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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #30 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am Hey... looky, looky.... Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas
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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #31 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:56am

Jovial Monk wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

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The new boss of the Australian Energy Market Commission has described an emissions intensity scheme, currently ruled out by the Turnbull government, as the most effective policy for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

The Coalition is becoming more and more isolated on this.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/emissions-intensity-scheme...

This is from Saturday—been busy.

Something will have to be done, but obviously not by the Libs. Hopefully the stupid Greens can’t stuff this scheme up!

Why does our 1% contribution make a fkken rats arse bit of difference in the minds of enviro-loons?

Australia, we are environmentally, economically, militarily and politically irrelevant in the world today.

So what's with the fkken hysteria?

It's fkken insane.

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Reply #32 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:25pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:56am:

Jovial Monk wrote on May 29^th, 2017 at 8:10pm:

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The new boss of the Australian Energy Market Commission has described an emissions intensity scheme, currently ruled out by the Turnbull government, as the most effective policy for cutting greenhouse gas emissions.

The Coalition is becoming more and more isolated on this.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/emissions-intensity-scheme...

This is from Saturday—been busy.

Something will have to be done, but obviously not by the Libs. Hopefully the stupid Greens can’t stuff this scheme up!

Why does our 1% contribution make a fkken rats arse bit of difference in the minds of enviro-loons?

Australia, we are environmentally, economically, militarily and politically irrelevant in the world today.

So what's with the fkken hysteria?

It's fkken insane.

That's why they always give us the per capita statistic.

Cause if most people knew its 1% they would all say the same...... Roll Eyes

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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #33 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:27pm Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am: Hey... looky, looky.... https://noczone-fvdefpncfaxtmfnyjx.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/8c3... Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas Again the media makes people think taxing the free air we breath will get rid of those chimney stacks.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6492 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #34 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:29pm I think we better adapt to a changing world whatever is happening.
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Ajax Gold Member Offline CO2 has never controlled temperature on Earth Posts: 11070 Australia Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #35 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:32pm miketrees wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:29pm: I think we better adapt to a changing world whatever is happening. I agree, the Earth's weather has always changed as our history shows and it has nothing to do with man made CO2.
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Reply #36 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:42pm

I agree, the Earth's weather has always changed as our history shows and it has nothing to do with man made CO2.

I am not saying that 100%

Just even if it is manmade,,, we wont stop it,,, be ready for change.

There is a theory that climate change brought the primates out of the trees and onto the savanna, eventually driving our evolution.
Sudden climate change (with no time to adapt) will probably wipe out certain sections of the human race.

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Reply #37 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:57pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

LOL
Sorry Monkeyboy, but you are funny, not as funny as Choo-choo, but you are getting there.
Got any more colourful piccies?

This is colourful too...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tb0lU7SbvKE/SZjyk9g6ACI/AAAAAAAAASY/XEfNlhCmLVk/s400/g...

Hey Grendel, have you ever heard of the carbon cycle?
No I didn't think so

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Reply #38 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:02pm

miketrees wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

I agree, the Earth's weather has always changed as our history shows and it has nothing to do with man made CO2.

I am not saying that 100%

Just even if it is manmade,,, we wont stop it,,, be ready for change.

There is a theory that climate change brought the primates out of the trees and onto the savanna, eventually driving our evolution.
Sudden climate change (with no time to adapt) will probably wipe out certain sections of the human race.

If the sun experiences a bit of uneven hydrogen/helium burn of and gets a bit of flatulence the extra heat we would experience would be enough to throw up more CO2 from the natural resources than man could ever send up into the atmosphere even if we burned fossil fuels for thousands of years.

The crux is we could spend trillions of dollars to make the oligarchy rich as if they weren't rich enough, only to have the sun fart once and any if any gains from trillions of dollars of taxation for CO2 emissions have been gained they will all be flushed down the dunny in an instant.

That's how futile this whole cause is.

Natural CO2 eclipses anything man can muster.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21563 Gender:	Re: Action on AGW, is it enough? Reply #39 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:04pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:57pm: have you ever heard of the carbon cycle? Yep. Now tell us about the greening of the planet due to CO2. See CSIRO. Tell us what that does for the carbon cycle. You do know what a cycle is? Or perhaps more relevantly what cycles are? Cycles on different time scales?
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Reply #40 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:08pm

Ajax wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Hey... looky, looky....

https://noczone-fvdefpncfaxtmfnyjx.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/8c3...

Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas

Again the media makes people think taxing the free air we breath will get rid of those chimney stacks.

Almost without fail the ABC, as background to every climate change story, (and they have many), we have smoking stacks... how dishonest of them pushing their agenda in that way.

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Reply #41 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

LOL
Sorry Monkeyboy, but you are funny, not as funny as Choo-choo, but you are getting there.
Got any more colourful piccies?

This is colourful too...

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:57pm:

Hey Grendel, have you ever heard of the carbon cycle?
No I didn't think so

Yes I think I first studied it in Primary School.... Grin

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Reply #42 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:13pm

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:08pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Hey... looky, looky....

https://noczone-fvdefpncfaxtmfnyjx.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/8c3...

Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas

Again the media makes people think taxing the free air we breath will get rid of those chimney stacks.

Almost without fail the ABC, as background to every climate change story, (and they have many), we have smoking stacks... how dishonest of them pushing their agenda in that way.

Are you saying that those stacks don't have any CO2 coming out of them?
If not, how can you tell given that you have already stated that CO2 is odourless and colourless?

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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #43 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:17pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:08pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Hey... looky, looky....

https://noczone-fvdefpncfaxtmfnyjx.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/8c3...

Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas

Again the media makes people think taxing the free air we breath will get rid of those chimney stacks.

Almost without fail the ABC, as background to every climate change story, (and they have many), we have smoking stacks... how dishonest of them pushing their agenda in that way.

Are you saying that those stacks don't have any CO2 coming out of them?
If not, how can you tell given that you have already stated that CO2 is odourless and colourless?

Nope... did I say that?
Nope.
I'm saying the ABC is dishonest.

Oh and here ya go....

Knock yourself out learning something.

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Re: Action on AGW, is it enough?
Reply #44 - Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 1:08pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 12:27pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 18^th, 2017 at 11:51am:

Hey... looky, looky....

https://noczone-fvdefpncfaxtmfnyjx.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/8c3...

Not CO2 which is an odourless colourless gas

Again the media makes people think taxing the free air we breath will get rid of those chimney stacks.

Almost without fail the ABC, as background to every climate change story, (and they have many), we have smoking stacks... how dishonest of them pushing their agenda in that way.

Are you saying that those stacks don't have any CO2 coming out of them?
If not, how can you tell given that you have already stated that CO2 is odourless and colourless?

Most of what's coming out of those stacks in the photo is steam, water vapour condensing when its rapidly cooled by the atmosphere, there maybe some traces of CO2 but the majority is steam.

BTW don't you know that CO2 is odourless and colourless.

In other words invisible to the naked eye.

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