgrade and build new coal fired power stations, it is the only sane thing to do.

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Reply #27 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 6:42pm

5. Nope, not even the CEOs of the power companies are interested in upgrading/renovating/building coal fired power stations.

If you had read some of the science I have posted you would see that we must reduce CO2 emissions. Easier to avoid reading the science and go with your prejudices I guess. That is called burying your head in the sand, or cowardice.

SA has huge potential for windpower and, being half craton, ideal for nuclear.

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Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland
Reply #28 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:07pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 13^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

5. Nope, not even the CEOs of the power companies are interested in upgrading/renovating/building coal fired power stations.

If you had read some of the science I have posted you would see that we must reduce CO2 emissions. Easier to avoid reading the science and go with your prejudices I guess. That is called burying your head in the sand, or cowardice.

SA has huge potential for windpower and, being half craton, ideal for nuclear.

You quote rubbish social enginering as science, at best, based on fraudulently manipulated data.

Wind power Potential is irrelevant as it is unviable, uneconomic, unreliable.

Three factors which are key for secure, safe supply of electricity.

Have you considered taking up a valid hobby? Golf, croquet? This globull climate catastrophic nonsense is so debunked.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: 2GW windpower offshore of Scotland Reply #29 - Aug 13^th, 2017 at 7:11pm There will be no new coal fired generators. Wind farms in and either side of Backstairs Passage will be built. If this summer is truly horrible with blackouts in NSW/Vic/SA then nuclear becomes a lot more possible.
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