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Reply #465 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Yeah, the raw data makes AGW look even worse!



Got a reference for that?

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Reply #466 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:19pm
 
As I showed in https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/the-australian-temperature-record-p
art-1-queensland/

the HQ series has some inherent problems:

    It is based on data that has been subjectively and manually adjusted.
    It makes no allowance for Urban Heat island (UHI) effects.
    In Queensland, it produces a trend in mean temperatures that is 0.2 degrees Celsius greater than the raw data does.

Now, how many HQ stations were used to build the Northern Territory’s climate record?  2.  That’s right, TWO.  Alice Springs Airport and Tennant Creek Airport.  Darwin isn’t used because it is urban.

These two climate records, and the thermometers that produce them, are the most powerful in the nation.   Here’s a graph showing the area of each State per HQ climate site.
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[url]https://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/the-australian-temperature-record-p
art-2-northern-territory/
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Reply #467 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:23pm
 
No allowance for UHI effect.

Why do I not believe that?

It is garbage, that is why!
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Reply #468 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:24pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
And???


HOMOGENISATION = FUDGING
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Reply #469 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm
 
If the BuMet had not homogenised—it would have shown AGW to be worse than it is!

Poor pathetic little AGW deniers, the lengths they have to go to  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #470 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:32pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
If the BuMet had not homogenised—it would have shown AGW to be worse than it is!



Lost your reference I see. Smiley

"14.
How does the urban heat island effect
impact the climate data?
The urban heat island effect can increase surface-
air temperature at urban locations. While studies
have found the effect has minimal impact on
global long-term temperature trends, urban sites
are not included in the Bureau’s assessments of
temperature trends across Australia"

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/acorn-sat/documents/ACORN-SAT_TAF_Short_FAQ...
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Reply #471 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:37pm
 
I was talking about homogenisation.

Learn to love a world without beef or wheat.
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Reply #472 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:41pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:37pm:
I was talking about homogenisation.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
If the BuMet had not homogenised—it would have shown AGW to be worse than it is!


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 6:55pm:
Yeah, the raw data makes AGW look even worse!


You were talking AGW as usual.
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Reply #473 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm
 
That would be a NO! Lees. I was talking homogenisation and mentioned that without it the apparent AGW would look worse.

You just can’t help yourself telling lies, can you?
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Reply #474 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
That would be a NO!


It would be a yes.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
I was talking homogenisation and mentioned that without it the apparent AGW would look worse.



And you still haven't come up with a reference for your assertion. Funny that. Wink
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Reply #475 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:49pm
 
A few posts up in the thread.
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Reply #476 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:58pm
 
...

"In the above chart I’m only showing the temperatures from 1895, even though they were measured from 1882, because I’ve excluded the early years when measurements were not recorded in a Stevenson screen. So, I’m only showing temperatures recorded from recognized official standard equipment."

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So Stevenson Screen - tick
Step Change on move of station to Airport - tick

So why the variation to original Post Office data?

And homogenisation makes warming look ...? worse/better?
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Reply #477 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 8:01pm
 
Wow, obsessive much?
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Reply #478 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 8:03pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 8:01pm:
Wow, obsessive much?


Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 6th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
A few posts up in the thread.


Only when you continue to lie, even a few pages upthread. Wink
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Reply #479 - Aug 6th, 2017 at 8:40pm
 
You are the one lying, so scared of AGW.

Why? If you are scared of it then call for action against it.

Too scared for that, guess you want Daddy to make it go away?
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