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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #60 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:53am lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:51am: Emma wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 2:04am: Glad I'm not a polar bear. Why, their numbers are increasing? Are they? The polar bear population is shifting towards Canada but whether it is actually increasing is far from certain.
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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #61 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:00pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Emma wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 2:04am:

Glad I'm not a polar bear.

Why, their numbers are increasing?

Are they? The polar bear population is shifting towards Canada but whether it is actually increasing is far from certain.

Polar bears are probably evolving to increase their tolerance of warmer temperatures in response to climate change.

If Polar Bear numbers are increasing, this is probably due to an increase in their food supply, fish. It is speculated that fish are moving further North and South, seeking cooler water, in response to rising sea temperatures.

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Reply #62 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:02pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Emma wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 2:04am:

Glad I'm not a polar bear.

Why, their numbers are increasing?

Are they? The polar bear population is shifting towards Canada but whether it is actually increasing is far from certain.

Moving towards Canada? Maybe that is why they are called POLAR bears. Must be sick and tired of the warm Maine weather. Grin

"The polar bear is found in the Arctic Circle and adjacent land masses as far south as Newfoundland."

Source: wiki.

Newfoundland is a part of Canada. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #63 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:08pm The Arctic is more than just Canada. That seems to come as a surprise to Lees but there you go. The bears are drifting towards the Canadian Arctic.
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Reply #64 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:32pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

The Arctic is more than just Canada. That seems to come as a surprise to Lees but there you go. The bears are drifting towards the Canadian Arctic.

Oh dear. You have had to change your stance. Now moving further north in Canada instead of jus escaping Trump and moving to Canada.

"Heavy sea ice off Newfoundland and southern Labrador has been an issue for months: it brought record-breaking numbers of polar bear visitors onshore in early March and April and since then has hampered the efforts of fisherman to get out to sea."

https://polarbearscience.com/tag/newfoundland/

Moving further North or moving South or merely moving around?

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Reply #65 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:34pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 12:00pm:

If Polar Bear numbers are increasing, this is probably due to an increase in their food supply, fish. It is speculated that fish are moving further North and South, seeking cooler water, in response to rising sea temperatures.

Yep. Fish moving further South to find cooler water, in the Northern hemisphere. Wink

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #66 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:37pm Polar bears are intelligent animals. Some are moving to land and rivers and eating fish, acting more like grizzly bears. The ones that stay in the Arctic are drifting to the part of the Arctic near/on Canada.
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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #67 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:38pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:53am:

lee wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Emma wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 2:04am:

Glad I'm not a polar bear.

Why, their numbers are increasing?

Are they? The polar bear population is shifting towards Canada but whether it is actually increasing is far from certain.

Oh no you know better I posted figures from the Official Authority that counts such things.... YOU denied them. Cheesy

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #68 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:42pm No, we said the uncertainty of the census is pretty high.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #69 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:47pm I'm pretty sure you denied it.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #70 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:49pm Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 9:12pm: Factoid... according to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature, the polar bear population stands between 20 and 31,000, the highest it has been for the past 50 years.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #71 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:51pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 25^th, 2017 at 7:30pm: roach obviously has no idea of sampling, uncertainty and so on. looks like denial to me... Oh and I know more about them than you do monk I used to do physics.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #72 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:52pm I hate to do a Lees, but. . .error bars or uncertainty figures there roach?
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21667 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #73 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 8:25pm Isn't it amazing. JM is using error bars and uncertainty, when he is so sure of everything.
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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #74 - Jun 27^th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:37pm:

Polar bears are intelligent animals. Some are moving to land and rivers and eating fish, acting more like grizzly bears.

The ones that stay in the Arctic are drifting to the part of the Arctic near/on Canada.

Gave they got their travel docs. Gotta keep an eye on those Siberians. Grin

Of course you have a peer-reviewed paper or something other than the Garudian to support your contention. Wink

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