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Reply #150 - Aug 27th, 2017 at 6:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 6:28pm:
What are you babbling about Cpl Lees? Been hitting the turps this afternoon?


Oh dear JM has forgotten all about the GFC. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #151 - Aug 27th, 2017 at 7:24pm
 
That was years before the ETS.
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Reply #152 - Aug 28th, 2017 at 5:29pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 25th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
Just a price increase to drive changes in behavior that led to lower power consumption.



https://industry.gov.au/Office-of-the-Chief-Economist/Publications/Documents/aes...

That isn't what fig 3.2 shows.
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Reply #153 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 10:32am
 
Quote:
3.2 By sector
The electricity supply, transport and manufacturing sectors accounted for
three-quarters of Australian energy consumption in 2014–15 (Table 3.3).

The electricity supply sector accounted for 28 per cent of Australia’s energy
consumption in 2014–15. Energy consumption in this sector (including fuel
inputs to electricity generation, own use and losses) rose by 5 per cent in that
year, in response to increased electricity demand in the National Electricity
Market (NEM) and off-grid, and an increase in the share of coal in the fuel mix.

This is in contrast to the recent trend, with energy use for electricity supply
generally in decline between 2008–09 and 2013–14 (Figure 3.3).

When measuring energy consumption, an increase in coal fired generation
contributes more to primary energy consumption than an increase in renewable
generation, because coal has a lower conversion efficiency.

The transport sector accounted for 27 per cent of Australian energy
consumption. Increased energy use in road transport resulted in a 2 per cent
increase in the transport sector in 2014–15 (Table 3.4). Road transport
accounted for nearly three-quarters of energy consumption in the sector.

Air transport, which accounted for a further 19 per cent of consumption, fell slightly
in 2014–15 in line with a fall in activity, particularly passenger transport.


From Lees’ link.

Doesn’t say what Cpl Lees says it did. Oh dear, lying again Lees?
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Reply #154 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:35am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 10:32am:
Doesn’t say what Cpl Lees says it did. Oh dear, lying again Lees?


Your comprehension issues again. FIGURE 3.2.

Of course if you want to look at Table 3.3 Electricity -0.4% over 10years. You are the supposed statistics master. How significant is that? Rounding errors?
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Reply #155 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:38am
 
Can’t copy Fig 3.2. but the text preceding it was what I quoted.

You lied, again.

As to the electricity stats—10 years so nothing to do with the ETS.
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Reply #156 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 3:23pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:38am:
As to the electricity stats—10 years so nothing to do with the ETS.



So what years are you putting on the ETS? When electricity consumption dropped.
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Reply #157 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 5:23pm
 
Don’t you know, Cpl Lees?

When was it enacted, when did it come into effect, when did abbott rescind it?

Pretty recent sort of history.
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Reply #158 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 6:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 5:23pm:
When was it enacted, when did it come into effect, when did abbott rescind it?



Yep. I wanted to know what dates you wanted to use. Wink

Enacted Nov 2011, rescinded Jul 2014

Rather strange. The data is different in the annual reports to the data in Table L. Apparently they changed methodologies, but it is too hard to explain.

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Reply #159 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:52pm
 
So you looked it up? Clever little Lees.

The coalition clowns have managed to kill business and INcrease emissions. What wonderful clowns they are!
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Reply #160 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:52pm:
The coalition clowns have managed to kill business and INcrease emissions. What wonderful clowns they are!



How wonderful. More electricity generated, more emissions and business still died?

Your fantasies are getting on top of you. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #161 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 10:28pm
 
lee wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:52pm:
The coalition clowns have managed to kill business and INcrease emissions. What wonderful clowns they are!



How wonderful. More electricity generated, more emissions and business still died?

Your fantasies are getting on top of you. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Libs have killed business—witness the steady loss of full time work, decreases in hours worked etc yet emissions INcreased.
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Reply #162 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:52am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Libs have killed business—witness the steady loss of full time work, decreases in hours worked etc yet emissions INcreased.



The old correlation  =  causation mantra. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #163 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 5:22pm
 
No, I just said the Libs had killed business, reduced employment and hours worked yet increased emissions. I did not say they were related: don’t know what caused the emissions increase.
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Reply #164 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 5:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 5:22pm:
No, I just said the Libs had killed business, reduced employment and hours worked yet increased emissions. I did not say they were related: don’t know what caused the emissions increase.


Lee is a nice bloke and very patient with you dopey- why dont you pay him some respect?
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