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Reply #600 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 1:14pm
 
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Yep. We can see how scary it is. Look at that uptick in the ice.

Just bringing it to the front again. Wink
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Reply #601 - Aug 22nd, 2017 at 11:59pm
 
Of course, the orderly room corporal is posting a diagram of the mass balance of the surface of the icesheet. This is not the total ice balance, Greenland lost a lot of ice at sea levels from glaciers calving.
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Reply #602 - Aug 23rd, 2017 at 12:00am
 
Anyway, let us look at the state of Arctic ice:

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The Arctic sea ice extent is nearly as bad as that in the year 2012:
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And Greenland:
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Oh yeah, you can see we are in an Ice Age  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Bringing this to the front again.

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Reply #603 - Aug 23rd, 2017 at 10:18pm
 
Why?
Your repetition is irrelevant and boring.
You need to start paying attention to what other people post here instead of this crap behaviour where you dismiss out of hand, ignore all points and repost shyte.
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Reply #604 - Aug 23rd, 2017 at 10:30pm
 
Neither you nor Lees post anything interesting. Lees just posts to cover up good posts.

So I bring them to the front again so other members can have a read of papers, facts etc.
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Reply #605 - Aug 23rd, 2017 at 11:00pm
 
No you bring them forward because you cant accept what you've been told. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #606 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:39am
 
Anyway, let us look at the state of Arctic ice:

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The Arctic sea ice extent is nearly as bad as that in the year 2012:
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And Greenland:
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Oh yeah, you can see we are in an Ice Age  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Bringing this to the front again.


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Reply #607 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:46am
 
How are Greenland, West Antarctica and East Antarctica ice sheets going?

A scientist talks about ice sheets, global temperature increases and glaciers giving way. Video is about 10 minutes long, worth watching:



More details: https://robertscribbler.com/2017/08/18/the-present-threat-to-coastal-cities-from...

Thanks to DRAH for finding this and sending me the links. The bit about East Antarctica was a bit worrying.

It is now no longer some future catastrophe of flooding of coastal areas: a person now living will experience it: the flooding, loss of coastal agriculture and infrastructure, the refugees.


Very worth watching.
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Reply #608 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 1:02am
 
It's good ... keep on doing the good job, and fighting the good fight.

JM?  We will all know this truth, in time.

It is a worthwhile effort to try and awaken people to their peril. Guaranteed the government wont. Sad
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Reply #609 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 1:05am
 
Watch the video, very good, dry and factual presentation.
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Reply #610 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:12am
 
More videos:

Ice loss on Greenland:
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Reply #611 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 9:30am
 
Thanks for proving me 100% right about you yet again...  you need to seek help with that

W
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Reply #612 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 10:01am
 
We see those that do not want to know. Cowards I call them.

The world has warmed so much that the stability, even the existence, of the big ice sheets is decreasing. Glaciers in Greenland and West Antarctica that have retreated kilometres inland.

In the first video the scientist who has been studying the retreat of the glaciers and ice sheets says that it is no longer in the lifetime of generations ahead, the collapse of the icesheets is in the lifetime of people living now.

In other words: it is not just your grandkids you have to be concerned about, or your kids. It is YOU that will experience major sea level rises due to collapse of the icesheets.

Now, this is as alarmist as I have ever written and they are not my words but those of a scientist who has spent decades studying the icesheets.

Mankind, Homo sapiens, “Wise Man” is the only animal I know that poops in its own nest. I guess in the past man could always move on to new fields, leaving nature to clean up its mess. We can’t really do that anymore. I think it is time we grew up and stopped fouling the only planet we have.
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Reply #613 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 12:51pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 10:01am:
The world has warmed so much that the stability, even the existence, of the big ice sheets is decreasing. Glaciers in Greenland and West Antarctica that have retreated kilometres inland.


Yep. Pity the video stopped at 201 and missed the big recovery in 2017 in Geenland. Wink

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Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 24th, 2017 at 2:12am:
Ice loss on Greenland:



Oh. GRACE satellite which showed Antarctica melting while it was gaining ice. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #614 - Aug 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm
 
Robert Scribbler is not the scientist in the video.

Did the scientist stop in 201? BC or AD?  Wink

The icemelt on Greenland surface has been pretty close to median and we know iceloss at sealevel was pretty heavy this year.

See the average figure for Greenland iceloss? 281 Gtons wasn’t it?

See all those glaciers retreating? The Jocobshavn Isbrae glacier on Greenland?

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We have assembled an 18-year velocity record for Jakobshavn Isbrae, Greenland.
From a 1985 speed of -7000 dyr, the glacier had slowed by -1000 dyr in 1992,
which coincided with independently observed thickening in the early 1990s’. The
glacier then sped up by -4000 dyr between 1997 and 2000, during which time other
measurements show rapid thinning’. From 2000 to 2003, the glacier’s floating ice
tongue almost entirely disintegrated, as speed increased to 12,600 dyr. If the
retreat of the ice tongue caused the acceleration, then similar losses of floating ice
tongues since the Little Ice Age may explain the current rapid thinning observed
for many of Greenland’s outlet glaciers.

Draining -6.5% of the ice sheet’s area, Jakobshavn Isbrae is Greenland’s largest
outlet glacier. Because of its contribution to the Greenland Ice Sheet’s mass balance, an
airborne laser altimeter has surveyed this glacier repeatedly since 1991. When many
other glaciers were thinning, these surveys revealed that Jakobshavn Isbra: thickened
substantially from 1991 to 1997 at elevations less than 1100 m. After 1997, the glacier
began thinning rapidly with peak rates of - 15 dyr’.


It retreated in 10 years as much as it had retreated in the previous 100 years.

I also noticed the video spoke of East Antarctic icesheet—not previously thought of as retreating. Hmmm.
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