longweekend58 wrote on May 23^rd, 2017 at 5:39pm:

 

Because he won't be bullied into criticizing Putin - he must be impeached?

Russian agent???? Blackmailed??

Perhaps he is really an alien? 

You are a nobody living in a parochial city the other side of the World. Whats Trump to you? Why the hysterics? These questions should be aimed at the sane posters here.

Big Donger wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 9:57am:


Ultimatley it doesn't matter.

The republicans control the house, they would need to side, with enough numbers, with the Dems in order to get an impeachment off the ground.

Trump has done so very many things that would have been the end of the line for literally any other candidate or President.  Many have stumbled or fallen for much less, but the Republicans have stuck by him the whole time (by and large).  It would take something drastic, even in Trump terms, to get them offside enough to elevate Pence.

The longer Trump is in power, the lower the bar gets set, day in day out.  He's redefining "normal" to something truly terrible.

With this new and ever degrading "normal", to turn Trump who has such a fanatical support base into their (the Republicans) enemy would be a ballsy move.  He would convince his supporters that the Republican Party were their enemy because they supported his ousting, just like he's done with the mainstream media.

Now all it takes for accusations of Fake News, even if what is being reported is 100% factually accurate, is the manner in which it is reported.  The news can be true, but one little mistake, one opinion aired that Trump or his supporters don't like, it's immediately fake news.  Opinions they do like however, that's fine.  Case in point, Fox News.

Do you think the Republicans want that sort of unhinged fanatical that live in a Trump coloured world to be against them?

Trump was a dangerous man before he had the Oval and before he was practically untouchable.  Now it's just scary.

Big Donger wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:


To that, Trump really is a danger to both sides of politics, not along party lines, but more about the people.  There is no more exchange of ideas.  That's not how Trump ran his businesses, as you can plainly see given how few people do business with him more than once, and it's not how he is running his Administration.  You're either useful to him for his own goal, or you're not.  End.

It doesn't matter if you're good at your role, a leader in the field.  If you're not Team Trump, you might as well be Hillary Clinton.

Those lucky enough to come out the other side no worse off than going in (business or politics) can at least use his name (for better or worse) but that isn't a long list.  And if things keep going the way they are, eventually it will reach a critical mass and the Trump name will be worth bugger all.

I just hope what ever damage is done by this point is reversible.

They who hole the Oval represent the people.  They should be an example of something to strive for.  Children look up to the President and regular people honour them.

Even ignoring policy or Trump's past, his actions as President are far from worth of the office he holds. 

He's a disgrace.

I like the odds of him being out of the White House by Christmas.  The odds are in reality terrible and it's unlikely to happen, but for the sake of, well everyone, even Trump's supporters, some may say especially them, he really needs to go.

As for the FBI or Special Investigators, Trump's supporters have made their mind up.  Trump has done nothing wrong.  He has convinced the faithful that a hint of scandal will bring down his opponents but when it comes to him, actual evidence of his wrong doing can't be trusted, no matter the source.

They even question video evidence of his actual quotes.  Doesn't happen often, but in the shadow of that, I really have no words.  I don't know what to say to it.

Show someone a video of Trump mocking the disabled reporter, "Oh that's not what he meant", "It was taken out of context" or worse "Fake News".  What reality do they live in?

These are the people I worry for the most.  When the penny drops, where will they be left to go?

Big Donger wrote on May 24^th, 2017 at 12:17pm:


If a President did - then yes.

However there is NO PROOF!

However there is a bunch Washington insiders panicking over what Trump may do next - thinking that the best defense is offence using any method possible. Eg Russian so called interference or Trump impeachment. Their necks are starting to feel the rope.

The truth is that there is a lot going on that is not reported. Who knew that there was a Grand Jury being held for Anthony Wiener at the time?

I can live with the demands of proof for a justification of innocent until proven guilty, but not as an excuse to stop investigations.

Also, it would have been nice if Clinton was given the same treatment, but alas, the hint of anything resulted in chants of "lock her up" even when investigations had shown there was no wrongdoing.

Proof is needed to hold Trump to account but no proof will ever be accepted as valid by his apologists, yet the mere accusation is enough for his opponents to be considered unfit for office and immediately guilty.

Welcome to modern American Politics.

Big Donger wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 11:19am:


Are you sure?  She was guilty and continues to be even when proven otherwise according to Trump and his supporters.  It's hardly the same.  In contrast, we can't even hold Trump to account for mocking a disabled reporter for his disability when there is clear video evidence of it because it's a beat up or "Fake News"?

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Sure, and I don't want the same treatment for Trump that Clinton got.  He can be investigated and questions should be asked, but unlike he and his supporters attacks on Clinton, he shouldn't be considered guilty until he actually is found to be so.

But the calls to halt the investigations because "no other president has faced the same scrutiny as him" (which is bullshit by the way) and it's 'just a witch hunt' need to stop, especially by those who required no evidence to attack his opponents.

They can't have it both ways.

Big Donger wrote on May 25^th, 2017 at 11:33am:


Trump has been able to operate pretty much without impunity in his former life because he can and did sue anyone and everyone as a form of intimidation and even a standard negotiating tactic if things didn't go his way and with that I'm sure came the required greasing of palms, but he seems to be finding it difficult to leave that world behind.

Let's not forget, "When you're a star, they let you do it."

It's no wonder he finds the role of President to be much harder than his previous life and he may legitimately think he's being unfairly targeted by the media but that's only because he can no longer be an incredibly litigious cry baby anymore and there are rules and this pesky little thing called The Constitution that he has to abide by.  He doesn't seem like the type who likes to be told what to do,

I almost feel sorry for him but this bubble he's been living in must pop at some point.  Depending on the type of man he is it could go one of two ways.  Unfortunately we know how thin skinned he is so we know which way it'll go. 

It won't be used as a sobering realisation that he has to up his game to live up to the standard he thinks he's at but instead he'll just double down and attack his critics even further.

Lieberman might be Trump's preferred choice from some of what I've read, but surely there are the obvious conflicts of interest with he and his firms ties to Trump, especially while there are active investigations against Trump that get in the way of his appointment?