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Reply #150 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:18pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:02pm:

I honestly don't know how i could have made myself clearer without inserting a disclaimer as a footnote.

Let's break it down.

"They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things ... "

This quite clearly indicates that you believe that at least some Muslims do do those things. Otherwise, you would have said "no Muslim does these things".

" ... and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim".

Yes, of course they are.

The majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims. We all know that.

However, nowhere have you said that all terrorism is carried out by non-Muslims.

SW can be strange, at times.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #151 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:20pm Yes. It really was very straight forward. I think Secret understands now. At least, he's gone very quiet.
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Reply #152 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

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Reply #153 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:24pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

Nothing, to a reasonable, rational person. They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim.

"Those things", holding up signs that declare that those who insult the prophet are to be beheaded and diving into crowds or blowing people are associated with Islam, precisely because it is Muslims holding up the signs, driving into the crowds and blowing people up.

Not the only ones... though that is problematic for the signs, but you opted in this thread, to my post to claim "that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim" is wrong, they are uncontestably done by Muslims.

Muslims are associated with terrorism because Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

So, happy to admit you're a Nazi then?

I mean, you're right wing and white, yeah?

If you're going to associate all people with the actions of a few who share a common characteristic, you're a Nazi.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #154 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm And a terrorist. A Nazi terrorist. I'm just following your logic, Secret.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143938 Gender:	Re: Blair Cottrel Reply #155 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:28pm mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:26pm: And a terrorist. A Nazi terrorist. I'm just following your logic, Secret. Logic? Wow! You're in a generous mood.
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Reply #156 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim", it is undeniable, despite Mothras attempted apologism that Muslims are holding the signs, driving the cars into crowds and blowing people up.

Pedantics innit.

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Reply #157 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:31pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who aren't Muslim", it is undeniable, despite Mothras attempted apologism that Muslims are holding the signs, driving the cars into crowds and blowing people up.

Pedantics innit.

Nope. I was wrong. He still doesn't get it.

Astonishing.

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Reply #158 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:33pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who are Muslim",

Why must you lie?

She never said that.

She said "those things are done by people who aren't Muslim".

And, she's 100% correct.

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Reply #159 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who aren't Muslim", it is undeniable, despite Mothras attempted apologism that Muslims are holding the signs, driving the cars into crowds and blowing people up.

Pedantics innit.

Nope. I was wrong. He still doesn't get it.

Astonishing.

Oh I get it, it is unfortunate for you that I am only addressing what you said, and unfortunately for you, and for us, those things are done by Muslims.

The reason. Islam is associated with terrorism is because of Islamic terrorists.

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Reply #160 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who aren't Muslim", it is undeniable, despite Mothras attempted apologism that Muslims are holding the signs, driving the cars into crowds and blowing people up.

Pedantics innit.

Nope. I was wrong. He still doesn't get it.

Astonishing.

I'm just sitting here shaking my head.

It's like watching a Mr Hammer clone, who's had a lobotomy.

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Reply #162 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:31pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

All Muslims are incorrectly associated with terrorism because some Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

Fixed.

And, some non-Muslims are associated with terrorism, because the majority of terrorist attacks carried out throughout history, all over the world, have been carried out by some non-Muslims.

Don't "fix" my quotes.

If you want to fix quotes fix the quote from your wingman who said that "those things aren't done by people who aren't Muslim", it is undeniable, despite Mothras attempted apologism that Muslims are holding the signs, driving the cars into crowds and blowing people up.

Pedantics innit.

Nope. I was wrong. He still doesn't get it.

Astonishing.

I'm just sitting here shaking my head.

It's like watching a Mr Hammer clone, who's had a lobotomy.

Never was this more true:

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/were-only-human/is-racism-just-a-form-...

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Reply #163 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:42pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

Oh I get it, it is unfortunate for you that I am only addressing what you said, and unfortunately for you, and for us, those things are done by Muslims.

Nobody has denied that.

And, additionally, "those things are done by people who aren't Muslim", just as mothra said.

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:37pm:

The reason. Islam is associated with terrorism is because of Islamic terrorists.

The reason non-Muslims are associated with terrorism is because of non-Muslim terrorists.

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Reply #164 - Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:43pm

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:33pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 3:14pm:

It was directly associating the entire muslim community with terrorism.

What does holding up signs saying "behead those who insult the prophet" or driving into crowds of people or blowing people up associate Muslims with?

Nothing, to a reasonable, rational person. They understand immediately that most Muslims don't do those things and that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim.

"Those things", holding up signs that declare that those who insult the prophet are to be beheaded and diving into crowds or blowing people are associated with Islam, precisely because it is Muslims holding up the signs, driving into the crowds and blowing people up.

Not the only ones... though that is problematic for the signs, but you opted in this thread, to my post to claim "that those things are done by people who aren't Muslim" is wrong, they are uncontestably done by Muslims.

Muslims are associated with terrorism because Muslims are holding up the signs, blowing the people up and driving into crowds.

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