rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 11:50pm:


Open carry is different from concealed carry.

The states that don't allow open carry like California and Illinois have much higher firearm homicide rates than those that do.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States

51% of the murders in the USA come from just 2% of the Counties.
zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-01/51-murders-us-come-just-2-counties

The firearm homicide rate has declined by 49% since the early 1990's the only real change to gun laws was allowing concealed carry.

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 11:46pm:


When people mention firearm suicides it shows they don't care about those who kill themselves by other methods, hanging has become our most common method for suicide yet no gun grabber will ever mention that.

I knew Phil Bolger he killed himself with his pistol, he made the decision to do this because previous generations of his family became senile and he didn't want to end up like them, would you prefer he hung himself instead of using a gun?
Is this the type of suicide you wish to prevent?
duckworksmagazine.com/09/reports/bolger/index.htm

Funny how some people are all for assisted suicide, as long as they don't use a gun.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 12:14am:
Lets see the stats I asked for first, then i will destroy you on this as well.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 12:17am:
I didnt ask for stats on homicide, that was the whole point. Stats on suicide and accidental deaths thanks.

Big Donger wrote on May 10^th, 2017 at 12:43am:
No need to 'take" anyone anywhere. got a coherent arguement yet?

Bobby. wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 11:51pm:



bobby,

And i'd rather live in a society, where violent criminals [and persistent 'repeat offender' criminals] were permanently removed from society.

'permanently removed from society' = = imprisoned





'I'd rather have our laws than the USA laws'

bobby,

Australia today, is not a safe society for law-abiding citizens.

And, even though firearm laws in Australia restrict the ownership of firearms [much much more than in the USA],          .....many criminals here in Australia are still able to easily obtain firearms, and use them, during the commission of violent crimes.



bobby,

Forget about firearm laws, yer goose.

Our society would be much, much safer,          if we as a society were willing to permanently remove violent criminals [and persistent 'repeat offender' criminals] from society.



Just one glaring example of OUR own failing to do what is right;

That 'piece of work' that abducted, raped and murdered Jill Meagher.

That man, should not have been free, and walking on our streets.

We [collectively] were responsible for the abduction, rape and murder of Jill Meagher.

rhino wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 11:55pm:


Thats a unrealistic fear you have. Australia was once one the the safest countries on Earth. Freedom increases personal responsibility and in the case of someone who could be carrying a gun - manners!

Home break-ins and robberies are almost non-existent here. Why? Because there is more guns than people.

I think that if Australians want to possess a gun they should be able to. Providing they complete a course in the safe use of them as part of their license.

Australia is a ripe peach for envious and overcrowded neighbors to the North. Having a trained and armed population is a huge deterrent for invaders.

Do you want to be always "wards of the State" or take some responsibility.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 9^th, 2017 at 10:49pm:




And if the guns had been restricted, there would not been any need to have shot him since he would have been an active puncher