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Question: Should Australia consider changing to nuclear energy generation?
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No—too much danger    
  4 (80.0%)
Yes—AGW, baseload power    
  1 (20.0%)
Don’t know    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 5
« Created by: Jovial Monk on: Jul 25th, 2017 at 10:42am »

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Reply #120 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:56pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:21pm:
I notice there is a lot of concentration on the hazards of nuclear power but no attention to the hazards of continuing to burn coal.

Bobby is worried about the way the reactors work. No nuclear generator has exploded except  Chernobyl and that was due to boneheaded stupidity!



Accidents happen especially when you're operating at 150 atmospheres of pressure.

So how many have actually exploded?

You say that you believe in AGW (once the non-existent ice age has passed) and if you do you know we need to reduce GHG emissions.

Renewables won’t quite cut it by itself, being basically intermittent.


You don't need an exploding reactor for there to be a problem.
Surely you know this?
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Reply #121 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 10:59pm
 
So how many problems have happened?

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Reply #122 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:00pm
 
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Reply #123 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:02pm
 
So 5 accidents this century, four if we discount Fukushima.

Again, I have never said nuclear is without risk, but so is burning coal to make electricity—AGW.
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Re: Should we switch to nuclear power generation?
Reply #124 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
So 5 accidents this century, four if we discount Fukushima.

Again, I have never said nuclear is without risk, but so is burning coal to make electricity—AGW.
try this

Globally, there have been at least 99 (civilian and military) recorded nuclear power plant accidents from 1952 to 2009
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_power_accidents_by_country
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Reply #125 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:07pm
 
Mostly in old tech reactors.

And coal is not fail safe either.
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Reply #126 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
So 5 accidents this century, four if we discount Fukushima.

Again, I have never said nuclear is without risk, but so is burning coal to make electricity—AGW.


I didn't say in was a comprehensive list but its not bad.

It does show your claims to be wrong though.

Chernobyl and Fukashima are still ongoing problems...  aren't they.  Their impact is much wider than just the footprint of their reactors. Roll Eyes

You need to go away and have a rethink....  read more, learn more, get up to date as well... but not post science fiction.
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Reply #127 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm
 
Chernobyl and Fukushima were not the fault of the tech itself.

Modern nuclear is safe.

Burning coal is not safe either.
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Reply #128 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:12pm
 
Here is a report on deaths caused by mining and burning coal:

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Energy accidents
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Deepwater Horizon oil spill discharges 4.9 million barrels. (2010)

Rescue effort after the 2014 Soma mine disaster in Manisa, Turkey, where over 300 miners lost their lives.

Energy resources bring with them great social and economic promise, providing financial growth for communities and energy services for local economies. However, the infrastructure which delivers energy services can break down in an energy accident, sometimes causing much damage, and energy fatalities can occur, and with many systems often deaths will happen even when the systems are working as intended.

Historically, coal mining has been the most dangerous energy activity and the list of historical coal mining disasters is a long one. Underground mining hazards include suffocation, gas poisoning, roof collapse and gas explosions. Open cut mining hazards are principally mine wall failures and vehicle collisions. In the US alone, more than 100,000 coal miners have been killed in accidents over the past century,[1] with more than 3,200 dying in 1907 alone.[2]

According to Benjamin K. Sovacool, 279 major energy accidents occurred from 1907 to 2007 and they caused 182,156 deaths with $41 billion in property damages, with these figures not including deaths from smaller accidents.[3]

However, by far the greatest energy fatalities that result from energy generation by humanity, is the creation of air pollution. The most lethal of which, particulate matter, which is primarily generated from the burning of fossil fuels and biomass is (counting outdoor air pollution effects only) estimated to cause 2.1 million deaths annually.[4][5]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_accidents

And this does not cover the major problem with coal: AGW.
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Re: Should we switch to nuclear power generation?
Reply #129 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:18pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
Chernobyl and Fukushima were not the fault of the tech itself.

Modern nuclear is safe.

Burning coal is not safe either.




Nuclear is not safe - it's very dangerous.
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Reply #130 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:19pm
 
So is crossing the road.

But coal has killed more people than nuclear accidents have done—and is posing a huge problem in the shape of global warming.
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Reply #131 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
Chernobyl and Fukushima were not the fault of the tech itself.

Modern nuclear is safe.



another topic monk is proven to be way out of his depth ..

this is forgiven yet exposed by his own hand .

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Reply #132 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:21pm
 
At least I don’t believe in nonsense like little green men and a flat earth.
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Reply #133 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:23pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:21pm:
At least I don’t believe in nonsense like little green men and a flat earth.


you have a very narrow mind and simply repeat governmental narrative ..

there is nothing wrong with what you are doing yet you are exposed

as a governmental sycophant

yet fear not , it is very befitting for your limited intellect to look important

yet you are found wanting and are in lack

and so be it

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Reply #134 - Jul 24th, 2017 at 11:27pm
 
Government narrative? bwahahahaha!

Go back to your flat earth and other crap.
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